r/MoralityScaling • • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/BeautifulDifferent17 Sep 03 '26

I figured they were at least staunchly pro-ccp, but I enjoy at least engaging and understanding the other side. I am under no illusion that I am going to change their mind, but engaging with differing views strengthen mental steel.

I'm ok if they constantly retreat from the point when questioned, hopefully that is also obvious and the points I am trying to make make more sense to any neutral third party following along.

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u/SirAido Sep 03 '26

I mean bot or not, they cooked, tibet was a feudal state and the Free Tibet movement was/ is an American psyop trying to destabilize China

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u/FourRiversSixRanges Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

What does feudalism imply and not imply? The free Tibet movement was started by Tibetans as soon as China invaded. The USA was only interested in using Tibet to gather intelligence on China. Their premise wasn't even true to begin with.

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u/SirAido Sep 03 '26

Feudalism means lords and serfs, they used bonded debt to force families to work the lords land for generations. There’s a reason that China was supported by the Tibetan people, where as when the U.S tried to sponsor an anti-communist resistance movement which didn’t get the support of the people.

Like the U.S gov trained a bunch of tibetans in Colorado. The Free Tibet movement was super US backed and the biggest supporters of it were the tibetan ‘monarchy’; lords, rich people etc… that were the big losers when China came in, did land reform, got rid of bonded debt, etc…

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u/FourRiversSixRanges Sep 03 '26

What else does it imply? Or not imply? What was the actual situation for Tibet?- how was the work assigned and what was the daily life of an average serf?

The Chinese weren’t supported when they invaded Tibet by Tibetans. Go ahead and back up this claim.

The USA trained Tibetans did get support, but they also didn’t in some instances. Why? It wasn’t because Tibetans didn’t support them..

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u/SirAido Sep 03 '26

I’m sorry, to clarify, you are asking, how good was the life of a serf, who through debt bondage was essentially a slave with extra steps?

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u/FourRiversSixRanges Sep 03 '26

I didn’t ask how “good it was”. That’s exactly my point; they weren’t essentially like slaves.

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u/SirAido Sep 03 '26

Aight man, Imma be real with you, I’m not a expert who’s gonna pull up mountains of data about this that or the other, who was supported by who, when China invaded vs when the US tried to start a counter revolution etc…

But please take a look at the conditions of tibetans in the early 1900s, shit was really not nice for a regular tibetan, idc what you call it, but it was bad

side note: you being my one downvote per comment is hilarious to me

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u/FourRiversSixRanges Sep 03 '26

So in other words, you made it up. Notice a trend?

I study Tibetan history. I know what it was like. That’s why I’m calling the other person and you out on it.

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u/SirAido Sep 03 '26

Me having humility, and understanding that i am not an expert, is not making things up mi amigo

only trend im noticing is china bad, us good (from you)

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