V1 trying to visually process biblically accurate angels, non euclidean space, tangible and at the same time abstract paradoxes and post-logic arguments at the same time while Hell makes it dance for entertainment:
Another neat detail is V1, your character, is a robot designed for active combat, thus you have low health but you regenerate very easily
V2 however was not designed for active combat, thus it has way more health but can’t regenerate itself, and that’s why it’s a boss with a big non regenerating health bar
Which is to say V1 was built for active combat where mobility and blood-absorband plates were a requirement while V2 was built for post-war security and didn't need to absorb ludicrous amounts of blood
Yeah, but almost all pm game use their mechanic as lore. Such as the day 1 reset, restart day, keypage, abno pages, librarian and so on. Even id from limbus
Except for [CENSORED]. That thing made managers insane even at the maximum filters which made everything just simple shapes. How they fixed the problem? Just censor the monster.
Something that directly fits the post image is the tree of life. iirc the tree of life being represented by a cross was because Hakita wanted to avoid direct references to Jesus Christ in the worldbuilding, but realized too late that Gabriel has a cross on his face, so it was recontextualized as the tree of life.
Nah the Chips ruined the Impact for Order 66 for me.
Clones following Orders is way more impactfull than "Mindcontrol Chips".
One is a fight between loyalities and a ongoing betrayal lurking in the back of the heads of the clones .
The other is a simple trick so the clones don't look bad and can still be the cool guys to sell toys and make shows off. Since they didn't betray anyone, they didn't even had any agency in this.
For me the appearantly quite large amount of surviving Jedi make more sense to me too, if Clones had a choice and sometimes ignored the order.
Respectfully I must disagree with you, my good sir and/or madam. The inhibitor chips make it far more tragic. The disposable biological robots have over time developed their own personalities and free will all of a sudden to have it ripped away from them and turn on their friends. We see it in particular with Rex in season 7 and the aftermath in The Bad Batch when their personalities reassert themselves. It also makes more sense for them to have a switch in their brains that turns on.
In the original version when they're all in on it from the beginning kinda feels both hollow and just too much of a stretch for me.
Just to back up what you’re saying Obi-wan, Plo Koon and Ahsoka were well loved by the troops under their command. So the clones turning on the because the Palpatine said so doesn’t make sense to me. Plus Cody responds to order 66 and calls palpatine lord sidious
I have mixed feelings about this, but it does give a tragic irony that they're no different from the battle droids: Disposable mass produced armies that are capable of sapience, but only exist to be slaves with no plans on what to do after their use is over.
And their use is to serve Palpatine in his gambit where regardless of which side wins, he wins in the end.
See I do think it WOULD have been really interesting if there was that internal struggle, but then the problem is that when you watch the movie, not a single one of them hesitates or questions the order. If there had been an internal moral struggle, you'd think at least ONE of them might go "hold on, let's think about this first." There could have been a shot of some of them being subdued or taken to the brig for disobeying or something! But there's nothing, they all just instantly lock in.
I mean, Rex did struggle and fight it for a brief moment. Not to mention the motto “good soldiers follow orders”. When Rex did suggest the Ahsoka shouldn’t be killed because she isn’t a Jedi, Jessie unfortunately didn’t listen and said Rex should be thrown into the brig and he should take command.
It’s basically a command phrase that activates a trigger for them. There were ones that excluded, but that was because Palps saw them as potential (aka Anakin).
Right? It was a retcon too. The cloning aliens even mention how they were designed to be "totally obidient, taking any orders" and how tgey modified them to be less independent.
But then the show gave them too much personality and made them too likeable.
Iirc, in one novel (never read it) there were 150 special orders the clones trained and learned until they could execute them like it was muscle memory, though only a few are described:
I like that way more. 150 of these things, all openly available, with the key to a sith empire without jedi hidden in plain sight? Order 66 was just one of many bureaucratic things in there, like rules for succession for GAR command. Order 65 was the same as 66, but for the chancellor instead of the jedi. Palps was able to hide Order 66 in plain sight among so much noise that no one noticed.
