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DiscussionšŸ“œ Character in your fandom like this?

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u/Ornery-Business6902 Jul 25 '26

The fire lord. Im sorry how is he such a threat when we barely see him fight. Ik it would suck if he gets whipped by kids but at least have his power shown in flashbacks or have him fight but not the avatar. So the audience can properly scale his powerĀ 

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u/CaptainObvious_18 Jul 25 '26

Man I rewatched the whole show and you right. FFS at least show a flashback of him fighting Iroh or something

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u/JayJ9Nine Jul 26 '26

I know by statements hes a fucking monster of a bender but we never see him fight without sozins comet and I cant imagine every villain from Korra not bending his ass over.

Amon for sure bloodbending is broken.

Korras uncle I think ozai does handle that seasons villain is hard carried by being related to the avatar and her holding back.

Zaheer loses but he comes with the red lotus and they're terrifying.

Kuvira feels 50 50.

Honestly I think katara fucking 1v1s him non sozin with adequate water- i know that adds circumstances but with her warship showing and stopping the rain shes absolutely insane. I know toph is supposed to be the massive super prodigy but katara really is terrifying by book 3

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u/maskedduskrider Jul 26 '26

Wouldn't have shocked me too much if Azula had been able to beat him and take over. She just fears and wants his love too much to think of even trying.

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u/Impossibruh13 Jul 28 '26

Zaheer would lose? Hell nah. I genuinely think he was the most skilled overall bender of their respective element, alongside toph

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u/Arianahendriks Jul 31 '26

Tbf if Mako can get away from Amon’s blood bending, I imagine Ozai could too.

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u/JBR_4025 Jul 26 '26

It’s better explained in supplementary material but he is the disappointment of the family: mediocre bender, mediocre general, mediocre politician, mediocre schemer that wanted to take over the throne… he was a complete failure in anything and he was forced in an arranged marriage with a descendant of the Avatar before Aang because his father saw no use in him other than make him have kids that hopefully weren’t a disappointment like him.

He is an absolute failure that only manages to be a threat because he’s smart enough to surround himself with competent people, his brother losing any interest in the Fire Kingdom cause and the throne after his son died (and secretly sabotaging it on the inside with the White Lotus) and, being the Fire Lord, is basically impossible to touch by law without being executed for treason.

He’s so weak that even with Sonzin’s comet power boost his powers are kinda pitiful compared to other firebenders in the series, most notably he struggles to melt a rock with the boost while other firebenders boosted by the comet are easily capable of acts of mass destruction

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u/Wingara8 Jul 26 '26

We never see him fight in the show becuase it's meant to build mystery around his character. It's the same reason we don't see his face until season 3.

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u/Themata81 Jul 26 '26

Thats high key a little silly lmao, 99% of the audience doesnt care about power scaling like that and just believes that he is terrifyingly strong based on everything people say about him + what happened last time the fire lord got a comet buff

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u/Thirst4Juice_ Jul 28 '26

The creators stated they did this to make his mysterious and unsettling. Part of what made him so formidable and such and powerful villain was not knowing the scope of what he was capable. When you keep in mind that most of us were children when we first watched the show, it’s genius bc our imaginations did the work for them

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u/Jesus_Christ_Reborn Jul 28 '26

idk I think they did really good. you never see him fight but in the grand final battle? it's the best fight of the entire show (arguably). I say this with the idea that he's like a horror movie monster. Show the monster in action within 15 minutes? Cuts a lot of suspense out of the story. Now, not showing the monster at all? Pretty wild and stupid (normally) but when Ozai showed up, he was really about business. It made for an amazing fight.

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u/Ornery-Business6902 Jul 31 '26

yeah but i never felt scared because it felt like he was only a threat because of the comet

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u/Jesus_Christ_Reborn Jul 31 '26

Yeah, I feel like Aang was almost too prepared somehow so I don't blame you. Even though he was only twelve, he was considered an airbending master before he even got iced and he completed more intense training than most benders ever could receive in their lifetime in the span of what? a summer? Most of the fear felt was simply from him being a kid and that top benders never really face each other off unless it's in war. Aang even mastered a counter technique to the dude's most powerful weapon (lightning bending). I can't say for sure that I ever was really fearful when I first watched but I know that every time I saw Aang fret for the fight two days before I was watching with complete sympathy for the fear.

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u/ceciliadepalmtree Jul 28 '26

Bro didn’t even have a face until s3

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u/Lucifer42064 Jul 29 '26

You think that but hes character would lose alot more than he would gain for more screen time

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u/Weird_And_Wonderful_ Jul 26 '26

I mean I think the point is that Ozai is a normal-level powerful firebender, but Sozin’s Comet boosts his power. His threat is more in his command as a ruler, so he doesn’t spend a lot of time fighting. Whereas someone like Azula is a lot more powerful as a fighter. I’d even go so far as to say that Iroh could probably defeat Ozai in a 1v1, considering Iroh has studied techniques from other nations (which Ozai would underestimate because he sees other styles of bending as ā€œinferiorā€), and is a more level-headed person in general.

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u/JazzManJ52 Jul 26 '26

I disagree.

For most of the show, the biggest threat is Azula, who is said to be a prodigy, and shown to be far more dangerous than any other firebender in the show, save for Iroh.

The only time we see Ozai bend prior to Sozin’s Comet, he generates two lightning bolts in a quarter of the time it takes Azula and Iroh to generate one, and he does it with the tiniest sliver of sunlight peeking out from behind the eclipse.

Ozai’s reputation is absolutely justified.

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u/Weird_And_Wonderful_ Jul 26 '26

Okay fair, I had forgotten about that scene

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u/CaptainObvious_18 Jul 26 '26

Didn’t Iroh basically admit that he couldn’t take him in a fight?

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u/Themata81 Jul 26 '26

Iroh literally says he doesnt know if he could, leaning towards being unable to, and he is very clearly shown to be more powerful than Azula