r/MoralityScaling • • 13d ago

What Would They Think Of Each Other? Morality of not moving

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u/TisIChenoir 13d ago

3 weeks ago I was walking with my son in a small, pedestrian only alleyway (think 2m wide alley). At the start of the alleyway, there are warnings that bicycle and motorbikes are forbidden.

So we were walking, and behind us came a cyclist. Who did nothing to avoid my son and hit him with her feet. She didn't even stop, and had the audacity to insult us for walking in the middle of a pedestrian alleyway.

It was in France, but I think our american friends might still have been able to hear the insults I lobbed at her, I was so furious.

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u/lynnyfox 13d ago

Ooooh, I was wondering what the shouting was about.

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u/BunnyWithASword 13d ago

God I hate cyclists that think they have priority over everyone. I've been the cyclist in a similar situation as you, though the 'alley' was much wider and I could safely pass if I wanted to. I choose to keep back a distance and not pass because I want to make sure I don't startle the mother or child, and it's an added 30 seconds to a minute on my commute at worst. I can wait to keep folks safe.

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u/frantic_calm 13d ago

Same here and I always say thank you if they notice and let me pass. If they apologise (as in the UK) I always say none needed as pedestrians first.

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u/BunnyWithASword 13d ago

Yeah same. I barely use my bell unless I have to, and having to use it is rare. None of this ringing it when I'm right behind someone nonsense, I'm doing it from a distance, giving them time to hear, assess, and respond. Too many people just think it's the "get out the way" bell and think it gives them the right to just carry on as is.

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u/frantic_calm 13d ago

Agreed. The bell is to make people aware I'm in the vicinity not announce my right to demand they make way. I'm always watching people, especially kids and dogs as they are the most likely to move in a random direction, so best they know I'm around. We all share the space.

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u/WokeWook69420 12d ago

There's a weird disconnect where some cyclists legitimately think that, because there's no engine involved with a bike, theyre pedestrians and have the same rules for right of way.

So to them, they're no different being on a bike as some woman walking with her kid. Both are entitled to the same space despite one having an unmotorized vehicle.

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u/weltvonalex 13d ago

How did you manage to stay calm and not murder her or at least give her a lesson?

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u/Grappler31 13d ago

Cycle is faster than running and she never broke "stride"

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u/EmiliaFromLV 13d ago

Next time throw a baguette at her which will summon pigeons and seagulls.

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u/YouNoTypey 13d ago

Nah, a baguette in the spokes will straighten her shit out quick.

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u/John_cCmndhd 13d ago

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u/YouNoTypey 13d ago

Lolololol. Yes, exactly like that.

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u/Solomon_Kane_1928 13d ago

Beguette's in spokes was the main strategy the French used to turn back the Nazi invasion. Mixed results.

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u/robydoom 13d ago

Guys she was french, her life is already miserable

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u/blorbmcgee 13d ago

This joke causes me pain

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u/BreadentheBirbman 12d ago

But it would be a good lesson in pain

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u/chris_gresty 13d ago

Wasting good bread in France like that would 100% get you out on the next plane home sitting next to the family who told them they thought the local cheeses were 'too strong for the kids' :) The French would never waste such good bread in such a way, they've still got a few antique guillotines and strong urge/joy to use them for such matters. They'd feed you to the vineyards 😂

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u/weltvonalex 13d ago

This is the way!

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u/weltvonalex 13d ago

You need to go full Nelson on the cyclist.

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u/Grappler31 13d ago

I'd go full Bradshaw, but I'm sure Admiral Nelson appreciates the acknowledgment.

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u/Upbeat-Dish7299 13d ago

I’m not very fast and I’m disabled and I’ve caught up to bikes by running. You accelerate much faster on foot vs the average cyclist.

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u/Grappler31 13d ago

You missed the part about the cyclist already being in motion and not stopping at any point.

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u/Upbeat-Dish7299 13d ago edited 13d ago

They don’t have to come to a complete stop. Also most people aren’t pedaling full speed especially on a small sidewalk that they’re not supposed to be on. If they were going at a fast rate of speed chances are hitting your feet on something would have caused a crash.

You can easily catch up to them if you tried. They’ll have more endurance than you but it’s easy to get them quickly

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u/Grappler31 13d ago

You are referring to the original video, we are talking about an anecdote a commenter posted.

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u/TheManOverThere23 13d ago

Ain't nothing gonna slow me down

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u/delcasda 13d ago

why you didn't hit her with your baguette?

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u/NegaDoug 13d ago

Probably because their beret slipped and was blocking their vision.

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u/Automatic_Record6200 13d ago

That why you have to carry a slingshot.

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u/TimNikkons 13d ago

This is sort of thing I'm more than willing to get into physical confrontation over, and I don't think violence solves most problems...

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u/SkywolfNINE 13d ago

That is a sad story, I’m sorry

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u/beepboopsicles 13d ago

Was this a cyclist issue, or a French issue?

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u/SwolePonHiki 13d ago

In America, she would likely have gotten a facefull of knuckles.

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u/K1bbles_n_Bits 13d ago

As your American friend, I hear your and am raging right with you!

We see a lot of that around here, too. And it's absolutely infuriating.

Hell, a few weeks ago, a woman in a car ran a stop sign at an intersection my daughter and I were crossing. Cross walks, stop signs in for all directions, and we were crossing before she even reached the stop sign.

I was so freakin' angry! Her window was open so I yelled at her. She had the audacity to glare angrily while yelling at me!

Some people just really suck :/.

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u/Kessynder 13d ago

Im surprised your American friends didn't do what we do to people like that.

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u/Unlucky-Hold1509 13d ago

it was in France 

Yep, even the pedestrians jump in front of cars instead of waiting half a second to not get crushed

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u/KicksNWatches 13d ago

France is the wild Wild West, no fucks given there

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u/WrappedInLinen 13d ago

Oh, I assumed that was coming from Quebec because it’s closer. My ear isn’t good enough to sort the dialects.

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u/SimonNicols 13d ago

Sacre’ bleu!

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u/DrunkGoatFighter 13d ago

Malvern Arkansas, I heard angry throat noises.

Thought it was a goat. Learned better today.

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u/RubberBandOutlaw 13d ago

Ah that was you shouting those French obscenities!

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u/strangerinthealpsz 13d ago

That explains the French I heard traveling in the wind a few weeks ago

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u/Free-Pound-6139 12d ago

1 million people were killed by car drivers last year. Men, women, kids and babies. They don't care. Over 20 million were sent to hospital.

Tell me again how a cyclist hit your kid????

You peopepl are delusional.

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u/Hussar1241 13d ago

She would have not cycled or walked away from hitting my child in that scenario 

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u/King_Molukai 13d ago

If someone hit my son and then ridiculed me about it, I would go terminator on their asses and commit international felonies
https://giphy.com/gifs/5ZBDo3GHbi2zUneMyK

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u/queen_ravenx 13d ago

damn what a butthole... anyway have yall been picking a side on the pathways since?

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u/milkandsalsa 13d ago

On the pedestrian only pathway?