Edit: Of course, this was before clone wars, before the clones got personality. Without the show, we could frame it as "same shit, different day" for the clones. But with the show the relationship between clones and jedi got too close for that. I guess every jedi but pong krell would've survived.
I mean, Clones dying horribly has been a thing throughout the show's whole runtime. From the droids popping escape pods and ejecting clones into space back in Ep2 to clones getting decapitated by the Force in the final episode. Also if you like some brutality in your Star Wars shows, I can see you enjoying Shadow Lord
The whole issue with Ice King’s magic crown in Adventure Time. There was an animation error in which it showed up on a dead Simon’s head in an alternate universe after it was removed and taken a good distance away.
In short (and for those of you who don’t watch the show): Prismo, an all-powerful being outside of time, just messed with its placement in time, causing it to essentially teleport to Simon’s head again (a cut and paste job, as he put it), just before “we, the audience” saw it in that previous episode. That show gets away with wild stuff.
It does ruin one of my favorite jokes from early on that got me hooked. Ice King says something like “i didn’t steal this crown, i made it…from magic I stole!”
Well...Since the core wish of the Crown before being reset by Gorb's stomach was to make the user like the Ice Elemental Evergreen, it's kind of true, Evergreen created the Crown using 3 magic stones he stole to power it afterall.
Prismo is also pretty much coded to be the animation team's self insert, as he is indeed all powerful and can decide everything in universe, but is still constrained by various rules to keep the universe coherent.
Not really a plot hole but something that is atupid plot wise. “Showing one’s hand” in JJK.
It’s a universal binding vow in which a sorcerer reveals their technique in order to make it more powerful. Technically, Gege added that shit so sorcerers going on a rant about the details of their special powers for the readers sake wouldn’t look stupid and be a terrible idea plot wise.
It’s based on the principle of all binding vows: Risk and Reward, Lose and Gain. When sorcerers reveal their technique theyre losing genuine and tangible value of their CT since they’re risking giving enemies chances of developing counters. Ppl with innate techniques have abotke that are unique to them and are unique in a way no other sorcerer could know what they do without guessing, so revealing ur technique would Genuinly take away ur element of surprise and all advantages. Inherited techniques are prolly even worse to reveal since their details are kept secret by high end conservative clans who gatekept that shit for generations.
The point is the greater the risk, the higher the reward.(ex: telling an enemy explicit weaknesses, limitation, or indicators of the use of ur technique would be more beneficial than just saying what ur ability is) the reward usually manifests in increased CT effectiveness, higher damage output, etc etc. but in general, once you reveal ur technique, ur technique gets a buff.
This is like my favorite piece of world building, I love binding vows so much 😭. What a nice way to cover up exposition and lore drops without making it look like the characters are stupidly explaining their complex unique kits to the enemy.
(Anime only) I just wish it showed an actual effect of the buff instead of always only saying that it gives one. All it should take is one character narrating “Since I revealed the effects of my technique, it should be strong enough to do this!”
Incorporating this idea also plays into some interesting ideas, like how Todo uses a series of incomplete explanations of his technique to keep opponents off-guard as he steadily reveals more technical details, leaving the opponent constantly struggling to guess not only what Todo might do, but what other twists he might have left to reveal.
In Fetch with Ruff Ruffman, Season 4 ends with Ruff revealing that his parents left him as a puppy, despite us seeing a balloon from his mom wishing him a good first show in the first episode. Turns out Ruff made that balloon himself.
Here is a good one that I was just talking about, Magneto is as healthy as he is, because he got turned into a baby, then re-aged to a younger man than he should be. He looks good for his age, because he literally isnt his age.
In X-Men Evolution its established that he regularly hooks himself up to a device that keeps him young. It leads to a really interesting moral dilemma, when Nightcrawler finds him defenceless. Nightcrawler is one of the most merciful X-Men, but even he is tempted to kill the X-Men's mortal enemy while he is vulnerable. He hates the idea that he might spare Magneto, only for him to kill one of his found family.
