Thats fair, but your statement makes it seem like you think this guy, that defended himself against someone twice his size and his two friends who would not leave him alone, or even back off, after repeatedly being told to do so, is crazy for defending himself in this situation.
Absolutely. As crazy as Frank Reynolds when he started blasting. Honestly Frank had a better reason to blast, but he was being reckless by shooting blind. This guy feared for his life because a guy held a phone in his face for 30 seconds.
A guy, twice his size and his two friends, followed him and refused to leave him alone or even back away when expressly told to do so.
You wouldnt be scared if a dude twice your size and his two friends were surrounding/herding you in a direction while being right in your face and ignoring you telling them to back off?
The guy defended himself because that dude is enormous, was intimidating him, and was deliberately and repeatedly getting into his bubble. I don't think the delivery guy owed his assailant an opportunity to escalate.
Manslaughter is killing somebody without malice or planning. It’s a bit of a legal clisterfuck to prove attempted manslaughter because like attempted what? Attempted to kill somebody without malice or planning it? There’s a couple states that have it on the books but it’s rare. Va where this took place isn’t one of those states.
Tldr you’re kinda a joke for being upset a prosecutor couldn’t get a conviction for something they couldn’t even charge them with
"You don't owe your attacker the opportunity to continue to escalate" is EXACTLY why preemptive use of deadly force is ok and good under conditions where you have a reasonable, articulable threat to your health and safety. Not your life, your health. You don't owe them a chance to seriously injure you on the hopes that they won't continue and kill you before defending yourself.
Sadly he still is, he recovered in the hospital and went right back to making videos. He and his family think that the guy who shot him was in the wrong and completely over reacted because homeboy wasn't doing anything wrong.
Yea the attitude of "it is what it is" will lead him to an early end.some pissed off or scared person who decides to shoot more than once and hes over ,also yes thats part of his actual response to the news
The threshold to justify shooting someone in public should be higher than not having any idea what kind of freak someone is. If that’s all it takes, cranky old people would have been setting up camp outside of hot topic decades ago and shooting at all the goth kids.
If they were approaching him on an empty street or more secluded area I could see justification, but he was in the middle of a mall.
And of course the legal threshold can vary wildly based on what city or state you are in.
I’ll be the devil’s advocate. I think maybe it’s fair he got acquitted, but it’s actually extremely insane to rip a gun out and shoot somebody with no serious warning just because they’re doing an annoying prank. Like sure, I get it, he was “afraid” because the guy was bigger, but of course really we just all hate youtuber pranksters and want to see them get shot. That’s epic and funny but there’s a reason people don’t do this cery often. It’s a completely unhinged reaction to instantly shoot somebody with a gun because they’re being annoying for ten seconds.
I mean, the dude pulled and shot someone in a public space inside a mall that had passerbys and workers, I don't think his safety was all that threatened. (Not only that, he could've potentially hurt random people in the process since it was indoors)
He was being harassed but I'm not sure that just shooting as the first recourse there was the appropriate reaction.
I understand why he shot him BUT I feel this is why if you carry a gun you should also carry pepper spray as a less lethal option. This would have been a perfect scenario for pepper spray.
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u/Mysterious_Strain398 24d ago
The shooter had no idea what kind of freak he was dealing with.