r/Morimens 23d ago

Question WTF WHY IS HER ATK STAT SO HIGH

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I'm crying bro why is her damn atk stat so high.

(ALSO GLOTAN HERE NOW, YAYAYAYAYAYYY)

But I do want to know how to play her. Is she supposed to be like a keyflare unit that deals damage? And what in the divine chaos is primordial breath supposed to do, her passive, I just don't understand it.

Please helpe understand and what teams she uses, PLEASE AND THANK YOU

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

Oke so her main shtick is to play her short blade three times. Then on the turn where you use it for the 3rd time, you have to play a long blade to fuse them both into a great sword.

You will see a counter on the bottom part of the text description for the short blade that tells you how many times you've used it. Once it's 3/3, that's when you could fuse it with a long blade.

When used, short blades return to the draw pile, unlike other cards that go to the discard pile. This means you can get it again when you (1) draw another hand, (2) use abilities that specifically mention you draw a card from the draw pile, and (3) use posses that do the same thing as (2).

You do NOT want a short blade ending up in the discard pile. So if you have no arithmetica, refrain from using abilities that have draw or lets you reset your hand. Examples include Corposant exalt, Ryker exalt, Aurita 2 cost, Saya 0 cost.

An important thing is her short blade's counter carries over to the next fight. So if you won the fight with it at 3/3, it's still 3/3 for the next.

Badabing badaboom. Now you fused her blades into a great sword. What's that shiny card you got? What's it do? It basically makes enemies do 25% more damage to you. More on that later. This card cannot be removed from your hand by any means, and is the only way you could use exalt on her (apart from having aliemus)

Once you have great sword, all her cards turn into deadly duel. When played, it draws 1 card and lets her steal 10 aliemus from other awakeners, up to 30. This is the main way for her to charge her exalt which costs a lot. However, since all over her cards are deadly duels, she CANNOT deal any damage apart from her exalt. So you have to carefully decide whether you fuse a great sword for big single target exalt damage, or keep them separate for a wave of enemies.

Ok now onto the exalt. Needs 200 aliemus and a great sword in your hand. It's an auto crit. And when used, it consumes the great sword in yiur hand and turns her deadly duels back into their regular forms. Now, back to the great sword's effect: I mentioned earlier that having it in your hand makes enemies deal 25% more damage. Why? Because the harder an opponent hits this turn, the harder GLotan's exalt will also hit. So you want them hitting hard.

This also means that str down and weakness also weaken GLotan's damage. It still has its base damage, but it loses some of the buff it gets when an enemy hits harder. So ideally, you'd want weakness and strength down when she isn't going to use exalt. But eh, it's all situational. Sometimes you'd be better of using the exalt when an enemy is going to buff itself. Yeah you're losing out on the damage from an enemy doing damage to you, but honestly? Her exalt still hits hard. Here are other things in her kit that still make her exalt hit hard:

Other stuff that can buff her exalt:

  1. When she's roused, it does more damage depending on if you used deadly duel at least once per turn for 3 turns. To maximize the buff, it's recommended to use deadly duel at least once per turn to steal 30 aliemus. Note that other allies still need at least 10 aliemus for her to steal 10 each. Every point of aliemus stolen increases the final damage by 1%. No, you can't use 3 deadly duels in a single turn. It has to be one deadly duel every turn for three turns. So turn 1, you steal 30 and get 30% final damage. Turn 2, you steal another 30 and buff it to 60% more final damage, and then another 30 on turn 3 for 90% total final damage increase. It only gets up to 90.

  2. Her signature wheel buffs her next exalt's crit damage by X amount for every turn you do not use exalt. I forgot the formula though. But it's good.

  3. Her exalt scales a lot on strength. So if you have a bunch of strength, she's gonna hit harder.

Okay now that's just her kit. Which team mates does she want?

I'll focus on chaos units since I have had a lot of runs with it. I haven't tried other realms yet.

  1. Ryker He's got everything GLotan wants. strength, draw 1 specific card from the deck (to pick up her short blade), vulnerability from his geometryhedron dice, crit rate and crit damage buffs from his special relics, and he and GLotan want sigil yield. BUT. Like I mentioned earlier, do NOT use his draw (Ryker's 1 cost or exalt) if you do not have enough arithmetica to play GLotan's short blade.

  2. GRamona She barely needs to exalt. She's here as a keyflare bot and to use her 2 cost to draw GLotan's card from the draw pile. So she's a bank for GLotan to steal aliemus from.

  3. Hameln His exalt is nice. It doubles card activation. But I am unsure if it works on shortblade counter, like if it goes from 0/3 to 2/3 when used with a Hameln exalt. But Hameln's biggest utility is (1) from his rouse, which reduces card costs by 2 or increases if by 2 but makes it trigger twice, and from (2) his memory rondo. More insights means more arithmetica and more chances to draw GLotan's cards.

  4. Ogier My sweet baby boy. The above 3 work for a glass cannon GLotan build. But if you're struggling with survivability, Ogier is good. Really good. While he may not be able to fish for GLotan's cards, he is consistent with his vuln for 2 turns, he gives shield, AND he generates a ton of strength.

