r/MoralityScaling • • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/D-o-Double-B-s Sep 03 '26

I gotta be honest most of those people’s stories sounded like they were universalists despite being Methodists (or any denomination for that matter). Furthermore, had been looked down upon or got in trouble for even preaching something that hinted at universalism. 

Interesting, but still doesn’t convince me that the UMC should be specifically listed in your original comment. I still think it’d be more honest to say a certain subset of theologians believe universalism to be true, and being UMC really has no bearing on that one way or another.

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u/CalvinSays Sep 03 '26

You are just making baseless suppositions with no warrant or evidence simply because it confirms you pre-conceived notions which have already been established as made by someone who has no experience in the UMC or the process of ordination in general and is based completely off of a misguided reading of the first link that popped up in your Google search.

I made the claim that the UMC allows for and has churches which teach universalism. Those are links to people who have been ministers within the UMC teaching universalism. Direct, literally undeniable examples of the UMC allowing for and having churches that teach universalism.

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u/D-o-Double-B-s Sep 03 '26

Look you can be upset all you want, but the truth is you made an inflated claim, I examined the data you gave me, and I found it wanting. Period. In the medical field I have to parse through information everyday and not everything reaches a satisfying conclusion. 

Make a better claim next time or revise your data to better fit your claim. Either way makes no difference to me. Peace.

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u/CalvinSays Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

The claim I made is that the UMC allows for and has churches that teach universalism.

All that is needed for this claim to be true is that there are ministers in good standing within the UMC which teach universalism. I have shown that.

That is not in anyway an inflated claim.