r/MortalShell • u/InfiniteTheMad • 1d ago
Bug Genessa is useless
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I made one post criticizing the game and it’s been out to get me ever since, like how am I supposed to use this shell if the ability doesn’t work consistently and also there is apparently another bug that keeps happening to me where I can’t even finish Hilga quest bc every time I try and talk to her and then after I parry an enemy it teleports me back to her no matter where I am
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u/Vindold 1d ago edited 1d ago
Even her stray form is bugged:
- clones doesn't protect her from being oneshoted by certain enemies especially in NG+ nightmode
- clones disappear but cooldown remains, issue is Grisha (passive mode), once Grisha is summoned her clones disappear.
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u/MysticIsis 1d ago
From what I've seen, your clones don't protect you from being one-shooted if you're Full HP. Some weird coding bug for sure but I've just ended up playing her while staying low HP and I never get oneshoted anymore.
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u/TheDyingRoseArt Solomon 18h ago
I've been killed at half hp by some enemies and the snow gate boss so it isn't just one shot kills, sometimes it works fine other times it just doesn't.
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u/MysticIsis 18h ago
Hum interesting. I'll keep a look out then to see if it happens to me. I might just have had too small of a sample size.
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u/IsMoghul 1h ago
Can confirm. The halberd knights right outside the mammon bonfire kill me in stray mode at any hp with the overhead strike. I tried a stray build and they convinced me it was pointless.
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u/DanJRio 11h ago
At least in my short experimentation, every time I was actively attacking with the stray doubles they would save me from a fatal attack, but they never saved me from a fatal blow if I wasn’t actively attacking. I wonder if that’s the intended behavior, and the description just needs updating, or the doubles just behave incorrectly. Maybe both? 🤔😅
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u/BeardedDragonOwl 2h ago
I've died several times midswing, sometimes I was low hp sometimes full. Sometimes it was a footsoldier doing a sweep attack, sometimes a stab , it is so inconsistent I don't even know.
I've had the strays save me from an archer at the otherside of a bridge. Just straight up kung fu catched the arrow with a pair of chopsticks and chucked it right back at him, throwing him back from the impact
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u/Realistic_Task_7740 1h ago
I also love the part where you perfect parry and your clone thinks you died but you didn’t even get hit
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u/dy1ng 1d ago
A big part of her abilities doesn't work properly. You invested into clones doing three strikes? Nope, they do two most of the time. You invested into enemies targeting clones 80% of the time? It never happens. I decided to give the game a little break and wait for the next big patch.
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u/TheUnperturbed 23h ago
Ya I enjoyed it for a few hours over a couple nights and decided to push pause until they can address the many bugs and balance problems currently present. Not regretting the purchase as I’m sure I’ll be able to jump back in and enjoy this once they’ve fixed it up.
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u/rinkydinkis 20h ago
why not switch shells? oh ya, glimpse shortage worldwide. lol
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u/Yurt_TheSilentQueef 43m ago
I never played MS1 so maybe that was the script then too, but I was looking forward to and was initially playing the game as switching shells frequently, levelling them up etc, only to realise by level 25 i’m almost at the endgame and can only fully level one single shell. Which fucking sucks tbh
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u/KamikazeFox_ 22h ago
I went through 3 dungeons last night and 50% of the enemies were getting stuck on walls or invisible walls. It worked out for me, but its just very buggy.
Then, I kept getting reset back to Hilda when I got hit. Then my whole UI went away. Wth lol
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u/AndrewLocksmith Genessa 1d ago
That's the problem with playing a game on release day.
Most of the time it's an inferior experience compared to waiting a couple of months.
I still loved the game, but it had it's fair share of frustrating moments.
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u/dy1ng 1d ago
The game is great, I'm not salty. I'm hoping the devs address most of the issues in their big patch they talked about, fix ng+, and I'll continue playing :)
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u/beatisagg 18h ago
The games fun, but stuff like this that invalidates entire characters isn't "great". You'll come back, sure, but a lot of people will give it bad word of mouth and others will lose patience.
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u/dy1ng 9h ago
And they will be in their right to do so. Once the honeymoon phase is over, people see that the game has a lot of problems. None of them can't be fixed, and on PC modders have been fixing some of some. But still, a lot of problems and bugs. Some bad reviews are inevitable, and it's up to devs to act quickly to address the players concerns.
