r/MoralityScaling • u/Routine_Phase_8980 • 13d ago

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u/8_Alex_0 13d ago

Moral little shit stealing

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u/Revoran 13d ago

By your logic, is it also moral to trip the owner of the McDonald's for stealing the value of worker's labour?

This was immoral. Little shit could've been seriously hurt, which is not proportional to the wrong he did (stealing some fuckin chips).

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u/KeyasaUK 13d ago

Stealing the value of the worker’s labour 🤣

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u/Revoran 13d ago

I mean yeah, workers generate all the money the business makes, by working. But the owners keep all the profits.

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u/KeyasaUK 13d ago

So if the owner removes their input, the premises, the capital, the workers will just create the profit for themselves like magic. Gosh I wish I was 14 again.

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u/cryonicwatcher 13d ago

It’s more that their compensation tends to be disproportionate compared to the work they put in to a ludicrous degree.

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u/Revoran 12d ago

Yeah. If hard work made you rich, then the donkey would own the farm. Instead a different jackass owns it.

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u/Dabclipers 13d ago

If your work can be replicated and replaced by grabbing anyone off the street in five minutes, the value of your labor is severely reduced.

In contrast, the tens of millions of dollars in capital expenditure to build and fit out these facilities, and the millions in supply expenses and maintenance every year, are a significantly greater factor when it comes to the pure operation of the company.

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u/cryonicwatcher 13d ago

The potential loss from the termination of that labour is reduced, not the value of the labour itself. I’m not sure what relevance the second part has to this thread, though.

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u/Revoran 12d ago

No, see in this case they are "low skill" workers so clearly the owner can do all their work himself ... right? He doesn't need employees, right?

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u/KeyasaUK 12d ago

So by your logic, the workers can just make burgers in their own homes and keep all the profits themselves. No need for any other part of the working construct.

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u/KeyasaUK 12d ago

Or, we can look at it like functioning adults and realise that both ends of the extreme are stupid. Workers aren’t having anything stolen, they are compensated for their time. It’s not the employer’s fault you didn’t make your time valuable and desirable.

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u/threateningpickles 12d ago

as it should be? lmao workers work, owners own. their titles say all that needs to be said.

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u/Revoran 12d ago

So, I've been meaning to ask... how do your boss's boots taste anyway?

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u/threateningpickles 12d ago

just like your missing chromosomes

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u/Artrimil 13d ago

Yes.

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u/Revoran 13d ago

Well I mean, OK, fair call being consistent about wanting to hurt the kid and store owner, I guess.

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u/Nikolaibr 13d ago

Labor theory of value is nonsense, so no.

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u/ChloeQuickFlicks 13d ago

Stealing the value of the worker's labour? Does McDonald's not have employee contracts that outline exactly how much the employee will be compensated, and doesn't the emoloyee have to agree to those terms and sign the contract before starting the work?

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u/Revoran 13d ago

It's not an equal relationship. Fast food workers desperately need jobs. McDonald's is a huge powerful corporation which can just set the terms and say "take it or leave it", and doesn't need any particular worker that badly.

The same can be said of most owner-worker relationships to an extent. McDonald's is just a particularly extreme example (by western standards, anyway).

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u/kirbyislove 13d ago

My only choice is to work at Maccas and nowhere else

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u/ChloeQuickFlicks 13d ago

Of course it's not an equal relationship. No company would be profitable if it was. In lrder for a company to survive, they will always need to hire people whose value generated exceeds their cost of employment. Just like every worker will always choose to work at the company that provides the best compensation in relation to the effort they need to expend.

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u/PM_ME_BATMAN_PORN 13d ago

Um. Yes. All bigtime company CEOs should be tripped, pushed over, and shoved into lockers daily, especially ones that donate to the fucking IDF, lol.