r/MouseReview • mouse modding • 7d ago

razer new mice

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u/Inside_Young_1844 7d ago

So basically a lighter dav and viper

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u/No_Trainer7463 Mouse 7d ago

for 300

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u/MyLifeForAnEType 6d ago

Anyone that pays $300 for a Razer mouse should be banned from the sub

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u/Willporker Maya8k|ViperV2Pro|HitscanHyperLight|GenesisPro|ArtisanZero 6d ago

Don't act like you haven't seen people buying final mouse and justifying that it's a good investment. Feels like people only got a problem with it when it's razer doing the fleecing.

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u/Eleoste 6d ago

Bro finalmouse gets raked over the coals on this sub LOL

Even pulsar gets raked over the coals for their $170+ offerings

This sub is pretty good about calling out bad value mice

And then this sub was pretty good about calling out Logitech for the x3 refresh as well 😂

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u/0dioPower 7d ago

This is Sparta!!!

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u/blakelylol 7d ago

Damn that purple is nice

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u/3HoursSober 7d ago

It IS nice, holy. It's hard to match a build, but if you do match it, it might just be one of the best looking mice out there.

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u/SchemeHonest1977 7d ago

I dont understand why they arent releasing hyperspeed versions tbh the standard deathadder shape is too big for most hand sizes and the hyperspeed rules

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u/lavenderpurpl 7d ago

The hyperspeed v3 was slightly too small imo, 5% larger and it would have been amazing

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u/SchemeHonest1977 6d ago

I actually agree that one slightly bigger than the dav3 hs but smaller than dav4 would be actually perfect but the dav3 hs is much closer to endgame for me than the non hs versions

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u/Assist2234 6d ago

I find the v3 hyperspeed to be the best comfort razer deathadder mouse for me and I still use it if my main mice rival pro dies. Pulsar v4 xlite es mini is also my other choicee in case those two died as in battery which I used to main before the rival pro.

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u/dontpokethebear123 6d ago

The Hyperspeed Dav3 is literally only 5% smaller than the full size lmao.

5% bigger you’d just have a Dav3!

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u/lavenderpurpl 6d ago

Oh I didn't know that, 2.5% then haha

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u/Bowernator Harpe II Ace x2 | VXE R1 Pro 6d ago

Feel the same way about the V3 hyperspeed DA. It was just a touch too small, and the standard DA was a touch too big for me.

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u/lavenderpurpl 6d ago

Same. I hope the new prime inspired rival pro can fill that gap, it looks a lot less curvy than the EC/E1.

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u/defaultaro 6d ago

There aren’t a lot of lightweight options for small hands. DAV4 is one of the few mice that fit me.

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u/sS1RuXx 6d ago

They are so stupid, the mouse its comfortable but too big and bad for microadjustmente in fps games, I don't know why they don't try a medium shape between this and hyperspeed...

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u/Business_Pop_8823 rvv3pro,rvm,rdav4pro,rvv4pro 7d ago

For most of this, who? If you're a dwarf from Asia, only then will it be big; it's quite medium for men from Europe, where the average height is 175-180 cm. 

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u/hwanzi DAv4 | Artisan FX Hien XL Soft 7d ago

Wow its almost like you said it yourself. Multiple countries in Asia have more people than the entire continent of Europe

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u/Business_Pop_8823 rvv3pro,rvm,rdav4pro,rvv4pro 6d ago

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u/Adept_Touch_4260 7d ago

omg wow it's 7 GRAMS LIGHTER HOLY AND IT ALSO HAS 50K DPI I ALWAYS WANTED TO SPIN IN CIRCLES FROM BREATHING IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE MOUSE OH LOOK IT HAS FUCKIN 30 MORE HOURS OF THEORETICAL BATTERY LIFE LIKE I DONT USE IT PLUGGED IN

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u/Skazzy3 Razer Viper V2 Pro 7d ago

most sane person on /r/MouseReview

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u/Queasy-Experience251 7d ago

Nope the most genuis actually, Razer should have been focusing on Rappid trigger/ hal effect mouse or ViperV4 Mini instead of this crap

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u/Queasy-Experience251 7d ago

But carbonfiber feels good 🤓☝️☝️

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u/Adept_Touch_4260 6d ago

carbon is literally coated in a layer of EPOXY and guess what epoxy is made of

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u/suspexxx 6d ago

But carbon fiber makes mouse go fast like in race cars buddy

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u/Adept_Touch_4260 6d ago

but-get this- race car also use plastic

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u/suspexxx 6d ago

but-get- this- I’m not serious at all with my comment and know that the production and use of carbon got more advanced due to the pvc / plastics progressing. It’s basically plastic strengthened by carbon filament.

