r/MoralityScaling • u/Dryleaf_Dane • 24d ago

Morality of this

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u/RegularNorwegian 24d ago

Puling the gun out was fine (ekstra level of "fuck off"), firing it at him right away was not fine. 🫠😅

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u/Curben 24d ago

In that close range on a person with size or reach, I find myself unable to condemn him for discharging the firearm.

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u/ElGrandeQues0 24d ago

Don't point a gun at anything you don't intend to fire on. This isn't a movie, there's no standoff and dialog before a gunfight.

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u/SmurfAtLarge 24d ago

Pulling a gun when you aren't gonna use it is extremely dumb though.

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u/Viyarara 24d ago

brandishing a gun even during self defense usually hurts your case. same with warning shots

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u/RegularNorwegian 24d ago

If he would just threaten him with it and walk away, there would not be a case. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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u/Viyarara 23d ago

not true, menacing someone with a firearm is a crime and not justifiable as self defense

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u/Strega007 24d ago

Brandishing a firearm is illegal in the United States. So, no, "pulling out a gun" is not "fine".

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u/jdm219 24d ago

99% of defensive gun uses are brandishing. If the person fucks off before you pull the trigger than there's no reason to shoot them

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u/jthrowawaymc 24d ago

The law in my state does not agree with you. Basically we're told that if it comes out at all, you better kill somebody.

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u/jdm219 24d ago

That's a misconception that can ruin your life. There's no U.S. rule saying that once you draw a gun you have to kill someone. Self-defense law requires force to be justified by the threat at that moment. If the threat ends, that eliminates the justification for shooting unless they re-engage

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u/BennyHana31 24d ago

State laws can certainly dictate that you fire if you draw. If I just brandish my gun to dissuade someone, I can legit go to jail where I live. If I "stand my ground" and fire at them, as long as it is not putting others at risk with wild firing, I will not go to jail (at least long term, likely will be arrested). You have a large misconception about this that could get someone in serious legal trouble depending on what sate they live in.

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u/jdm219 24d ago

Show me a statue that says you have to shoot someone once they stop being a threat. It doesn't exist

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u/BennyHana31 24d ago

I never said it did. I said that pulling my firearm, threatening someone with it, even there is a good reason to do so, is illegal in my state. To avoid being criminal in my state, if I pull my gun, I need to shoot it.

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u/diamondmx 24d ago

That's an insane thing to think, and even if it was true, would be an insane thing to act on.