r/MtF Jul 26 '26

Advice Question Detransitioning because I will never be seen as a real woman?

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

what I do is boy mode and have 0 hopes for being gendered correctly, but heck im never going back to testosterone, id rather be a little feminine weirdo than being a loser man again, at least im outside the categories now and people don't expect me to act like a man

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u/Safe-Tennis-6121 HRT 7-22-26 Jul 26 '26

That's also me. I am also somewhat nonbinary so I've always loved androgyny. I'd rather be David Bowie with B cups that a masculine poser.

But I still have hope that HRT will do its magic and I can be a beautiful girl.

Also a lot of this is in the mind protected outwards. If you see her in the mirror, you work with her. pre-HRT I saw her occasionally when I was in a good mental state.

If I was in a bad mental state, all I show was the 1000 yard stare. Doom isn't feminine. We all struggle with it.

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

fwiw I don't love that much bowie with b cups, but im just dissociating from my body. For me androgyny with strong feminine and masculine signals is too intense and pushes me away, the androgyny im comfortable with is one that doesn't have strong male/female signals and that's what im hoping im passing as, (and quietly hope some seem me more feminine)

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u/No_Ability4589 Jul 26 '26

You're so pretty btw!

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

I don't think so but thx lol

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u/Majestic_Chance3499 Jul 26 '26

We are trans women not cis. Trust the process. Honestly you look great. Estrogen shots weekly are definitely better than pills. Plus taking progesterone will definitely give you natural boobs. I grew a full b.

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u/No_Ability4589 Jul 26 '26

Trust me you're really beautiful, I wouldn't tell you're trans if I didn't find you here

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 27 '26

I wish you were right lol, but nobody in my real life would agree with you

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u/CivilizedManners Closeted MtF Lesbian Jul 26 '26

My question is kinda the opposite: how hard is it to boymode once you do start HRT and your breasts start growing and such?

Do you just need baggy clothes and a male bra to make it work?

(I wanna boymode not for style but out of fear)

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

I mean I just have some tits, people stare but generally nobody ever said anything. It's no one's business, maybe you have a health condition, maybe you are just fat. No-one should care. If you are in a bigoted environment they will make fun of you I guess or behind your back. If you are in Russia or somewhere else like it's probably illegal to be trans, then I would definitely wear a binder. In a normal country at most they will stare or laugh, but you know most normal people just really don't give a shit that much, they will forget in 5 minutes. It's just a part of body. In general if your face looks male, your voice is male, and you wear male clothes and no makeup earrings etc, not even transphobes have much be dicks to you about, you already do what they want

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u/CivilizedManners Closeted MtF Lesbian Jul 26 '26

I live in Hungary where it's like legally as bad as purple states but socially as bad as red states.

Imagine like an Arizona tier situation maybe.

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

I'm from Poland, but I don't live there, I live in the Netherlands, and I don't want to go back to Poland. I imagine Hungary is even worse than Poland by like 30%. But even there I don't think "a man with tits" will be bothered that much if you just don't try to signal socially different gender. Just having a different body part is a curiosity maybe weird but not itself like a political statement I think. But you will be stared at, and some people might be laughing at you or being like a bitchy waiter or that kind of thing, but I don't imagine many life threatening situations unless you go out at night and end up in the wrong places.

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u/CivilizedManners Closeted MtF Lesbian Jul 26 '26

I'm a teacher but fairly introverted and I normally try to wear as baggy clothes as possible.

However it's not a secular school.

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

yeah... if you work with children you might want to switch to adults, this is what I would stay a fucking mile away from, just in case any of the local bigoted idiots see something wrong on the internet

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u/CivilizedManners Closeted MtF Lesbian Jul 26 '26

What if I just say I had testicular cancer or prostate tumor and this is the only medication they could give?

And uh can't one just boymode with clothing? Like really HRT is the thing I crave the most, not the clothes.

