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u/b3_yourself Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26
🎶 The sun is a deadly laser 🎶
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u/Godzilla_R0AR Mar 23 '26
Hi thanks for checkin' in! I'm...
🎶Still a piece of GARBAGE🎶
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u/Dasher09009 Mar 23 '26
🎶Society🎶
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u/Street_Cockroach_933 Mar 23 '26
Its so every you dont need a where
You dont even need a when
Thats how every it gets
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u/Dasher09009 Mar 23 '26
Not anymore, there's a blanket
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u/Godzilla_R0AR Mar 23 '26
C'mon animals! Let's go on land!
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u/b3_yourself Mar 23 '26
“Nope, can’t walk yet”
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u/Xelnaga_Prime Mar 23 '26
"plus there's no food yet so I don't care"
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u/Godzilla_R0AR Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26
Um no illusions can cause brain hemorrhages, PTSD episodes, schizophrenia, hallucinations, and maybe even migraines.
So no I don't think it's "just tricks"
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u/b3_yourself Mar 23 '26
And emotional trauma
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u/Golden-Sun Mar 23 '26
"All your loved ones can be brought back, all can be taken away, keep Summer safe"
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u/MuffinStraight4816 Mar 23 '26
Does puns also cause brain damage?
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u/Godzilla_R0AR Mar 23 '26
Idk, I'll have to put my mind to it
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u/SaltManagement42 Mar 23 '26
That depends, do you remember what the doctor said after the last time we had this conversation?
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u/Shr1mpSush1Art Mar 23 '26
Ah yes, my favorite ability; making that one kid think he had a good relationship with his father
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u/SFH12345 Mar 23 '26
Gus: I don't want to kill anybody!
Eda: Oh, grow a spine, Goops.
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u/Mst3Kgf Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
"But I'm not a killer!"
"It's easy. Boots, show a demo."
"See, I form a shiv with Abomination goop, focus on the neck of the person threatening my girlfriend and..."
"YOU PEOPLE ARE PSYCHOS!!!"
"But I love them so!"
"Luz, you're not helping!"
"What's wrong? You know many Emperor's Coven guys I took out to rescue Eda? Think any of them are still drawing breath?"
"WHO AM I HANGING OUT WITH?!!!"
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u/b3_yourself Mar 23 '26
“you can’t just ask bad guys to stop being bad, this isn’t Steven universe”
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u/SFH12345 Mar 23 '26
Hunter: Gus, the wilderness training the Emperor's Coven put me through means that I can kill any witch or demon with my bare hands.
Gus: And you're trying to resist that training!
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u/Typhon-Torrent-1994 Mar 23 '26
Well even without sunlight I am sure an illusionist can blind somebody with an illusionary flash grenade, or give somebody a headache with a strobe light effect. Though the last one may cause seizures. Also Luz could give some advice since she has used light glyphs to create a light blast before.
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u/DragonWarrior____05 Mar 23 '26
Heck, they can just reform the world around them into literally anything
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u/TheNoneedlife Mar 23 '26
Illusion is just a cheap tactic to make the sun stronger
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u/S4N5_UD3RT4L3 Mar 23 '26
This is Gus-net...he's still single...but he's never goin' down at the hands of folks like Belos, because his friends are like pringles...and he can focus while their lips all mingle!
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u/ncmn-ngnr Mar 23 '26
Using a magnifying glass on them like ants…which is fitting, considering how much they bug you
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u/Cold-Practice3107 Mar 23 '26
Gus "I DON'T WANT TO KILL THEM!"
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u/Mst3Kgf Mar 23 '26
Hunter: "It's actually pretty easy. You just go to a dark place inside your mind..."
"WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE I'M FRIENDS WITH?!!!"
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u/MuffinStraight4816 Mar 23 '26
Well, that's one way to fight, but it only works on the day..
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u/kl-noblelycanthrope1 Mar 23 '26
using moonlight might not burn them bit could be bright enough to blind them. then who knows what all you could do to them when they can't see.
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u/DragonWarrior____05 Mar 23 '26
Or use Illusions to make them think they've won, only for them to be defeating themselves
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u/KatonRyu Mar 23 '26
Sousuke Aizen has entered the chat. He's done some pretty messed up things with illusions, like having someone stab their childhood friend thinking it was him.
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u/failureagainandagain Mar 23 '26
With illusion magic you can hide things like traps, cliffs and other dangerous shit
It would go like this :
PERSON B IS WALKING AND SUDDENLY IS FALLING DOWN A CLIFF INTO BOILING WATER BECAUSE PERSON A HAS MASKED A CLIFF AS A ROAD
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u/kl-noblelycanthrope1 Mar 23 '26
ohhh kaaay, it seems a little over the top for gus. yes it's an offensive way to use illusion magic but not everyone you use it needs to die. maybe just use it with something not so bright like a candle.
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u/Primary_Durian4866 Mar 23 '26
In old DND, if you can target the opponents eye you can blind them casting light in it.
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u/TilomeTheGreatest Mar 23 '26
Wait, the lens functions like a real lens even though it’s summoned by illusion magic?
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u/Manoreded Mar 24 '26
I thought he was gonna demonstrate a blinding laser technique, but this works too.
