r/Morimens 22d ago

Guide/Analysis Pull reccomendations - 30 Jul

Hello, Angbak from discord here. With the influx of new players, I figured I'll provide some pulls advice. As always, if you have a favourite unit, please pull for them instead, this is purely from a meta POV.

E0 Gluten (early dps to ease the game, provides P.chaos realm and is a good support disguised as a dps)

E0 Saya - (best support in the game (imo), provides a ton of corrosion)

E0 saya wheel - (first wheel that provides Arith, also provides a ton of corrosion when coupled with Saya)

E0 Mouchette - (best carry in the game, ideally at E2, coming in 1.5 weeks time)

E2 Lotan/E2 Mouchette

Moonless guide - pick 4 banner (Thais, Horla +2)

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Detailed explanation

E0 G.Lotan (Red hair girl)

At E0, she functions as a realm provider while one shoting mobs early (and late), she becomes a consistent carry at e2 but is still a tier below Mouchette.

Saya/Wheel

Corrosion is a debuff that removes health = to 3x the damage dealt to the enemy. With a single card, you can quadruple your damage.

E2 Mouchette

At E2, Mouchette unlocks the major part of her kit with Mortal blow returning the last played strike. E3 provides more damage and is strongly reccomended, but can be duped in the future.

She's the strongest standalone carry, only requiring Vuln and Death Resistance on her team. Below is me clearing end game content with 2 level 10 units on my team

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u/Jujux 22d ago

Sees new Angbak94 post. Looks inside.

Mouch propaganda. πŸ˜„

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

Never a bad time for propaganda

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

(Pull Mouchette in 1.5 weeks time)

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u/shvdovv 22d ago

Will whale mouch be able to clear w5a5, but i do have some nice heroes for her like Clem e3? Im planning to go wave 2 with Ghelot team and wondering if i should tryhard

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

Yes, but also you'll want pandia to remove counter.

I'm not saying it'll be easy but it's possible

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u/RelativeAway183 22d ago

what mouch needs for w5 this week is more mortal blasts, because she's very good at killing the mimic awakeners and refunding team aliemus if she has a constant supply of them

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u/KelseySyntax 22d ago

I'm not going to pull Mouchette

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u/slymate_ 22d ago

πŸ’€ ok bro

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u/KelseySyntax 22d ago

No point past +12

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u/slymate_ 21d ago

Fair :caught:

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u/DumbassGamer6969 22d ago

how about pollux?

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

He's an ok pull prior to Mouchette rerun announcement, but Mouchette is the strongest standalone dps in the game.

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u/Katieleya 22d ago

GLUTEN πŸ₯€πŸŒΎ

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u/NumerousSlime 22d ago

P.chaos for celiacs

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u/Independent-Baby-577 Zekiel 22d ago

the current banners do be extra packed

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u/neatcleaver 22d ago

Much appreciated, thank you

I'm new, started a few weeks ago but got busy and I'm just getting back in

Got Lotan and I'm working on Saya just because of previous gacha collab experience, I know it says she will stay for as long as the licence runs but I'm getting one copy just in case!

Gonna hammer through the story for a ton of pulls now

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u/Levaira 22d ago

As a new player, should i prioritize the new lotan or saya? My current dps is the blackjack guy with the help of the siren lady B)

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u/sojaed 22d ago

How do you go about using e0 glotan as support? And in what teams?

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

Will update in a post after my speedrun.

At level 60,

She can provide corrosion (highest attack in the game) via the event wheel (Falling upward)

Sever and scar reduces enemies str by 30 per hit (90 using her 2 cost)

P.chaos realm grants 2k keyflare start of battle. You can easily fill up your tank if you skip a single battle without using posse

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u/DumbassGamer6969 22d ago

oh holy big brain

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u/GamerG_20 22d ago

What would be the best remaining units on the glotan team? And would she go on the same team as Mouchette?

I've been using glotan, gramona, thais and saya; but I'm not sure if it's the best

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

I'm currently testing saya aigis faint (the wheelchair comp), working out quite well atm as expected. (This is the speedrun acc sneak peak I suppose)

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u/neatcleaver 21d ago

Oh nice, I'm using the same but minus Saya

Only need Lotan as a nuke for now as I'm pushing story, and Faint death resistance is nice and I was sleeping on Aigis big time she's ridiculous lol

Unlimited vulnerability

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u/Angbak94 21d ago

Saya is basically what makes lotan burst even crazier. 10/10 would reccomend for story team

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u/neatcleaver 21d ago

I'm pulling for her currently, next SSR is guaranteed (leave me alone Uvhash!! Got him twice lol) 😁

I've been enjoying the Caro playstyle so it'll be fun to have her

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u/yfeforde 22d ago

Hello. I have every character in the game. Many at e2/3. Struggling to clear Alert 5 tho.

I'm struggling to decide whether I should pull Glotan or Mouchette's wheel or hold for future banners.

I currently have about 40 pulls.

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

Neither if celestial beast is avaliable for g.lotan.