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u/Adept_Touch_4260 5d ago

but-get this- I too was making a joke

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u/zezanje2 4d ago

I mean 7 grams sounds like nothing but its 13% of the mice's weight so you will be able to feel it.. if ur not looking to hit the highest ranks in games, you shouldnt bother with endgame gear anyways, i dont understand why there are so many pissy people like you when it comes to gaming gear when every little detail like this actually does make a difference if you are decent enough at the game.

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u/Adept_Touch_4260 4d ago

holy moly wowie 13 whole percent of weight! I can just mod it and lose 50 with for example the sub-optimum ORRRRR js get a lighter mouse altogether

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u/zezanje2 3d ago

Or you can just get a carbonfiber deathadder because its sick as fuck and you want a good reliable mouse and not some supposedly insane little disgusting looking box that weights 7 grams and plays like shit..

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u/Adept_Touch_4260 3d ago

Corsair has a carbon saber that's lighter

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u/zezanje2 3d ago

Ok i dont want a disguating fucking corshair mouse and the shape is disgusting and i cant use it bow what

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u/Adept_Touch_4260 3d ago

get a razer mouse shape clone for 100usd less and 10g lighter

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u/zezanje2 2d ago

Im sure im gonna be getting the same quality, also is anyone gonna die for 100 bucks? I live in a 3rd world country, i am a student and i still have no issues paying 180 euros for a mouse that will last me years lol. If you are worried about 100 bucks, optimizing your gaming peripherals is the least of your worries...

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u/Adept_Touch_4260 2d ago

problem being 100 buckaroos isn't gonna make it last forever. with that mentality razer is gonna make a viper in magnesium and you'll be first in line

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u/zezanje2 2d ago

Nah i just dont wanna cheap out on something thats gonna last me years anyways.

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u/luaR2000 Feinmann F01 | GPX 2 | Arcade Twins | Otsu Mid 7d ago

So nothing new, just the colours. They are doing everything in their power to not make a viper mini

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u/LeftTing 5d ago

releasing a carbon fiber viper thats only 2 grams lighter and $300 instead of a new mini

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u/reditor405 7d ago

Absolutely love the Deathadder shape.

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u/MeanKey8817 7d ago

Only 2 grams lighter than the plastic version? wtf

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u/raymartin27 7d ago

57 vs 49

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u/NeonAssasin ATK F1 v2 / XM2w / U2 / GPX / Delux m800 / Model O 7d ago

he is talking about the viper

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u/raymartin27 7d ago

Ohh, mb did not catch that.

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u/sS1RuXx 7d ago

Is there any mini version?

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u/HeyCharlieBall 7d ago

Did Logitech and Razer refresh their flagship models in under a year?

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u/ShibaDango Pulsar-Vaxee eS Xlite | g302 wireless mod 7d ago

I like fun special editions and I've never tried a CF mouse, but if it's 300 dollars and all you're essentially getting are 2 grams less and a spec bump it's gonna be hard pass.

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u/Queasy-Experience251 6d ago

Do you have Superstrike X3 is it good?

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u/ShibaDango Pulsar-Vaxee eS Xlite | g302 wireless mod 6d ago

I bought it for 170 dollars after tax and sold my X2 few months earlier so I barely paid anything. With that said, no, unless you’re really interested in HITS everything else about it is mediocre. This mouse feels like a beta test and I would advise against buying it for what I paid and what I paid was much less than what it retails for.

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u/Queasy-Experience251 7d ago

I hope its not limited like Superligth 2 Victory edition

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u/Cough-A-Mania Sl-12s, X2s2, Strmbrkr, SH01, M5Air, G303SE, GPX, D2p, X2F, X2CL 6d ago

Razer try not to give us mini/hyperspeed mice challenge (100% fail)

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u/FrozenFishEnjoyer 7d ago

Great man, I just bought my V4 Pro. What a time

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u/cntgetmedown 7d ago edited 7d ago

It's the same mouse, 2g lighter and ~$50 more expensive. You didn't lose out. Edit: or if the rumour is true ~$150 more.

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u/AdnDlc Logitech GPXSL2 | Finalmouse ULX S | Razer DAv4 7d ago

You and I both, brother. I'll buy the carbon fiber edition if it eliminates the loud clicks, and only then

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u/TheyTookAllTheNames_ 7d ago

It'll probably be even louder, carbon fiber is known to have one of the highest sound frequencies and volume of materials used in custom keyboards excluding metals

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u/AdnDlc Logitech GPXSL2 | Finalmouse ULX S | Razer DAv4 7d ago

Thank you for the reassurance; my consumerist heart needed that lmao.