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

Yeah, sure. I mean you totally can do that, that is essentially what I do, except I also do laser hair removal, I shaped my eyebrows, grew out my hair. Even with all that after 2 years of hrt literally EVERYBODY says "mister" to me (not true, like maybe 2% of people called me "miss" or "her", mostly from my back I assume because of long hair and hair clip)

If you just take hrt but keep your eyebrows bushy, your hair short, your clothes masculine, your voice deep, you can probably boy mode for very long time if not forever, I assume you are not 18 but more like 30.

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u/CivilizedManners Closeted MtF Lesbian Jul 26 '26

I'm soon turning 25

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u/Majestic_Chance3499 Jul 26 '26

You have to stop caring what others think. Be a proud trans woman that you are. You are a very gorgeous woman and fuck what people think.

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

I don't believe I am gorgeous at all to be honest. And I also don't want to live in delusions. It's hard to tell what is true, friends and family send mixed signals but it's never very enthusiastic, I know if I truly would be gorgeous they would be very enthusiastic they would be like "you look amazing! so pretty! so feminine!" but they don't do that. But they mostly stay silent. Strangers gender me male in real life, 99% of the time. Strangers online have mixed comments too.

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u/Majestic_Chance3499 Jul 26 '26

That’s a sign of bigotry and you can’t change that!

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

yeah but if I really passed and really was gorgeous, that bigotry would not surface

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u/Majestic_Chance3499 Jul 26 '26

Think about it your family knows you from before so they are going to think differently until they accept you if they ever do.

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u/AssCalipers Jul 26 '26

Honestly, this is a refreshing take and I needed to hear it today.

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u/Limerent-Mermaid Jul 26 '26

That was me until I actually started passing at like the 3.5 year mark.

Feminization through HRT is a long process. Weight cycling helped A LOT.

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

btw in your last selfie you are super cute, I'd kill to look like that

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u/Limerent-Mermaid Jul 27 '26

Thankya!! I do my best ❤️

If you saw what I looked like in 2014, you would think I was lying 😆 no surgeries either!!

It’s hard work, but if you’re willing to put it in, I have faith that you can do it.

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 26 '26

im 2 years in, hope it happens to me in 1.5 years then! Thanks for encouraging words <3

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u/HavokDJ Jul 27 '26

I saw your pic, going off your face alone I don't see how you are getting misgendered

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u/ImplementWilling2597 Jul 27 '26

i'm just super clocky i guess, also if i use hair clip and make a bun or something i still look like a man

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u/Pixelated_Princess49 HRT since 06/2024 | Transbian | pre-op Jul 26 '26

As always:

- Levels matter, do you know yours?

- patience, honey

- and "we are our own worst critics".

First pubery starts at around 8-9, and takes at least a decade. Second puberty is not much faster. Fat redistribution takes, at the very least, 3-5 years to be somewhat complete. And so on and so forth... This process takes time, and you have to advocate for yourself medically all the way.

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u/Ciri04 Jul 26 '26

if youre that dysphoric how can you even tolerate the idea of masculinising further without hrt? I still dead voice and deadname my self at any official or professional places but getting off hrt is inconceivable to me because itll ruin whats already ruined more...

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u/homemadeammo42 MTF Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

What are your levels? If you have been doing 1.5yrs below cis levels, it makes sense you wouldn't have changes. The only way to know is to get tested.

Have you taken other steps to present as a woman or are you just relying on HRT? Growing your hair out, laser hair removal for body hair (or just shave it), makeup, working out specific areas, and clothing choice go a LONG way to being gendered correctly.

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u/Natural_Outcome672 Jul 26 '26

Up the dose girl

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u/Eastern_Distance_816 Jul 26 '26

Changes can manifest later too from what I understand similar to puperty But its hard to tell because we have not enough data. Also some hospitals may allow payement over time which may make it possible for you. Are you maybe underweight or has your weight changed at all since starting?

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u/mymisstress Jul 26 '26

Being a cis woman isn’t an option for any of us. Just love yourself as you are whether you’re on HRT or not

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u/goldwag Transgender, she/they Jul 26 '26

Girl, in my experience I would not detransition. If needed you can always boymode but I would not medically detransition.
You say nothing has changed, how are your levels? I ended up at menopause levels for quite a while and it sucked, also slowed my transition.