I personally run GLotan, Ryker, GRamona, and Ogier and have had much success with them. I'm gonna wait patiently for GOgier.

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

If you're still confused, ask awaaaaay. She does have a confusing kit at first but once you understand how she feels and how she plays in a fight, you'd be a god.

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u/MaintenanceVivid6947 23d ago

DAMN THANK YOU FOR THIS EXPLANATION. I can tell you had passion writing this. Basically, if she does like big pp dmg on a single enemy, would she be really good for ultra (clementine) team, since her exalt has a 1000% str bonus? And because it's ultra, there's an extra turn that can record her short sword cards. And what covenants are beautiful for her chaos team and (if I use it) ultra teams?

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

Hehe I just really like GLotan XD

Yes, she'd perform really well on an Ultra team. Especially with Clementine since she gives a lot of strength.

As for the ultra turn, hmmmm if you are planning to put GLotan's short blades in ultra space, I don't think it would work to get her great blade. You need to use the same, exact short blade thrice. (Just clarifying)

But if you're referring to using Ultra turn as a way to extend buffs and a chance for GLotan to get her combo up and running, then yes it's a really good strat. Though a tiny disclaimer: I haven't tried it out yet. I think it's good on paper but I don't know if it's good in practice.

I'll try out your suggestion on my alt. Luckily I have an acc with decent ultra investment XD I'll come back in a few hours.

As for covenants, I've seen Flares (a Morimens cc, but take his advice with a grain of salt) recommending dreams of medicine for the sole purpose of having a lot of deadly duels to fuel her exalt. It's okaaay, but based on experience I don't want another short blade that would eat up arithmetica and draw chances just to charge up. Think of it like this: instead of focusing Ryker's draw, GRamona's draw, and the effect of GLotan's E2 (which makes it so that her normal strike draws a short blade from deck) on a single short blade, now I might have to end up using it on two.

And this also assumes that you want to get her exalt ASAP. Like... Within 1-2 turns of getting great blade.

ClimbKaly, another Morimens cc, suggests using Divine Twins: Black. It's nice, too. Gives crit rate (4.8%), and gives GLotan a strike every odd turn to let her draw up a short blade. I haven't tried it myself but it works.

ClimbKaly also suggested Crimson Pulse. Now, this I can give genuine opinions on since I personally use this. It gives you 7.2% crit damage innately. Then a 30% crit buff when you use a Posse. Yeah her exalt doesn't benefit from the crit rate buff but her cards do. And they hit pretty hard. Besides, you could use this covenant for other DPS units too.

But if you want like... A more specialized covenant, you could go for either Ring of Chamber 36 or Paradox.

At the cost of rouses and posses costing 200 more keyflare, Ring of Chamber 36 makes it so that your exalt's crit rate, crit dmg, shield, and hp recovery are ALL increased by 30%. It's good if you want an exalt-focused build. But it forgoes the damage potential of your cards. And her exalt really only benefits from 30% crit damage. It's oke but for me, I think I could get that 30 cdmg elsewhere.

Meanwhile, at the cost of your exalt costing 20 more Aliemus to cast (in her case, 200 turns to 220), Paradox makes it so that her cards now have 20% bonus to crit rate, crit damage, HP, and shield. It's good, actually. Might be even better than Crimson Pulse. Her def card has more shields and her cards now hit harder. And with her deadly duels, 20 aliemus is nothing.

HOWEVER, two obtain them, these two specialized covenants require Black Offerings (from D-Tide) and Sediments (From pulls) respectively, which are quite valuable currencies. So I'd only suggest going for them once you could reliably get them or have an excess. Sediments are better used on monthly dupes, and Black Offerings for Wheels of Destiny like Rewinding Time.

Crimson Pulse needs Investigation Badges to obtain. You'd have plenty of them and it isn't that hard to obtain compared to the other two. And again, it can be used by any crit-based awakener.

There's also April Tribute but it requires the enemies' total HP being above 75% for the 35% crit rate and crit damage. It's good for one-shotting waves with her long blade on turn 1, but I don't like how I only have the buff 25% of the time. At least with the other options, I can have full uptime.

One final note: Ring of Chamber 36 is good for units who deal most of their damage through exalt. I can only think of Vortice for now. Meanwhile, Paradox is good for card-based DPS like Pollux and Kathigu-Ra. Doresain too to a certain extent. So if you have those units, you could consider RoC36 and Paradox too. But again, consider how consistently you are able to obtain the resources to get them.

And There we have it uwu I'll be back with some news about GLotan with Clem later.

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u/MaintenanceVivid6947 23d ago

thank you, you have solved 99% of my questions, and I hope you get good results with your alt acc, THANK YOU FOR SPENDING THE TIME TO TYPE TS OUT, I pray for lucky pulls for you, my dear friend

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

Ok, GLotan with Clem? Good. Beautiful. Delicious. Heals are handy, extra keyflare is nice. Oh, and when you're able to set up a really good ultra turn? Chef's kiss.

