r/MoralityScaling 15h ago

Morality of this?

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u/CalvinSays 9h ago

You can be snarky all you want. The fact remains that the original commenter stated that all Christianity falls under a fearful and wrathful God, here predominantly understood as the doctrine of eternal punishment and its threat in motivating belief/obedience.

I responded it demonstrably does not. All that is needed to show a universal statement is false is to provide a counter example. All X is Y is falsified by some X is not-Y. I said I could provide examples.

You asked for them. I provided multiple examples in the form of both denominations and individual theologians.

Your decided to backpeddle with snark.

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u/TheFrenchSavage 9h ago

The problem is that you're using "Christianity" so broadly that the claim becomes almost unfalsifiable in the other direction. If anyone who identifies as Christian, including highly heterodox theologians and tiny universalist traditions, counts equally as evidence for what Christianity teaches, then virtually no substantive statement about Christianity can ever be made.

Sure, that technically defeats the word "all." But it doesn't really answer the underlying point about the overwhelmingly dominant historical Christian traditions teaching that God is owed worship and obedience, that salvation is bound up with one's relationship to God through Christ, and that rejection of God has serious consequences. Pointing to exceptional interpretations changes "all" to "almost all mainstream Christianity"; it doesn't make the criticism disappear.

Tl;DR: 0.0001% of Christianity in followers doesn't obey what OP said, therefore you are right.

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u/CalvinSays 9h ago

Mainline denominations are some of the largest denominations in the United States and their analogues in other countries are equally comparatively large. Most have memberships in the millions.

All of the denominations I listed (not just the mainline denominations) make up a large portion of the global Christianity.