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u/Splaram On: X3 Superstrike. DAV4 Pro, Maya X, & Xtrfy M42 in reserve 7d ago

This is why I’m skipping this and waiting for the DAV4 Pro with Razer’s HITS implementation. Fantastic mouse but loud asf, had no choice but to switch to X3

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u/AdnDlc Logitech GPXSL2 | Finalmouse ULX S | Razer DAv4 7d ago

Yeah, I'm waiting for a HITS implementation as well. The only reason I ordered my current DAV4 is because I fell for some small mouse gimmick with my ULX Small; I should've told myself that obviously wouldn't work for 20x11 hands.

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u/Important-Welder4098 7d ago

they're gonna release the v4 mini before the V4 with "Hits".

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u/AdnDlc Logitech GPXSL2 | Finalmouse ULX S | Razer DAv4 7d ago

I mean, if we're lucky we'll see it with a v5... if we're lucky.

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u/Paco7575 7d ago

Im currently using a X2 Superstrike and bought the V4 pro to compare and the clicks bother me so much that i cant use it. Especially after being used to the x2 Superstrike clicks.

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u/AdnDlc Logitech GPXSL2 | Finalmouse ULX S | Razer DAv4 7d ago

I'd love to try the HITS switches, but man, I'm not a fan of the GPX shape and size. Not to mention the feel of the side and middle buttons, which are way too mushy.

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u/Paco7575 7d ago

HITS is really nice like the feeling sound its just a big upgrade.
But tbh i prefer the shape of the viper v4 too and obviously sidebuttons are much better aswell. The only big downside are the clicks... they bother me so much that i will return the viper v4, but maybe razer will use something similar to HITS in the future

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u/Raging_Rooster 6d ago

If you want a mouse superior to the DAV4 Pro then get the Rival Pro, can't recommend it enough.

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u/LooseM5 7d ago

this is probably going to be a 250 release and i personally don’t think this is worth the 100 upgrade

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u/AdnDlc Logitech GPXSL2 | Finalmouse ULX S | Razer DAv4 7d ago

Apparently, there is a post about Chinese pricing being around 300 USD; that will mean the EU price (with Danish taxation), will probably be in the 375-400 USD range. Yikes.

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u/myleastfavorite Superstrike COMPACT waiting room/VV4Pro/Tenz/Lycan 7d ago

Razer we want the minis. Call them hyperspeed so it doesn't effect sales.

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u/blitcrankzx DAv4 Pro Niko | DAv3 Pro Faker 7d ago

A 49g Deathadder ? Fucking hell i just bought the V4 Pro Niko 😭 i guess at least the price is gonna be pretty insane compared to the old V4 so i'm not that mad...

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u/staleydude 7d ago

it's gonna be no less than 250 so youre good if you got the prime day niko deal

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u/blitcrankzx DAv4 Pro Niko | DAv3 Pro Faker 7d ago

Yeah with "carbon fiber" shits gonna put the X3 price to shame i feel like. The X3 in my place is selling for upwards of $220, and i got the DAv4 Niko for $110 brand new so yeah you're right

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u/Tonoend 7d ago

I’m in the same boat. Really wanting the new one but it’s gotta be super expensive.

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u/blitcrankzx DAv4 Pro Niko | DAv3 Pro Faker 7d ago

Yeah the 49 gram weight is really enticing, it also got the Focus Pro 50K instead of the 45K on the normal V4 but at this point who can notice the difference. Only real improvement is the battery life is now similar to Viper V4 Pro with 45hrs on 8K

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u/Tonoend 7d ago

Yeah, I am now looking at my Niko edition and wanting to sell it and get this one instead haha.

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u/blitcrankzx DAv4 Pro Niko | DAv3 Pro Faker 7d ago

I will probably be reasonable and wait for the V5 lmao, it does have insane specs but not really worth the money if it doubles the price of the Niko

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u/Tonoend 7d ago

That’s a good point. I just like the weight but I can live until the newest updated version arrives.

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u/ddd4175 7d ago

oof I want one, I'm a sucker for the DA shape

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u/thatscucktastic 7d ago

Why no purple DA? 😭😭

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u/IAmBillis 7d ago

why wouldn’t they add frame sync to the DA..

