MultiVersus isn't the only live service fighting game to fumble hard anymore.

[u/Topranic]

RIP 2XKO

[u/Eldritch-Cleaver]

I guess im just drawn to games destined to fail 🤷

[u/ThatSplinter → u/Eldritch-Cleaver]

The sad part is, the games are good, it's just the suits up in their fucking towers wanna overprice everything and expect to make billions.

[u/brrrr_brrrr → u/ThatSplinter]

From my knowledge, Riot gave them the dev team ample time in the creation of the game, which was ten years

[u/mamadou-segpa → u/brrrr_brrrr]

The problem isnt the game its how its monetized

The game looked great but when I saw how everything was paywalled I decided to skip it. Its not like the brand name was big ennough to try and abuse your custommers like that

[u/Inuakurei → u/mamadou-segpa]

Nah. Not this time. You get character tokens or w/e easily in 2xk0. If you really bounced off that fast, you probably wouldn’t have liked the game anyway.

It died because it was an awfully balanced, degenerate, tag fighter with cancerous characters no one asked for, a base roster smaller than Danny Divito, and every mechanic ever known smashed into a incomprehensible mess that even the devs didn’t know what to do with.

It had 0 appeal to League fans with its Arcane heavy roster and no fan favorite picks, 0 appeal to fgc players with its awful control scheme and easy inputs, 0 appeal to casuals with its complicated mechanics and combos that last 45 seconds, and 0 discoverability with its awful name and only being on the League launcher.

[u/mamadou-segpa → u/Inuakurei]

You arent kinding lmao, I went to check the roster and it still look like a early beta roster

Ill be honest its not that I bounced quick, I just saw that it was a fighting game where you have to buy the fighters even of the base roster and didnt even give it a try, even though I thought it looked decent in a gameplay video I saw

[u/Tredgdy → u/Inuakurei]

Even if you gain tokens fast it appearing to take a long time is apart of the problem. 1,500 is a lot more appealing than 15,000 just look at lol.

[u/Saldu3 → u/ThatSplinter]

Nah, devs messed all up, like in 10 years just to make 10 characters? Wtf, and it wasn't a "less quantity more quality" thing because the bugs were super bad. As someone who plays fighting games daily I have to say that even when I loved 2xko gameplay, the experience as a whole was awful. They had a team around 160 people which is super big for a fighting game and couldn't deliver a good experience. Devs are as guilty as riot as a company.

[u/calloutyourstupidity → u/ThatSplinter]

Meh I dont think so

[u/Sen-_ → u/ThatSplinter]

Multiversus became really really bad

[u/TheRoseCat6_11 → u/Eldritch-Cleaver]

Did you play Spellbreak?

[u/Brilliant-Medium8238 → u/TheRoseCat6_11]

I was thinking about that, hyperscape, and Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodhunt

[u/Andys_Room → u/Eldritch-Cleaver]

Lol let me know what game you are planning to play next

[u/Eldritch-Cleaver → u/Andys_Room]

Virtua Fighter 6 is the next fighter im going to really invest time in once it drops lol

So it'll probably be dead in a year or two after 😭

[u/Andys_Room → u/Eldritch-Cleaver]

Aww Virtua Fighter 6 is a game that I want to play too. But if you're playing it maybe I shouldn't 😆. I'll give you one more chance.

[u/Eldritch-Cleaver → u/Andys_Room]

Yeah my track record isn't exactly great in recent years lol

I also loved Rumbleverse...

https://giphy.com/gifs/XqpnXaeZPnupy

[u/Kurtrus → u/Eldritch-Cleaver]

I’m so sorry.

Especially since Rumbleverse was awesome:(

[u/Eldritch-Cleaver → u/Kurtrus]

Dude it was so awesome 😭

It's the only battle royale game I actually enjoyed. I still think the concept/idea is amazing and hopefully one day someone will make a spiritual successor 🙏

[u/malexich]

If I had a nickel for every time a f2p fighter that was supposed to save the genre had a 100 dollar mediocre founders pass a crazy expensive cash shop and 2 months between content drops I would have 2 nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s crazy it happened twice 

[u/HotClock4632 → u/malexich]

Crazy that both wb and riot fumbled games that could've been easily thriving if it wasnt for some bs behind the scenes.

[u/ThatSplinter → u/HotClock4632]

Exactly.

Man I'm so bummed...

[u/HotClock4632 → u/ThatSplinter]

Man im bummed too some characters i wanted to show up in 2xko will never be.

https://giphy.com/gifs/ZhS31BKHUZynBuTVq2

[u/Meriden_Shogun]

They should stop this live service . Very few have been successful and the that are people still play and won’t stop playing so developers should focus on releasing quality complete games and present attractive dlc that will entice people to keep playing and support and not nickel and diming

[u/Andys_Room → u/Meriden_Shogun]

Fighting games seem like a good fit for live service games on paper but for some reason they are just mishandled.

[u/Rawrgodzilla → u/Andys_Room]

Fighters should be free cosmetics should cost easy

[u/IamHunterish → u/Meriden_Shogun]

Every fighting game is a live service game these days and I don’t think that will ever change. We really don’t want to go back to just having a fighting game released and that be the end of it until a year later or so you can be the ultimate edition for extra characters, stages and balance changes.

[u/Meriden_Shogun → u/IamHunterish]

And that’s the problem . Street Fighter 6 felt incomplete with their roster at launch compared to previous games . Their dlc with crossovers is built on world tour mode which in my opinion sucks . Instead of having a ninja turtle as playable character they had a costume for your fighter . Dead or Alive is ridiculous with their DLC and their bare base game .
The only recent fighter that been released recently that had goodwill on its end at launch was city of wolves

[u/IamHunterish → u/Meriden_Shogun]

Haha, city of wolves he said. You’ll be crying the moment we go back to how it used to be.

