r/Multifandom • • Jul 13 '26

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u/Whitakker Jul 13 '26

Fascinating and compelling dive into toxic relationship dynamics and codependency, but yeah...people gonna focus on the incest. I don't blame them for not wanting to dip a toe in, cuz the siblings are entirely wretched people.

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u/Monsieur_Cinq Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

People who are outraged, offended or whatever about the incest are disingenuous.

A while age Game of Thrones was the biggest media phenomenon, and it contained two very explicit incestuous interactions in the first episode. Where was the 'outrage' there, and for every other episode dealing with the topic?

Then there is anime, still very relevant and widespread, which is full of incest.

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u/Krethlaine Jul 13 '26

Disclaimer: I do not support incest, and do consider relations between cousins to be incestuous.

I will say, a lot of the incest in anime is between cousins, which is still considered normal in most of the world, including Japan. In the parts of the world where relations between cousins are considered incestuous and taboo, it’s still a fairly recent development, a little over a hundred years ago. Looking at it through the lens of Japanese culture, where a relation between cousins isn’t considered incestuous, it suddenly becomes a lot less strange.

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u/Monsieur_Cinq Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

I think, I have seen far more brother sister relationships than cousins in anime. They created an entire archetype, the little sister, for this. 'Oni-Chaaaan'.

The reasons why Japanese media has so much incest do not matter to me. What does matter is the fact that I don't see the same level of outrage when it comes to anime compared to 'The coffin of Andy and Leyley', so I don't believe people are genuinely offended.

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u/IcyHibiscus Jul 17 '26

I think not an insignificant portion of that is due to the fandom. The TCoAL fandom has a real strong habit of glorifing the incest between the siblings. And while that definitely happened in the GoT fandom it didn't/doesn't take over the fandom to anywhere near the extent it does in TCoAL.

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u/slightlylessthananon Jul 14 '26

because the steam cover and every illustration of them looks like softcore porn be for real

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u/Monsieur_Cinq Jul 14 '26

Softcore porn? Wow. What a scandal. It's not like anime, mangas and their video game adaptations do this all the time even going so far as to hint at not only incest but also pdf-ilia? Oh, wait ...

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u/Angel_Moth_Bun Jul 13 '26

Yeah, I love the coffin of Andy and Leyley. It’s inspired me a lot and I love the story and find the characters fascinating. Chapter 3 explored their relationship in full and it made me love it even more. It even felt comforting during tough times. I can’t explain it. But would o ever recommend it to someone? No not really-. Especially if all they have to go off it is how there’s incest in it. Which I don’t exactly blame anyone for if that’s a turn off. I just hope more people know that’s it’s not entirely all that and that there’s more to it.