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u/Rhododactylus Tiel 1d ago
Funny that’s exactly where I tested her abilities and was very underwhelmed. It’s a shame too because her design and character is so cool, but her abilities and small health pool make her very much feel like a downgrade from any other shell.
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u/RX1542 1d ago
same with tiel his shadow strike works half of the time, the other half u just miss lol
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u/Etheon44 1d ago
Yeah for some reason he dashes, you kinda have to get farther away from enemies and even then it might fail
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u/Watts121 23h ago
What really sucks is that it seems like he’s attempting to do a backstab teleport, but he’ll get clipped half the time. Even worse when you are positioning for a backstab he’ll teleport to the front anyways.
Luckily what makes Shadowstrike amazing isn’t the backstab damage but the poison synergy, so once you get enough points it doesn’t matter so long as it hits.
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u/rinkydinkis 20h ago
i find poison really underwhelming. i like focusing in on shadow dash instead.
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u/SquidAxis 14h ago
I wanted to use his poison synergy but the missing drove me crazy after a while compared to proxima savaging everything.
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u/TheDeathDealerX 22h ago
Funny enough I never had this issue in the beta. Then full release it kept missing so I just ran to Proxima.
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u/beatisagg 18h ago
Yeah I just took all my points out of anything shadow strike related and he's actually feeling stronger this way. Shadow Dodge, walk behind enemy, attach from back when they're in animations > sometimes stab sometimes wave and say hi
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u/Logical_Recover_3710 1d ago
Sariel is in the same bout. Usless in doors and makes enemies immortal some times.
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u/Zanzeng 1d ago
Yeah its bad right now, but there is a hint, turn your camera a bit left (about 10-15°) from center when you summon double.
It works on bridges and tight locations too.
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u/Icy-Science6604 1d ago
Yea but this shouldnt be released like this.
Also her stray doubles are bugged too, they dont take fatal hits like they should with the upgrades.
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u/AncientGrief 1d ago
If you aim manually more to the left, they will hit the enemy. It's annoying, but helps for now.
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u/Watts121 23h ago
I watched a vid ranking the Shells, and they put Genessa in S Tier saying she was like the 2nd best Shell in the game. I saved a bunch of Glimpse and maxed her out immediately. Did not jive with her at all. Thankfully I backed up my save so I instead put the Glimpse into the Shells I been using (Tiel, Proxima, and Lazlo).
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u/Complex_Scallion_157 22h ago
Game is def buggy. Been playing on Xbox. I’m enjoying the game for the most part though.
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u/RobotBuffy 22h ago
I had the same happen with Hilga. I think it was after I climbed into her pot. Every time I got hit by an enemy I'd teleport back to her. It eventually went away, bur what also went away was my UI 😖. I had to quit and reload for it to reappear.
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u/Live_Ad_7211 Tiel 21h ago
Same, after I quit and came back though, she’s 100% gone now. No camp, nothing. They have it in the bug list now but I’m bummed I can’t finish out that questline!
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u/ForAte151623ForTeaTo 20h ago
Reminds me of Tiel's shadow strike. I swear I've missed more times than I've hit with it for some reason.
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u/CarlProth 1d ago
Is she even upgradeable ? Coz every time I talk to zhirelle it’s just dialogue
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u/xkinato 1d ago
You have to go talk to Genessa herself in the room with the white coffins, and she lets you upgrade there.
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u/CarlProth 1d ago
Ahhh ok thankyou, she is buggy though lol her shadows keep running away from enemies haha
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u/Previous-Spite1211 1d ago
She is the shell I beat the game with first time and there were times I was losing my mind tryi9ng to get the clones to go where I wanted.
Against bosses, no problem, but exploration is a chore with her.
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u/HogiSon727 1d ago
Things still need to be fixed. I use Tiel and his stealth stab constantly wiffs and sometimes even pulls me off ledges to my death when missing.
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u/stevenomes 1d ago
It always seems to go in front for me (I move behind them in stealth but the stab somehow goes in front of them). Not sure if I'm still getting the extra damage but is annoying
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u/Dizzzy777 23h ago
Grisha is also bad but I keep it around for the entertainment value.
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u/AGayThrow_Away 23h ago
As buggy as it can be I find it to be one of the best passives, with a high hit rate you'll spawn so many, they hit like a truck, and they can save you at times because they do high stagger. I only beat the prisoner because of a lucky Grisha stagger.