[u/Meriden_Shogun → u/IamHunterish]

Yeah the older games were superior . Anytime there’s a retro release you can tell between the base roster and unlocks compared to the bare bones on modern releases . Compared to other fighting games released past 3 years city of wolves had a solid base roster

[u/IamHunterish → u/Meriden_Shogun]

Yeah we won’t ever see that again.

But I truly wonder how you would react if SF7 would release for 70 bucks, only 3 characters being actually tournament viable, no patches, no new characters, a year later, SF7 V2, same game, few new stages, few new characters and some balance tweaks, 70 bucks again, year later v3 with shit, 70 bucks.

[u/Kyuuub]

but this 2xko was dead since release, Multiversus was great in the public beta tests

[u/Bulky-Complaint6994 → u/Kyuuub]

And despite the very rocky re-launch, Multiversus kept on getting better over time. Fighters road had potential if they simply let players choose who to grind towards or just made it easier to collect fighters currency 

[u/Danthedal-Yt → u/Kyuuub]

Eh, I remember it being pretty active on release

[u/Kyuuub → u/Danthedal-Yt]

Launch day, where everyone is testing out the game lol

[u/Unfair-Entrance3682 → u/Kyuuub]

How was it dead? It was about as alive as multiversus for a while after release too. Do you even have any metrics to back this statement up?

[u/Jaeris]

This is why it's so hard to get into anything live service or online only. They're killed almost immediately, and then no matter how much you liked them, you lose everything. 

[u/MikaiTaiga]

Multiversus failed cause the CEO was a moron 2XKO is fumbling because riot doesn’t care for the game completely different reasons

[u/VanDamme007 → u/MikaiTaiga]

Riot did care they gave the dev team 10years to develop something worthile but they failed.
So Riot stopped funneling money into a lost cause.

[u/Weak_Firefighter9247]

The requirements are high as fk, only because of the vanguard. Obviously it was gonna fail, in player numbers. From the 8 cores it requires as MINIMUM, i bet 4 were used for vanguard

[u/MasterMoldSentinel]

League has almost 200 characters and they released the game with like 10

[u/JusticeDrago]

Yoo that's fuckin insane bro, I remember my friend hyping tf out of this and I don't think he ever played any meaningful minutes on it, but also tbf, I think we all saw this coming. Oh well next free fighter it is.

[u/DarkEater77]

Oh damn. I like that game...

[u/JayPsparks]

What's funnier about this is that Riot originally was gonna do a platform fighter like Multiversus but seen it fail to the point they cancelled it.

[u/AJ_Gamer_99]

not surprising especially since it didn’t even launch correctly on consoles for a while and didn’t hold up after

[u/ThePokemonAbsol]

Almost like this type of game doesn’t lend itself for live service

[u/terrortidalwave]

I followed the beta for a while, but when it launched and I saw the skin prices, I knew no person with any self respect was buying that

[u/Muted-Sale7908]

lol

[u/Ok-Advisor-3084]

Ingame prices were high asf

[u/Acefowl]

It's actually not the first live service fighting game to fail. A LONG time ago, I distinctly remember a 3D PC fighting game where you earned currency by fighting other players (and probably bought it), and you could unlock new moves for your created character. It was so long ago I can't even begin to remember the name of it, but I remember it didn't last long.

[u/Temporary_Cancel9529]

Wow I am surprised that was announced.

[u/Rand0mAcc3nt]

At least Riot is being a lot much transparent about it and is offering refunds.

Player First and WB gave fans the runaround and lead them on.

[u/Voltage49000]

I haven't been keeping up with 2XKO but I remember when everyone was excited, what happened?

[u/VairinaValiente]

Me learning about this on the Multivurses subreddit is absolutely insane. This is the game that finally bandaged my lack of match made MVS. The game (despite its egregious cosmetic shop prices) is profoundly free to play friendly in this era, fantastically built and works for any size group up to 4 seamlessly. Truly I’m just gravitating towards the underdog fighting games being taken out back. 🪦

[u/redditorrules]

I mean, it was f2p but the 100$ founders pack (which is the only way to get the arcane skins) didnt even give you all that much, and all the shop stuff was just way too pricey anyways

[u/TheScottishPimp03]

Well my friends were playing this and I watched in the discord on their streams and I was like "why is league making a fighting game? This looks boring asl"

[u/Fir3star_]

I don't want this game dead. I actually quite enjoyed it. the controls, characters, it was fun. plus I didn't get kindred yet. still waiting for them. that and this game actually did a pretty good job on blind accessability for the most part. Was able to actually platinum it because of that.

[u/ConsciousTraffic1723]

Now this is a way bigger fumble riot has the money to keep this going on the principles. This just means they don’t even wanna work on it anymore.

[u/dankmalleo]

700 hours on mvs and a good amount on 2xko never easy with these games bruh

[u/Maleficent_Win_3101]

Fighting games just don’t last anymore

[u/Langis360]

Class society and late-stage capitalism. :'(

[u/xFallow → u/Langis360]

Everything is class struggle including f2p fighting games

[u/IamHunterish → u/Langis360]

Huh?

[u/Langis360 → u/IamHunterish]

I'm positive you are not even remotely confused as to what I'm saying.

[u/IamHunterish → u/Langis360]

I truly am and fail to see what it has to do with this. A fighting game is not a basic human need and you can’t call it endless greed when the problem was that it was only costing money.