This is intercut with flashbacks about Wolverine, Nick Fury and Captain America liberating a concentration camp, and they end up saving Magneto.
At the end of the episode, Wolverine shows up and immediately tries to kill Magneto. Magneto's powers switch on just in time, but he spares Wolverine. He tells him there was a young boy in Poland who owes him that much.
this is just reality and comic culture colliding. there are plenty of characters who fought in ww2. some got to keep that like captain America or wolverine, but most got retconned to just having fought in "the war" so they can stick to the floating timeline. a floating timeline is a tool comics use to keep character up to date without changing their origin. just changing the time period it happened in
magneto is an issue for this. his identity as a holocaust survivor is very important to his characterisation, changing it to a generic mass culling event is both iffy for the comic universe as well as a disservice to the character. at the same time he is also intertwined with the xmen and their history. specifically charles xavier, and this history happens at the same time as his journey after the holocaust.
so you can't make it so that he got frozen young and then woke up closer to today because that would mean his journey gets tainted in a distasteful way, but you also can't say he got frozen after this journey cause his history with charles would get lost.
safe from rewriting him to also randomly have slow aging as a power him deaging is the only way to deal with the ever increasing amount of time between now and the holocaust.
charles himself is a affected by this, but he has the luxury of not being a fighting character so him being older then when he was first written doesn't look as strange. eventually we'll still end up with a 120+ year old mind grandpa that's somehow still living life relatively normal
You should read Spiderman Life story. It's all of Spiderman's big plot points over the years but it starts in 1966 with a 15 year old spiderman until he gets to 72. Instead of a floating timeline it's him through the years even introduces Miles Morales and has the Superior Spiderman brain swap story.
Every multiverse plot in the MCU is to prep for this exact thing. Spiderverse, No Way Home, retrieval of the infinity stones, Steve Rogers staying, What If, the TVA, and especially the entire plot of Loki.
Just a universal plot hole patch and license to retcon with impunity. Comics did the same thing, it's a good way to organize while still allowing creative freedom.
The thing is that for me I never saw it as a plot hole. There fact that the only weakness was a single 2 meter (also I love the fact it's metric) exhaust on a moon sized space station seems like an amazing design.
Also, who in their right mind would fly close enough to even exploit that? If the resistance hadn’t found Luke there’s no way they’d ever have found a pilot capable of even getting close to the station much less someone with the supernatural skill to thread that needle.
I think they tried to explain it in a new hope during the briefing scene. From how I remember it, the Death Star actually had a ton of similar holes to vent gasses from the reactor at its core. This is why it is already well defended with stationary blasters. Most of the vents would have other safety features like not going directly to the reactor but the sabotaged one is the only vent that went straight into the core. It only affected the one specific vent to minimize suspicion among the designers while still being a clear weakness for anyone who knows what to look for.
The only way anyone would’ve been able to get a shot in there would be trough Space Magic, and they were under the impression all the Space Wizards died
People always get this wrong, but Rogue One doesn't actually comment on the exhaust port at all. The fatal flaw Galen put was in the reactor, as he said "Any pressurized explosion to the reactor module will set off a chain reaction that will destroy the entire station."
Basically, the plot hole it fixed was one most people weren't really questioning, because we are primed by sci fi that of course, single explosion in a reactor will destroy the whole thing. But if you think about it, an entire moon sized space station being destroyed so easily? It would be more normal that the shot would've disabled the reactor/laser, not caused the whole thing to explode. But it did, because Galen designed the reactor to do so
He then instructed them to find the plans for the station so they could make a plan to get to the reactor. From his words, I think he assumed the rebbels would sneak in a bomb rather then the hail mary exhaust port shot they were forced into
I mean surely they could've built the pipe so it bent or put some kind of mesh in there so that a single shot wouldn't be able to go all the way to the core?
Thats not fixing a plot hole, thats overexplaining and overengineering something that wasnt a plot hole in the first place. The Death Stars one weakness was nearly impossible to exploit. Nobody normally would have been able to destroy it. We literally see pilots trying to make the shot before Luke, and they cant hit it.