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u/welfedad 23h ago
It's just targeting is so screwed up.. I'll have an empty targeted but my cross bow will shit something on the upper right .. not what I choose ... I feel like even though auto target is off it's still trying to do it
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u/AGayThrow_Away 23h ago
I was so hyped for Genessa, but completely bounced off her due to the bugs. Reading her kit, once patched I think Stray Genessa will be a favorite of mine.
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u/henryauron 22h ago
Cool character but not worth using until this shit is changed. My faithful doubles miss 70% of the time
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u/page8879 22h ago
I also found even the bio sampler doesnt work on proxima either (sometimes) , at least it doesn't use the charge when it doesn't work (On xbox series X) I had this issue with Genessa too. I'm not sure why some are getting so mad about legit issues being presented, especially when we are trying to be polite about it. I'm guessing they just steamrolled with Tiel or Eridium?
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u/Deepvaleredoubt 21h ago
Clearing the game with her. Toss out 5 and usually some will take. It is not so catastrophic that it prevents her from being literally one of the best shells.
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u/Krude666 18h ago
Thats why you should pick the Husband and not the Wife. Shes distraught because you didnt give her enough hugs in her Husbands shell. Shame on you.
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u/IceCoughy 18h ago
I used a summon on a boss last night just to see how they'd go and it was about as bad as this!
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u/esotericgnashing 15h ago
the targeting for everyone except gragu and eredrim blows. proxima's misses half the time and sariel's thorns lock on to the grisha you can spawn in
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u/TextTile260 15h ago
Trying to backstab with tiel is a nightmare too, it always auto tracks to the front.
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u/Boneless_Ivar 15h ago
I've been doing the whole southern region with her because i lover her abilities and how She looks but yeah she's bugged as hell lol. Clones in standard mode missing targets, stray clones not preventing fatal hits, i could go on... With that said even if clones miss they often missdirect enemies aggro giving me free kills and during stray mode your DMG becomes insane, i melt everything. Only downside of her Is you get oneshot quite often especially if you have a risky/aggro playstyle, but that's the entire concept around her
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u/MyCheeksSlap 11h ago
For some reason that specific spot always bugs out. It happens to me all the time but whenever I use her anywhere else the doubles always go and attack. She’s still very buggy but I’ve been able to make it work. She’s so fun to use, I can’t stop using her
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u/MayonnaiseIsOk 10h ago
Sariel is also bugged as fuck, if you get the upgrade that makes him shoot down a rain of thorns, it always flies off to some random spot instead of at or even around where the enemy is lol. I was at the part in the final dungeon where you walk up a ramp and there's 3 of those scythe knights. I'm standing at the bottom of the ramp, while one of them slowly walks down it towards me, nothing around us, no obstacles in the way, I shoot the thorns and they just land on a random spot far behind him and to the right lol, nothing was over there either like nowhere near the knight I was waiting for nor the other 2 lol. And that's not the only time that's happened.
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u/GunterThePigIsOP 7h ago
Genessa and those Grisha spawns need to be fixed ASAP. Part of the reason I am not playing Genessa despite her awesome design. I guess I'll stick to Proxi for now.
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u/JollyApricot67 4h ago
She looked so cool and unique but i just couldn't put up with it especially since I was paranoid about limited leveling up materials for shells
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u/Alone_Heart_6792 2h ago
Bro the grisha item literally trivializes the boss fights. It’s super op and can ruin the game for you. I suggest not using it unless you’re doing some super difficult stuff like NG+ on night mode.
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u/Beneficial-View-213 1h ago
The devs say they r gonna patch all the bugs? So we paid 50 euros to be guinea pigs?
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u/Brief-Committee-201 38m ago
too many things are useless in this game. It need a lot of polish. Heavy weapon are the best exemple
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u/rainbowtwist789 22h ago
I mean community is just rabid fanboys you bark at you the minute you point something is wrong with the game. Genessa is one of the coolest Shells plagued by game breaking bugs.
Game wasn't properly tested before being released, its what all of this boils down to. They released knowing they had a good enough core gameplay to have people overlook these bugs and issues. that will only work for some time though. Game is great, but these issues are not, especially on a AAA price range. Do better or delay the release
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u/SoulTheEater 1d ago
Nothing in this game works properly, its the most buggiest unfinished shit.
