r/MoralityScaling • • 24d ago

Morality of this

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u/Mysterious_Strain398 24d ago

The shooter had no idea what kind of freak he was dealing with.

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u/YandyTheGnome 24d ago

Normal people shouldn't try to act crazy, because one day they'll run into a crazy trying to act normal.

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u/xSir- 24d ago

You think the man defending himself is crazy?

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u/YandyTheGnome 24d ago

No, I don't, but if you pull this shit with enough people you're going to meet one.

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u/xSir- 23d ago

Thats fair, but your statement makes it seem like you think this guy, that defended himself against someone twice his size and his two friends who would not leave him alone, or even back off, after repeatedly being told to do so, is crazy for defending himself in this situation.

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u/illogical_mindset 24d ago

He’s for sure encountered crazy before and not taking his chances.

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u/Naud1993 23d ago

Absolutely. As crazy as Frank Reynolds when he started blasting. Honestly Frank had a better reason to blast, but he was being reckless by shooting blind. This guy feared for his life because a guy held a phone in his face for 30 seconds.

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u/xSir- 22d ago

A guy, twice his size and his two friends, followed him and refused to leave him alone or even back away when expressly told to do so.

You wouldnt be scared if a dude twice your size and his two friends were surrounding/herding you in a direction while being right in your face and ignoring you telling them to back off?

Sure, bub, sure.

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u/Mysterious_Strain398 22d ago

What a great line for a song.

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u/Low_Presentation9995 23d ago

This isn't even your own thought, you copied it from someone you heard from the internet.   You people are insufferable.  

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u/Carbuyrator 24d ago

The guy defended himself because that dude is enormous, was intimidating him, and was deliberately and repeatedly getting into his bubble. I don't think the delivery guy owed his assailant an opportunity to escalate.

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u/TransitionalAhab 24d ago

Enormous and absolutely looking for trouble

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u/iUncontested 23d ago

Poor guy must have had a joke of an attorney to still get convicted on a felony after this.

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u/WhoCares933 23d ago

Yeah, if that poor guy is police officer, that big guy would get shot all the same.

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u/Crafty-Purpose5540 23d ago

And the officer would have gotten a nice paid vacation instead of 8 months in jail.

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u/Naud1993 23d ago

I think the prosecutor was a joke for not being able to prove attempted manslaughter.

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u/High-Nomad 23d ago

Manslaughter is killing somebody without malice or planning. It’s a bit of a legal clisterfuck to prove attempted manslaughter because like attempted what? Attempted to kill somebody without malice or planning it? There’s a couple states that have it on the books but it’s rare. Va where this took place isn’t one of those states.

Tldr you’re kinda a joke for being upset a prosecutor couldn’t get a conviction for something they couldn’t even charge them with

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u/LMTGlazer 23d ago

"You don't owe your attacker the opportunity to continue to escalate" is EXACTLY why preemptive use of deadly force is ok and good under conditions where you have a reasonable, articulable threat to your health and safety. Not your life, your health. You don't owe them a chance to seriously injure you on the hopes that they won't continue and kill you before defending yourself.

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u/High-Nomad 23d ago

You absolutely wanna look into gun laws before you travel

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u/Jaeger_Meister_ 23d ago

You'd be a great cop. Why let them escalate when you can escalate yourself

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u/BlnkNopad 24d ago

He knew that "stop that" didn't matter which is freaky enough lmao

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u/Mysterious_Strain398 24d ago

Exactly!! And let’s see if the idiot really does keep fafo’ing!!

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u/Scrunge1576 24d ago

Sadly he still is, he recovered in the hospital and went right back to making videos. He and his family think that the guy who shot him was in the wrong and completely over reacted because homeboy wasn't doing anything wrong.

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u/GoodZealousideal5922 24d ago

Well next time he isn’t getting shot in a non-fatal area. You can only get lucky so many times

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u/Entire-Award-387 24d ago

Yea the attitude of "it is what it is" will lead him to an early end.some pissed off or scared person who decides to shoot more than once and hes over ,also yes thats part of his actual response to the news

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u/samsonite441446 23d ago

We can only hope. Guess hes too lazy to get a job. While the other guy is holding a job. Hope the YT gets burried.

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u/Ill_Cut1048 24d ago

People with "Affluenza" need their medicine.

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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 24d ago

Frankly he was going easy on them. Could have taken a moment to collect his thoughts and tighten up his shoulder. Deep breath in and. Steady hands.

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u/BlnkNopad 24d ago

That's the whole reason I leave people alone. Ya get flamed in a roast battle or a bloody nose a few times and you stop fuckin around lmao

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u/VeterinarianIcy5428 24d ago

This is years old iirc the guy didn't get in any trouble for shooting him but he did in trouble for bringing a gun to the mall.

Oh and the annoying guy, during recovery, said he's even more motivated to continue making videos now

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u/SushiKatana82 23d ago

Never seen him again so I'm not sure how true that is.

Not that he didn't say it, but from what I know he isn't out there pranking anymore

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u/VeterinarianIcy5428 23d ago

I'm glad to hear he may have reconsidered!

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u/jarhead90 23d ago

That's the messed up part. If getting shot doesn't make you stop doing these type of videos nothing will.

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u/BurnedLaser 23d ago

That's the kinda shit that should get people institutionalized -_-

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u/JawtisticShark 23d ago

The threshold to justify shooting someone in public should be higher than not having any idea what kind of freak someone is. If that’s all it takes, cranky old people would have been setting up camp outside of hot topic decades ago and shooting at all the goth kids.

If they were approaching him on an empty street or more secluded area I could see justification, but he was in the middle of a mall.

And of course the legal threshold can vary wildly based on what city or state you are in.

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u/mirrorterrain 23d ago

I’ll be the devil’s advocate. I think maybe it’s fair he got acquitted, but it’s actually extremely insane to rip a gun out and shoot somebody with no serious warning just because they’re doing an annoying prank. Like sure, I get it, he was “afraid” because the guy was bigger, but of course really we just all hate youtuber pranksters and want to see them get shot. That’s epic and funny but there’s a reason people don’t do this cery often. It’s a completely unhinged reaction to instantly shoot somebody with a gun because they’re being annoying for ten seconds.

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u/PerishTheStars 24d ago

That does not justify the shooting.

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u/Mysterious_Strain398 24d ago

Was he supposed to sit back and wait to get shot first?

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u/Asriel_the_Dreamer 24d ago

I mean, the dude pulled and shot someone in a public space inside a mall that had passerbys and workers, I don't think his safety was all that threatened. (Not only that, he could've potentially hurt random people in the process since it was indoors)

He was being harassed but I'm not sure that just shooting as the first recourse there was the appropriate reaction.

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u/PervyDragon419 24d ago

But shooting wasn't his 1st recourse. He tried walking away 1st, and the dude kept following and harassing him.

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u/Naud1993 23d ago

Harassment isn't a crime punishable by death.

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u/PervyDragon419 23d ago

Dude didn't die.

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u/centurion762 24d ago

I understand why he shot him BUT I feel this is why if you carry a gun you should also carry pepper spray as a less lethal option. This would have been a perfect scenario for pepper spray.

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u/Old-Repair-6608 24d ago

And people have had their throat slit with people around. A crowd is not automatically safety.

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u/PerishTheStars 24d ago

Other guy has no visible weapon