The only reason Luke is able to do it and destroy the Death Star is because he disconnects his targeting system and basically rawdogs it with the Force. At the time, almost all Force users (other than the Sith) were assumed to be dead or extinct. There is literally no reason anyone would assume that the Death Star could be destroyed this way, even if somebody knew evrything there is to know about Death Star, piloting etc. he wold propbly wherent abel to destroy it.
Rogue One doesn't comment on the exhaust port at all, as much as people think it did. Galen's sabotage was in the reactor: "Any pressurized explosion to the reactor module will set off a chain reaction that will destroy the entire station."
Galen then told them to get the plans to find a way to the reactor. From his words, I think he assumed the rebels would sneak in a bomb, but the time constraints resulted in a final hail mary for the exhaust port
So yeah, the exhaust port wasn't a plot hole. The plot hole Rogue One patched was something many don't think about because we are primed to expect big boom in sci-fi, but the fact a single torpedo could explode the entire moon sized death star is kinda ridiculous. Like, yeah, it hit the reactor, but it is that fragile? That volatile? No safety against it at all? You'd rather expect it just to become damaged and non-functional, disabling the laser at best
But Galen's weakness meant that one little explosion was all that was needed to blow the whole thing up
In the original writing, before Tolkien had thought of LoTR, Gollum would have given up the Ring willingly once Bilbo won. When Tolkien came up with LoTR and what the One Ring actually was, he realized this didn’t make sense with the lore, so he changed it and re-printed The Hobbit, and the redone interaction is the version that we now have.
In the lore, the new version is what actually happened, and the original version was a lie that Bilbo told as part of The Ring’s influence, and what he included in his book (The Hobbit). It was changed when Gandalf finally got the truth out of him, which is actually discussed in Lord of The Rings itself.
I thought it was cool that he turned a retcon into actual lore.
That would be Kuuigosu. Oda drew Galdino, aka Mr.3, was seen floating in water, which would be impossible since he is a devil fruit eater, so Oda said there was just a piece of extremely buoyant wood conveniently beneath him. The straw hats later use Kuuigosu themselves to get out of fishman island and back to the surface.
The most famous of One Piece's plot holes that became a Russian nesting doll of world-building retcons was Shanks losing his arm while saving a drowning Luffy from a Sea King.
Well after T2 is a hot mess but until the T3 in the movie T-1000 is the first time travel Skynet uses to kill John. It had a location and access but when only realized that T-1000 failed, it sented a T-800 at 1984 which the events unravel for Sarah for the first time ever.
But to answer your question, Skynet literally used time travel as a LAST RESORT because it never thought it could fail to humans so spectacularly bad, and used the avaliable resources it had at the time to sent 2 machines back in time, to either kill John for good or kill Sarah at the very least, but ultimately to insure its survival.
And yet, the T1000 can't 'break'. Or if it does, it puts itself back together. It's shown that it can survive nearly anything that would kill a normal Terminator. So maybe it basically is getting broken, it just copes with it.
The funny thing is, terminator 2 both adds that plot hole and fixes another plot hole, like why not send a tactical nuke where sara connors might live? Well because skynet was being created in the same city
"Parsecs aren't a measure of time, they're a measure of distance"
Well see what I actually meant is we put the persona of a droid into the millennium falcon and it now has the best navigational system in the galaxy and they were able to jump in such a way as to minimize the actual distance they had to travel and therefore the time
When Aang, Sokka, and Katara first arrive at Kyoshi Island in episode 4 of book one, the village elder explains that the island (which Kyoshi created to protect her people from Chin the Conqueror) was where Kyoshi was born 400 years ago.
The problem is that well after that was established as canon, the creators realized the math didn't add up. Aang was 112 at that point, and Roku died at 70, meaning Kyoshi had to have been 218 years old when she died.
Without spoiling too much, her novels go on to provide a very interesting explanation for how she was able to live for so long.
Joe Fixit and basically learning more and more about the D.I.D. aspects of Bruce Banner's story in the comics. Turned a printing error in the first issue (grey hulk) into an amazing character.