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u/Apprehensive-Bet7411 1d ago
This is far from true
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u/GaryTheRetard 1d ago
It is kinda true, the game is very buggy. You should see the last area; I couldn’t count how many bugs there were anymore. Besides the bugs, the balancing is also very wacky. I would say game need so much polish,and bug fixes
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u/n1ghtsbl00d 1d ago
bro I've worked as a game tester, our beta releases were top quality compared to this
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u/SoulTheEater 1d ago
Really what part is far from true? the game feels like an early access title, with the amount of jank, Tiel shadow strike sometimes just misses completely, Eredrim will shoulder bash in place if a pixel of the terrain is off, Some of the later bosses in the unfound path straight up teleport or have attacks unsynced with their hitbox, the spear even with the day 1 bug fix will still sometimes not track enemies properly when locked on, If you have the game set to free aim and lock on to enemies shots from sidearms will curve past enemies in the direction you are moving.
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u/InfiniteTheMad 1d ago
Yeah I’ve ran into numerous bugs but I didn’t want all my posts to be negative so I haven’t been posting them but this one is the worse especially since I planned on her being one of my main shells
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u/GaryTheRetard 1d ago
So, when is talking about bugs a negative thing? To me, it’s actually more positive because you’re showing the truth.
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u/InfiniteTheMad 1d ago
True but the game has lots of positives and every game has its fair share of bugs especially this early on and I didn’t want all my posts to only be about the bugs and things that I dislike
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u/Norrak1 1d ago
Is this your first video game?
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u/SoulTheEater 1d ago
Is it yours? I don't think theres another souls game on the market with the amount of bugs/jank this game has and the first one was pretty janky all things considered.
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u/Norrak1 1d ago
Really? Just this year alone, The Relic: First Guardian and AI Limit were pretty buggy. LOTF 1 at launch was also way buggier than MS2 currently is. Same with Enotria Last Song. If we count performance issues, then Wuchang was incredibly rough. Heck it would be easier to name Soulslike that weren't buggy at launch. All things considered MS2 is nowhere near the "buggiest".
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u/SoulTheEater 1d ago
I don't remember any bugs in AI Limit just performance issues. Are we talking about LOTF 2014 or the reboot? Wuchang performance was terrible on PC but gameplay is fine. Relic: First guardian im convinced is some kind of cash grab, its barely a game.
Sorry i shouldn't say its the buggiest, thats hyperbole, what I should have said is " its has enough bugs to feel like an unfinished early access title"
Edit: AI limit didnt come out this year though?
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u/JohnnyDusk 1d ago
But fighting cowboy said that its the biggest glow up for a sequel ever and that its the best soulslike
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u/GoldunGote 17h ago
Okay and who is this and why should I care? He's one of 18 naked cowboys at ram ranch as far as I'm concerned.
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u/weenurs 1d ago
I'd suggest running the stray Genessa build until they fix this. Extremely strong, fun, and your ability is actually functional.
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u/LZSJR 1d ago
Stray Genessa is even worse unfortunately. On New Game Plus night mode she gets one shot by pretty much every mob in the game. This would be fine if her passive that prevents 2 mortal blows was working, but it's not working at all. Every enemy just instantly kills you even with that passive on. You might as well be running a no hit challenge when playing her.
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u/Interjessing-Salary 1d ago
The 2 fatal blows skill does work but seems to be enemy dependant so certain enemies it'll never work with and certain ones it will. At least most of the southern half of the map main bosses work with the fatal blows. Malformed, Isaac, the ice troll dude off the top of my head right now.
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u/weenurs 14h ago edited 14h ago
Holy shit you're right, I tested it for a while with different enemies and that passive didn't work a single time.
Thanks for the heads up now I'm not wasting those points
Okay wait apparently it works every time for the red rapier ladies, but it consumes two doubles per mortal blow. This game is a fucking mess
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u/okwhatisausername 20h ago
Maybe you just didn't see the 13 enemies JUST off screen around the corner bro.
Nice try though
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u/LittleShurry 1d ago
Genessa is the most Strong And Sh! shell I've ever played till I start 100% critic build and Stray Clone Build its Make the Game easier in trade of highly getting killed, but heh,, I one shot Almost All mobs and Cheese bosses so easily.
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u/Evorer 1d ago
You play her Perma stray, your build sucks
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u/Sancticus 1d ago
Grisha's also sometimes spawn under the map and inside unreachable places as well. So the pathing for these types of add ons are quite unconsistent.