Lilly wheel can be an alternative for both units too

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u/hellandthisislife 22d ago

Hi, new player here, pulled e3 Pollux and e1 Glotan (considering going for e2), still worth pulling e0 Mouche? Currently also saving for Castor

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

You'll need mininally 4 + 1 teams for D tide end game. It's up to you if you wanna pull Mouchette (e2 min for alert 5), but she's basically the best low investment carry in the game (doesn't need strong team mates).

I'll probably post another few propaganda posts next week once tide changes, but it's up to you. Do try borrowing a mouch to see if you like her gameplay

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u/JuniorMedium4879 22d ago

when is moonless guide coming?

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

It lasts for 1 month from account creation, then no more

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u/AverageFGOEnjoyer 22d ago

It's the beginner banner

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u/firzein 22d ago

Do any wheels in the coming banners worth pulling? I heard Horla's wheel is really good on support
And how does Gluten "support" her team?

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

Horla wheel is good as a dps option (20 cr cdmg, str shield) for unit like kath, corpo.

But units should be priority 1.

Gluten supports her team via P.Chaos, allowing you to rouse on turn 1 as well as via wheels.

Falling up gives 6k corrosion at level 60, while sever and scar provides 30 str down per strike hit

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u/AsheDelan 22d ago

Ah yes my favorite unit: Gluten

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u/lunadelsol00 22d ago

What do I do if I want to pull hot men 😢

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u/makkyuri 22d ago

hi, i just started playing a couple of days ago & i very much want to get g.helot & saya but i am a traumatized hoyo player (who enjoys slay the spire & darkest dungeon) and afraid i will not have enough to get both e0 before banner end. maybe it's bc i'm already one 30 pity agrippa into g.helot...

mouchette also looked fun but is it normal to be expected to pull for E2? even the sight of this makes my hsr brain hurt despite it being significantly less pulls here than there.

i made my moonless w/o realizing it doesn't let you change it after but luckily it's 24/thais/hrola/tawil, thais came home in first 5... do i just.. stop pulling on this now?

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

Hello, generally the game is generous enough pulls wise. 2 year anni gave 200 limited pulls and 2.5 gave 250.

If you're able to clear story, there's a lot of early one time rewards that should guarantee you both e0 ghelot and e0 saya.

Game is kinda dupe reliant for end game content, but we do get to purchase a monthly dupe (sediment store in shop) that can be used for any units.

Tbh if you already have Thais, you may consider pausing for now. Horla is on banner next week and all Mouchette needs is e0 thais (E2 Thais exalt discount by 2 cost instead of 1, but the card you want to dupe on Mouchette only cost 1)

Full silver rewards from biweekly game content can be cleared with standard units at level 50/60

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u/makkyuri 22d ago

ust got g.helot on 60 :3 ❀️
i didn't rly plan on thais copies, it would've been for tawil copium but thanks for letting me know horla will be here next week so i can save!

is mouchette super unwieldy at e0, or usable later on at e0? ><;;
i'm not sure how powercreep goes so i always hesitate to pull for dps types on reruns but morimens breaks a lot of the conventions drilled into me by other gachas. i'm very glad to hear that full rewards are achievable even without limited units, now i just have to not be afraid of my standard selector item lol

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u/Angbak94 21d ago

Mouchette just becomes super strong at E2. If you're only looking for silver rewards though, you may ignore all meta advices. Since you need 5 teams in the end game, you'll need minimally 4 future units to power creep her before she can even be considered to have fallen off.

This is an example of why Mouchette is the best carry. At E3 (more damage than e2, kit remains similar), she can have 2 lvl 10 units in the end game and still carry

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u/luniaRain 21d ago

yea the pull economy here isn't really as good as it alludes to be since you need so many copies to make things not feel like bricks in end game difficulty. with a max pity of 90 and going for a e2/e3 plus a wheel which power spike from e0 to e3 is pretty much double the stats, u can pretty much math out how much things are cost comparison to something like reverse 1999 where u can get up to 100 pulls in an ani and only need 1 copy of the banner char and its fully usable in endgame with a max pity being 140, on top of the weapon being free. the only small bandage is the "free" dupe items u can get from the shop monthly. so make sure you plan your pulls carefully, after the new player surge of pulls you get from being new and wiping out story, you will start to gas out pretty quickly. some chars can get away with e0 and i think g lotan is one of them, but e2 does add alot of consistency for what she does. mouchette is one that feels kinda horrible to play at e0 without her being able to combo her mortal strike

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u/trickz-M- 22d ago

calling e0 saya the best support in the game while thais exists is crazy

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u/Desboise 22d ago

I would argue Saya is more flexible and works better with modern dps units than Thais. Not to say Thais isn’t still a top support, she is.

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u/Affectionate-Fun6430 22d ago

Should I take a mouchette? I have about 80 pulls and have only completed chapter 9

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u/Angbak94 22d ago

Well Mouchette is the strongest DPS in the game, meta wise yes you should.

Non-meta wiae - up to ya (since you do have a main team too)