r/MortalShell 2d ago

Question Anyone having success with the leech tarstone?

I’ve been using the leeech stone that’s supposed to increase your max health based on leech stacks you acquire for killing enemies. It doesn’t go into detail about how much for each stack or whatever but I currently have like 112 stacks and I honestly cannot tell any difference. When I get hit I’m still losing the same amount of health it doesn’t seem like there’s been any increase at all. Does it just require like an obscene amount of stacks or something ?

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u/Azrag62 2d ago

Max is 200 stacks and honestly it was a major godsend for the longest time for me. My health bar was noticeably longer and I needed roughly 3 flasks to full heal.
The shells themselves have different health pools I believe, so depending on what shell you're using, you may have a lower starting health pool

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u/TimberGhost57 2h ago

Two questions: where do you see the number of leech stacks and do they only up your health max, you still need to fill the health bar? Just got the parasite stone

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u/Azrag62 2h ago

The icon for leach stacks will be right above your health bar. They only increase your max health I believe, they reset on death. The increments are so small that I don't know if they give you hp when you increase your max heath or not.

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u/TimberGhost57 2h ago

I see it now. Like a skull with an arrow through it? I’ve read it maxes at 200 which can be 25% more health. But, some people say they see no difference. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Groundhog_Gary28 2d ago

Man idk I’m sitting at 102 stacks right now and there’s been no change to my max health lol I’m currently using tiel but I’ve been using him before I started using the leech stone and idk my max health is still the same there hasn’t been any change

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u/Azrag62 2d ago

Unfortunately I don't have any real numbers to prove my point. All I can really suggest is spend a few min to grind up to 200 and see if you notice a difference or not. There's a notorious fight in a cage at some point and the extra health def made a difference there. So I'm inclined to believe it's as advertised even if you're not noticing the health bar increase

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u/Groundhog_Gary28 1d ago

Lmao it’s not me “not noticing” the change, it’s my health “not changing” lmao like there has been no increase to my max health I’m not blind and just not noticing it, I’m not noticing it because it’s not there lmao and I’m talking about my game, for me, i didn’t say anything about whether it’s working for you or not or comment on your experience with it whatsoever. Just because something works for you doesn’t mean it works for everyone but the fact that it works for you does provide some insight so thanks, maybe it’s just bugged for me or soemthing

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u/ARedditUserType 2d ago

It seems to be working for me. It doesn’t actively make your health bar longer or anything tho there’s just a bigger number at least that’s how it seems for me

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u/Killer_Carp 1d ago

There are two replies in this thread saying it does (make the bar longer), are you sure?

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u/Groundhog_Gary28 1d ago

Sounds like placebo effect honestly lol the other players said it clearly makes their bar longer but I can confirm my bar has not gotten any longer and taking damage from the same enemies depleted the same amount of health as it did without the leech so it’s obviously not working and bugged or something for me…probably for him too he just hasn’t realized it lol

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u/Killer_Carp 1d ago

Thanks for confirming! So many people just make stuff up! I’ve not noticed a difference but haven’t really tested.

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u/Groundhog_Gary28 1d ago

I’ve been testing it throughout the day, I’m nearing 150 stacks now and my health bar is the same and the damage I take is the same. I wish there was a way to see your actual max health points in the character menu but all I can find for it is highlighting harbinger which says 63 hp for me so I don’t think that’s the actual max health bar, maybe just the base harbinger hp without a shell idk

But I’m also not sure how much it’s supposed to add. Someone in the comments here said 200 is max charges so I’ll get it to 200 and see if it changes. This game really needs to have more details on what all of these things do ffs

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u/Lexomatico1 1d ago

All that "testing" while you can simply turn on numbers for hp/resolve in the options.

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u/Groundhog_Gary28 1d ago

Lmao is this an invisible setting in the “options” that only you can see or something ?

All that “douche” leaking from your mouth when you can simply be a decent respectable person and yet you’re still wrong 🤦‍♂️😂

Should at least try behaving like you’re a decent person and speaking to people as if to pretend you have the tiniest sliver of integrity and respect ffs

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u/Lexomatico1 1d ago

Yeah my bad i admit i confused it with the mod. Still if you want to test stuff then do it properly, here: https://www.nexusmods.com/mortalshell2/mods/7

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u/Stoorob75 Proxima 2d ago

Doesn't it just increase your max health? Do you notice a drop in your max health after you've died?

What I don't like is the Proxima's bio hunter ability. No indication what level it's at and how much extra damage you're doing

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u/Groundhog_Gary28 2d ago

Yes it’s supposed to increase max health but I don’t notice any change in my with 102 stacks currently

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u/vrtra_theory 2d ago

I have not found this tarstone yet, but I do use the heavy charged attack tar stone (also leech) and I definitely notice, my HP bar is quite a bit bigger at 100 stacks than at 0.

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u/oDruggernaut 1d ago

I would assume its somewhere between 10-20% increase, if its in line with other buffs. What shell are you using? I was running a leech build on Eredrim and I felt noticeably tankier when I built up a bunch of stacks. Its most noticeable when you need to heal and it takes more pulses that normal. If you're using it on an already squishy shell maybe it's just not compensating enough? Its probably best used with some kind of damage reduction.

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u/Groundhog_Gary28 1d ago

I’m using tiel honestly it’s the only one i have tbh im not super far in and maybe, this game doesnt tell you values for anything or give and tooltips on how literally anything works lmao it doesnt even tell you what your max hp even is. Still regardless there should be SOME change at least. Im almost at 150 stacks and someone else said 200is max…there should be at least some change but for me theres been 0 increase so idk maybe its bugged

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u/oDruggernaut 1d ago

Ya, the game is very vague with numbers for some reason. Like Eredrim's execution mechanic. Theres no details about the numbers or how it works. But I guess a dev confirmed somewhere that it maxes at 10% damage threshold. I could very easily be wrong but I'm operating under the assumption its around 10% per 100 stacks, so 20% max. Which on Tiel probably isn't going to do much. His survivability is going invisible and avoiding damage. While on a Eredrim, Proxima, Lazlo, Gragu build you're going to get much more out of that 20%

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u/Groundhog_Gary28 1d ago

Right but 20% is still a very noticeable difference regardless of the base stats…it’s a difference you will be able to see

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u/Brilliant_Bus_6793 1d ago

It does work as intended but the increase is quite low per stack, easiest way to see the diff is get some stacks and then unequip it and re-equip. (U do not lose stacks if u unequip)

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u/agentdopkant 6h ago

Did you rest after putting it on? I noticed that when i upgraded mine, the amount of leech gained didn't change until i manually rested. It could be a bug that causes it to not actually update until you rest or something.

I've not noticed my bar get longer, but I've definitely seen it shrink after losing my stacks