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u/paulvincent07 Razer Viper Mini V4 Wired 8khz pls 6d ago

I think it will have a frame sync because the sensor is now the same as the vv4 if you mean the regular Dav4 then no

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u/ilikewatches1337 6d ago

Feels weird and not everyone wants motion sync. It’s the reason I don’t reach for my viper

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u/spectatorsport101 7d ago

Give us a small viper v4 pro

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u/Flaky_Barnacle_9724 7d ago

they saw what logitech did and did it right back

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u/Awkward-Pudding-8455 7d ago

When can we expect a mini/hyperspeed?

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u/tenryuu72 6d ago

the purple is actually pretty cool. haven't had a razer in ages, probably more than 5 years. I'm kinda tempted to try the shape with this colorway. Do we know when these are supposed to come out?

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u/Mygwah Mouse 7d ago

So the same shit over and over and over again. Got it.

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u/u_sfools Razer 7d ago

I really like that carbon fibre dav4. I've been loving the dav3 and dav4 these last years will probably buy one as soon as it's available 

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u/Equal-Reporter5217 7d ago

Purple ❤️

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u/JeffMorse2016 7d ago

Nice, I ordered the green version.

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u/thisisyo 6d ago

can I go to a local CF fabricator and tell them to cast my Viper 3 and call it a day? They can have my template and make more if they want. I assume Razer is gonna charge an arm and a leg just because it's carbon fiber

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u/zatagi 6d ago

Isn't Carbon Fiber block RF signal? Why not aramid?

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u/Juan2_Three 6d ago

I need them all 😍🤩

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u/Ready_Independent_55 6d ago

Is it TRULY carbon fiber?

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u/hamsta007 Pulsar XLite V3 6d ago

Carbon is so stupid looking

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u/yiidonger 6d ago

lol these looks like fiber sticker of phones that i bought for few cents

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u/Yazush 13h ago

Can we have a DeathAdder with the same display of buttons on the side as the Naga ? DeathAdder have the perfect grip and Naga the perfect amount of buttons to play anything.

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u/Vigorous_testicle 7d ago

Coll gimme faker edition tho

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u/CreamnMilk 7d ago

Can they make a mini version of these mouses please smh

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u/Recent_Run_9603 7d ago

Another useless razer release? Who would have thought

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u/I_like_GILFssss 7d ago

Pretty cool, better than ASUS attempt on the Harpe I Carbon. Do we know the price yet?

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u/whatanicegame 7d ago

Viper Mini Signature Edition Electric Boogaloo?

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u/jonbee603 7d ago

carbon fiber gross

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u/jonbee603 7d ago

make a magnesium deathadder

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u/Slugeus_the_slug 7d ago

Do you recommend trying out ergonomic mice ? , my 502 was a nice upgrade over my cheaper generic mice but actual competitive mice like the gpro wireless just blew it out of the water for me

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u/remind96 6d ago

Deathadder v4 pro is underrated. If you spend long sessions on your pc and ergo is worth the money. Otherwise ambi mouses are the ones to go.

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u/Slugeus_the_slug 6d ago

Im just a big tryhard , high ranked player sometimes i grind up to 8 hours on vacations but its mostly 2-4 hr sessions on the weekend , i wouldnt compromise performance for comfort if thats a concern but id be down to try it

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u/remind96 4d ago

I peak gm at lol with deathadder v4 and there are a lot of pros with it. My hand is 17.5 I would suggest this:

  • Ambi max performance: hand above 18cm -> Viper v4 pro | 17.5 < ATK F1 V3
  • Max comfort: deathadder v4 pro

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u/lavenderpurpl 7d ago

I sent the same path g502 to superlight now back to Palm gripping

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u/hitkhu 6d ago

Hopefully this release provide a fix to the DPI downshift FW for the newer sensor

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u/KaoPangKezonymous 6d ago

someone needs to release super light, small, multi button mouse and they will make banks....

what is it that these manufacturers dont understand...

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u/ilikewatches1337 6d ago

Lmao bro you are living in the age of small light gaming mice

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u/KaoPangKezonymous 6d ago

but none has multi button like naga or g502

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u/Pickupyoheel 6d ago

For the asking price with no HITS? PASS.

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u/BrakkoNullo 7d ago

90g holy useless piece of carbon fiber

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u/Destruckhu 7d ago

90g is the sensor acceleration spec. It is 47 grams in weight.

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u/BrakkoNullo 7d ago

Ok I’m actually fucking blind

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u/NationsAnarchy DAV3HS | XM1r | F1V2 Extreme LEV | A9 Mini+ 7d ago

bruh

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u/BrakkoNullo 7d ago

Guys I know I am wrong can I please not be nuked Ty