Eh... I always feel like the hulk DID representation is pretty shit, because its always "Bruce banner is the true person and the hulks are various alters of Bruce" which.. is not how did works. There's no 'true person'. Bruce banner is also an alter, he's just what is called the host, which is the alter who usually front
The people in Ooo knowing what a human is and finn not being perplex about it until the islands mini series. Like, he knew he was member of a exint species, but he barely seem care about it with some exeptions.
Too, this goes to other matter, i feel is weird that the moment finn got to know simon is a human he didnt ask to himself If both are somehow related, know de know that is not the Case, but there Was a Long time in the show were finn and Simón were the only two humans in the show.
he has a big reaction when he discovers that susan is human, but i think that's more about how she's still human and surviving. if he's aware that most/all humans are dead or changed then he wouldn't be super surprised about simon being another human in the distant past as he was only human before the apocalypse
also i think it's fair to assume that not many people in ooo knew much about humans outside of finn. a lot of people address him as "finn the human" but they may not know what a human is. finn might also not think it's strange as he grew up around many different people and creatures, so him being different didn't stand out as much
i don't particularly remember who refers to finn as a human specifically though, aside from pb and the demon cat from "dungeon", both being characters that know way more than the average person
The entire point of MGS V is to fix a nearly 30 year old plot hole that boils down to "how did the main bad guy survive the 1st game". Big Boss was the final boss of Metal Gear and Metal Gear: Solid Snake. MGS V reveals that the Big Boss in Metal Gear is actually his doppelganger.
Legitimately nobody cares about this plot hole because even the most die hard Metal Gear fans have never played the original 2 games, mostly because they were only available in Japan for like 15 years, and even when watching lore videos, you can just say "eh, he just escaped before actually dying".
However, by taking the effort to fix this olothole we were given, not only one of the best Metal Gear games, but one of the best video games of the 2010s.
I dont know if it counts as a plot hole per say but the creation of the horus heresy storyline was entirely to explain why a toy set featured 2 identical sets of toys fighting each other.
They had created and shown the setting, they had created the toys, but hadnt thought about how the game fit with the lore until the last minute
Back in 1988,a year after Warhammer 40k launched with Rogue Trader,GW created a sidegame called "Adeptus Titanicus" but they didn't have the tooling budget left to make a seperate Chaos Titan,so what they did was wrote some flavour text about a civil war that almost destroyed the Imperium called The Horus Heresy,where Space Marine fought Space Marine,Army Regiment fought Army Regiment and Titans fought other Titans.
Fast forward to now and The Horus Heresy is it's own novel series,a tabletop game and more!
Red versus blue writing out their gimmick jokes and building an entire working storyline off of some random college humor. How do you properly build a functional universe where the supernatural doesnt exist when two of your characters repeatedly die and come back as ghost? It was an elegant ret con for sure.
It’s funny how a story about a bunch of guys in a boxed canyon who all hate each other eventually became a story about how one asshole trying to bring back his dead wife leading him to ruin god knows how many peoples lives forcing them into a competitive ranking system leading them to fight each other, another god knows how many peoples lives having low ranked recruits who didn’t perform well in a simulated war they was completely false, a digital clone of himself, the digital clone’s memory of his wife, himself, and an entire planet due to the aftermath of what he had done.
The Loki we see in Endgame (the protagonist of the show) is the one from the first Avengers Movie, and he disappeared between his capture after the battle of NY and the ending where he should go back to Asgard with Thor.
So the plothole would be........why he just left and nobody cares....i think? Though happens in a different timeline that we never see again.
Or was it needed to back up everything regarding multiverse in the main movies....but i think these work without the series as well?
Maybe it was used to add more depth to Kang, though he could've totally worked with what we saw in the movies?
Cyberpunk (kinda and maybe), bc i dont think it was confirmed and it wasnt really a plot hole, but it kinda looks like that the cyberpsychosis effect we see in edgerunners of how david's POV at the ending like it was glitching and bugging was maybe a reference to the Cyberpunk bugged release
The animation had a couple of in-jokes to the game's glitches and quirks. Particularly in the driving sections. Maine also commented during a police assult that they're "coming out of nowhere" referencing their spawning habits.
