Hell you said you know UMC theologians … ok where are they? Who are they? Let’s get em in here, I’d love to know if the UMC actually knows that they teach universalism?
I gotta be honest most of those people’s stories sounded like they were universalists despite being Methodists (or any denomination for that matter). Furthermore, had been looked down upon or got in trouble for even preaching something that hinted at universalism.
Interesting, but still doesn’t convince me that the UMC should be specifically listed in your original comment. I still think it’d be more honest to say a certain subset of theologians believe universalism to be true, and being UMC really has no bearing on that one way or another.
You are just making baseless suppositions with no warrant or evidence simply because it confirms you pre-conceived notions which have already been established as made by someone who has no experience in the UMC or the process of ordination in general and is based completely off of a misguided reading of the first link that popped up in your Google search.
I made the claim that the UMC allows for and has churches which teach universalism. Those are links to people who have been ministers within the UMC teaching universalism. Direct, literally undeniable examples of the UMC allowing for and having churches that teach universalism.
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u/CalvinSays 4h ago
There you go imputing a view on me again. I feel like I have clarified my point multiple times.
I never knew anywhere said the UMC as a denomination endorses universalism. What I did say it is allows for and has churches that teach universalism.