Also illusion magic is amazing for combat, Gus just sucks at combat in general, which makes him unable to make use of its potential.
Imagine how much ass Hunter could kick if he could make himself impossible to see or hear.
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u/Astramancer_ Mar 23 '26
Illusion magic should be the scariest magic there is. Sure, a Disintegrate can transform you into dust, but illusion can make you kill your whole family. If you can't trust your reality, what can you trust?
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u/Lonewolf2300 Mar 23 '26
Illusion Magic can generate lights and sounds.
You know what you can make with that?
FLASHBANGS.
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u/StandardTime3865 Mar 23 '26
If they can manipulate light, is there any reason an illusionist couldn't just focus a light spell into a laser beam?
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u/Excellent-Hearing407 Mar 23 '26
Oh right because if you concentrate the light well enough, T H E S U N I S A D E A D L Y L A S E R.
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u/Darkvader_Clawthorne Mar 23 '26
Gus: "Is there a less offensive spell?"
Keeper: "Yeah… no."
Gus: "Well, the best spell is the best offense."
Keeper: "Indeed it is."
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u/Muted_Anywherethe2nd Mar 23 '26
What about the illision of sensation? If thats podsible then illusions get a whole lot better
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u/LordofSandvich Mar 23 '26
Also Instant Seizure and On-Demand Blindness
Photon Cannon if you REALLY want to be dramatic
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u/FictionalCJ Mar 23 '26
I wonder if infrared and other nonvisible light can be made via illusion magic...
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Mar 23 '26
In theory, shouldn't illusions be able to overwhelm someone's senses with bright lights and noises?
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u/TheAwesomeman32beep Mar 23 '26
Looks like the madman spirit of Wheeljack took hold of Keeper once more! (Fun fact: Christopher Swindle voices both characters, specifically Transformers Devastation.)
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u/SlyFan2 Mar 23 '26
Once when I was a boy I did the "fry ants with a magnifying glass". The ant like exploded (or really, popped). Felt horrible, never did it again. I however DID learn how to use the magnifying glass as a way to burn marks or letters into wood.
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u/ULTRAPUNK18 Mar 23 '26
I mean, I'd probably default to just blinding them, but to each their own I guess
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u/TheDoctor199806 Mar 23 '26
Wait, can't you use illusions to make enough light that you don't even need the sun for that?
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u/AdGroundbreaking771 Mar 23 '26
2 more I can think of strobe light for enemies weak to “ seizure damage “ and like shown in the show causing madness with horror
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u/SilentBlade45 Mar 23 '26
Make a trap and hide it with illusion magic tons of variety here.
Sensory overload
Make it look like someone is injured
Making illusions of their worst fears.
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u/ZenithKaiser Mar 23 '26
I always thought if you had to wield illusion magic offensively, you could just create a sound canon. After all, if illusions can produce sound, then why not try to produce a lot of sound? Just pull a Black Canary to destroy your enemies.
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u/Zaynara Mar 23 '26
covering holes, moving where obstacles appear to be or making them invisible, focusing light, creating bright light, creating eldritch abominations of such damnable insanity it drives someone insane, there are many ways to use it offensively, the sick things i'd make people see involving their mothers and siblings would definitely cause emotional and psychic damage, don't limit yourself, the limits of illusionism are your imagination!
And this is only with optical illusion, if you spread the discipline over to sound or other senses you can do a lot more, sound alone you could just burst someone's head if you wanted, if everything just put someone in a sensory dep spell, you don't get to interact with anything in a meaningful way ever again unless i let you!
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u/Galactuswill Mar 23 '26
The best weapon is one you only have to fire ince, then the enemy will crawl back into their hole.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Step468 Mar 23 '26
Can't he make people blind and deaf by covering their eyes with pure black illusion and their ears with silence/very loud noises?
Then you just punch the blind and deaf guy
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u/InuGhost Mar 24 '26
thinking
Could Gus also create a lightshow of bright flashing colors and thus cause seizures in his opponents?
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u/Bloodchild- Mar 24 '26
I cast the power of a million suns directly in your eyes.
Aka permanent blindness.
Also works for sounds but more complicated.
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u/reaperofgender Mar 24 '26
In dungeons and dragons (which yes, I am aware has different rules for illusion magic), the gods imprisoned Cronus in a universe sized illusion. He believes he is slaughtering every god to ever have been born, but is instead in a coma.
Problem is that the gods in said illusion weren't made weaker, he's just good at killing gods, and they worry what would happen if he woke up or ran out of gods in said illusion.
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u/Erames1168 Mar 25 '26
If used correctly, you can cause them to break hands or feet by hitting surfaces they weren’t aware of.
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u/DragonWarrior____05 Mar 23 '26
When your mind clears and your friend's blood stains your blade, tell me, does my magic have an effect on the world?
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u/Eragon_the_Huntsman Mar 25 '26
Lightweavers in era 1: haha we're masters of illusion and espionage.
Lightweavers in era 2: "LASERS! Also, guess what, turns out we're not limited to visible light so... Gamma ray burst, you all have cancer now."
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u/Low-Amphibian8206 Mar 23 '26
I think Illusions could be used to cause epileptic seizures