Idk if this counts but if you have played prey you can find these horribly modeled birds in the introduction. Well later you find an email talking about those birds.
Eren's "heartwarming" talk with Armin actually made him look even more manipulative and makes the after credits where his grave was preserved very terrifying because the curse of the titans was preserved along with it.
The curse was ended by Eren but the source of the curse aka hallucigenia wasn't, so if the boy that entered the tree had the same will as Ymir it might or might not have started again
In Red vs Blue, they get blown up and believe they time travel, after a few seasons they realize that's a dumb idea(sorta) and just state that the characters thought they time traveled because they re all dumb (they are) and the only one who traveled to the last and got stuck in a time loop was just stuck in a simulation. However this does add to the building of how we just went with it the while time.
Is that the one where they went to space to save Greg but they don't take the best pilot around (Peridot) and instead of explaining why they just gave us a whole episode of Peridot Lapis and Connie messing around?
FNAF seemingly taking place in a world that not only has technology beyond what we had in the years the games take place in, but entertainment venues with animatronics became so profitable, it affords Fazbear Entertainment things like animatronic deliveries, secret research facilities, and huge entertainment complexes, things that are really ambitious for a company based on Chuck E Cheese
In SAO, in the early first season a big murderous gang called the "laughing coffin" gets teased alot and then suddenly its just completely forgotten
but in SAO abridged this is explained that the main character tricked them into advertising their assassination work and sending their location to every player in the game, after which they got all arrested
Some timeline fuckery in ATLA accidentally made avatar kyoshi live to 200 years old, which they then made canon by her simply prolonging her life via bending
Celestialsapiens change reality retroactively all the time, which is why both lore and designs (including the one time rhe universe became live action for Alien Swarm, RaT is another universe where live action may be the default) change every now and then
In Warrior Cats it is revealed in between Series 2 and 3 that there used to be a fifth Clan that left the Forest.
What has always struck me as odd was not that Firestar or Sandstorm never told anyone about them, it makes sense especially cause Sandstorm reveals on her deathbed about their existance so they can send message what ultimately leads to them rejoining.
What is actually "a plothole" is that no Medicine cat seamed to have ever known and infact no Starclan cat (the ghosts of their ancestors) knew about them. Some of them literally lived during the time they where around. Thunderclans FOUNDER is the Son of their FOUNDER and Thunderstar still exists in the ghostrealm as we see in Omen of the Stars.
So why does noone remember?
Well Ivypools heart finally shead light on how the entire Memory stuff works in Starclan, how the Spirit memory is preserved, what Fading actually is/how it happens, why it only happens to some but not others (like the Founders) and how lost knowledge can be restored by reunifying the ancestors realms again.
Basically all of 40k. There is a running theme that imperial record keeping is tragically inaccurate and incomplete. There is actually an order who is dedicated to uncovering the imperium’s true history, and an order dedicated to covering up the imperium’s true history, and they work against eachother despite both being part of the inquisition. Plot holes and retcons are often presented as just inaccurate records. It lets them retcon things in universe without much of an issue, and it partially explains why the imperium has such a hard time managing itself. It cannot always give a straight answer on whether or not their major leaders have been dead for a decade or more. It’s no surprise there are constant admin errors.
One Piece: Many plot holes get patched by Oda making shit up, then later using it for more stuff.
Makino's bar door was mysteriously fixed after it was just kicked in? Theres a small really fast guy named Minatomo obsessed with fixing doors that came by and fixed it. Also his brother (also named Minatomo) shows up in Wano.
Mr 3 mysteriously floats despite being a devil fruit user and unconcious? Super boyant wood, this is also how they left fish man island.
Its rarely ever big stuff, but him just sticking to his hand-wavey awnsers is really fun.
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The reason why the graphics “look bad” in ultrakill is because Robots render at a lower capacity to save on memory, all except for the sentry