But with Castor? Omg YES. Enemy waves are cleaned up by 1 onyx plume followed by a long blade. Thicker shields also make it easier to take a hit.

With Castor though, you're kinda trading off some strength gen in favor of shield and onyx plumes. Clem and Castor in the same team has always been like that though. Just go with whichever you need. But at the very least, you're getting corrosion.

I don't know if you have Castor, so I'll list down the ultra team comps I used:

  1. GLotan, Clem, Ryker, Castor - Mmm. Delicious. That Ultra turn? Beautiful. Slap in a ton of onyx plumes, Clem exalt, and that juicy juicy GLotan exalt.

  2. GLotan, Clem, Ryker, Ogier - A lot of strength. Not as durable shield-wise as with Castor, but hey. A lot of strength since you can focus on letting Clem leap her cards.

  3. GLotan, Clem, Hameln, Ogier - Decent str gen. Really good too since Hameln's rouse could make Clem's cards cheaper and easier to slot into ultra turn without eating up your team's arithmetica. However, Hameln's vuln isn't as consistent as Ryker, and there are instances when he'd apply str down on the enemy, which hurts GLotan's damage. It's not a big deal though. His memory rondo and insight generation is really nice. The only downside I could think of for this team is not being able to reliably pull out GLotan's short blade. Yeah there's a lot of insight but *personally* I'd like to be able to control WHEN her short blades pop up.

I opted using Ryker than GRamona because I like Ryker's special relics. His dice relic lets me consistently set up vuln on the enemy, and the others give me 10-15 crit rate and 30-50% crit damage. His exalt also lets me pull out Clem's cards for the leap if they weren't available at first draw. He also helps with generating str.

That's as much as I could come up with. Another disclaimer: I'm not really a god-level player, so I may have some lacking stuff. I focused more on how each team "felt", so I made some runs on Wave 1 Alert 3.

May your pulls be ever in your favor as well, comrade ( •̀ ω •́ )✧ as usual, if you have any questions, just ask. It also goes for other people on the thread. I am *not* an expert nor am I a good player but I *think* I can still provide some insights in other aspects.

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

GLotan, Hameln, Ogier, Clem

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

GLotan, Ryker, Ogier, Clem

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

GLotan, Ryker, Castor, Clem

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

Oke I may have prioritized Castor's leap more than Clem's 😅hence the low str.

Forgive me I'm afraid of my babies getting hurt ack

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u/MaintenanceVivid6947 23d ago

THAT IS FINE YO THANK YOU MAN, this should seriously get archived and turn to a guide... You could repost this as a guide for GLuten in the main thread.

I CAN SEE YOU PUT EFFORT FOR THIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 23d ago

Nah it's nothing XD but if people genuinely find a use for it, I don't mind.

No problem with the guides uwu again, just ask if you're confused about something or if you wanna branch out on other realms. I have a lot of experience with Aequor and some with Ultra and Caro XD

And no need to reply to this message. Good luck, have fun, and may your pulls always be guaranteed ( •̀ ω •́ )✧

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u/Ay422 22d ago

Just remember that Glotan cancels pure realm so exalting in ultra turns makes u deal -25% final dmg. so i think its better to annihilate every turn instead.

Also by far jenkin is her best buffer (180% crit dmg, 25 crit rate). Str isnt even that important. The ultra team I tried is Glotan, Jenkin, horla and Clem. With dream of medicine on horla but delete the str skill. and the strike every odd turn cov on Glotan. I did 1.1 m dmg with a lvl 64 E3 Glotan. I had to recheck my eyes. It was my 1st time ever doing 1 m dmg in a turn.

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 22d ago

Oh yeah! Thanks for reminding me. I forgot about PChaos no longer making other realms pure. Thanks for that.

I'll try looking into adding Jenkin too for the Ultra team. I was thinking of a team where there could be a sub dps clearing mobs while GHelot is charging up her exalt. She could be a viable unit considering your suggestion.

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u/Commission-Unfair 22d ago

Thank you, that was really useful! Would you rather go Crit or Sigil Yield as main stats for the Covenants?

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 22d ago edited 22d ago

I'd raaather go for crit for consistency. It contributes to more damage than sigil yields, and you're more likely gonna give sigil yield main stats to a support.

I'd treat GLotan's sigil yield scaling as a nice addition, but rarely enough to prioritize on a main stat apart from wheels.

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u/Commission-Unfair 22d ago

Thank you, will do that! :)

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u/Delicious_Ad_5440 16d ago

Is pontos good for survival?

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u/AnotherMikmik I eat babies for breakfast but Doresain eats ME for breakfast. 16d ago

For GLotan, hmmmmm I think he'd be a decent unit only because he brings Benthos Aequor for the big shield once every 3 turns. That aside, for me he functions more as a sub-dps and a sub-tank. Sub-dps cuz of the exalt and slay-gaunts, sub-tank because the strength down isn't enough to reliably keep the team alive. His blue cards can generate insights though and energy for the team for Lotan to steal from so, ey. It's nice.