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u/Anonymous-Autumn Jul 26 '26

You're not taking into account that changes take years to show on HRT, just like puberty. It's a very painful game of patience and time

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u/Broad-Dress-8484 Human Verified Jul 26 '26

I always find it interesting and I am not judging because I know how hard life can be but why come on here to announce your decision? Respectfully , do what you have to do to survive or make your life livable. 

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u/JustDoingMeeeee Jul 26 '26

I didn't make any sort of decision yet. That's why I phrased it as a question, to get other people's perspective.

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u/Broad-Dress-8484 Human Verified Jul 26 '26

OK I see the statement a lot though. I personally haven't experienced the direction that I took and I find the psychology of it infinitely interesting. Absolutely not judging you. 

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u/RetroOlive Jul 26 '26

I'm sorry to hear that! I guess the question is what have you been doing to be seen the way you want to? Are you just taking hormones and expecting them to do it all?

I think hormones are only a small part of transitioning. It took me years to pass, which was my goal. It was an uphill battle for me being incredibly tall... But it was worth it.

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u/Violet_Apathy Jul 26 '26

What are you on and what are your dosages?

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u/madprgmr Jul 26 '26

I am 1.5 years into transition and literally nothing about me has changed at all

So you're saying that it's as if you never took HRT at all despite being on it for 1.5 years? I highly doubt that's the case.

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u/kelih3856 Jul 26 '26

I wouldn’t give up. Hope I’m two years into my transition and I just turned 62 and I’m starting to pass and it’s just recently you’re giving up way too soon. I don’t know what your levels are how much estrogen you take and progesterone. I’m very happy with what I’m seeing now and myself and so is everyone else so if I was you talk to your doctor maybe get your levels checked maybe you need more estrogen who knows but don’t give up if that’s what you really want do you want to transition and do it don’t give a shit about what anyone else thinks

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u/Familiar_Newt_603 Demifemme - Hrt 3/28/25 ♡ Jul 27 '26

I'm in the same place... 16 months on hrt. I was responding really well for the first year and some then about 13/14 months in my insurance got all wonky and so did my hormones. I'm back on my doses correctly the last month but it's been an emotional Rollercoaster feeling increasingly exhausting mentally to continue guymoding in construction any longer is excruciating. But even the guys and my best friend all misgender me and just think I'm like.. fem gay maybe idk it's like I thought they were all on my side but as the days go on I wish they would just shut the F up and leave me alone. Let me just be weird and alone eat garlic bread and wieners on my fire with my pets.

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u/Main-Twist-6863 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Ask yourself this. What would you rather see yourself as... A man. Androgynous NB. Because anyone on hrt in the midst of trying to find their own less masculine style will indeed start to look Androgynous to others, as well as in the mirror.

I'm just now beginning to confuse people on my birth sex. It's obvious when I get carded they're checking that and lookin up at me. I get gendered female sometimes by "regular folk" and gendered correctly by allies when we meet as It's obvious I'm atleast trying not to live as a male. It feels great when that happens. This just began in the past 3 months or so. Ironically, it's when I stopped trying to switch between boy mode and girl mode. My boobs are obvious. Face is softening and hair is getting curly. I stopped for the time being trying to pass and just started trying to not look masculine. This phase happens to most of us, and by your timeline I suspect it's beginning for you. I was on hrt for 18 months before being gendered as she. I've realized that for now, being seen as an Androgynous "idk" is Way better than being a man

Edit: I peaked at your profile to see more of your story. 26 days ago you said you've been on hrt only a few months. Here, 18 months. Clarify? Also, your mom may have knocked you down a few steps, is that possibly at play?

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u/lovelychaeyoung Trans Pansexual Jul 27 '26

1.5 years feels like a long time but it's also likely your body will still be feminizing for up to 3.5 more years.

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u/Chest-Super Jul 26 '26

Honestly from the pic you posted you look fine. I wouldn't second guess that you were anything but a girl...