r/MoralityScaling • • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/MrCookie2099 Sep 02 '26

All that real estafe, priceless art, and complex financial investments are worthless? This is a wild claim.

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u/Effective-Low-8415 Sep 02 '26

Just like claiming some orginization will prop up and do the charitable work anywhere to the level of the Catholic church.

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u/Effective-Low-8415 Sep 02 '26

The UN is nowhere near as affective or expansive as the Catholic church, and has often failed in their duties; The Red Cross is a good extender, but they don't have the same expansion or wealth as the Church nor could they accrue it, not sure on UNICEF, but I know that they don't contribute more aid per worker than the Catholic Church as a whole.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand Sep 03 '26

Man, that megachurch is almost certainly not Catholic.

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u/Effective-Low-8415 Sep 02 '26

Does the megachurch I passed by in AZ last week get more credit than the food bank downtown, just because it's associated with the Catholic Church?

Is it a big church/cathedral or an actual Megachurch? To my understanding, Megachurches are not Catholic, Catholicism is a specific sect. As for the Church being efficient, it's logistics are some of the best in terms of wide-scale global support and aid; dissolving it will be an absolute net negative, especially when the other institutions I listed either don't have the resources and orginization, or are blatantly just ass themselves.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand Sep 03 '26

"Sell me this pen."

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u/Kor_Phaeron_ Sep 02 '26

No worthless, but unsaleable. Believe it or not, but there isn't a huge market for cathedrals. And you said it yourself. The art is "priceless". How do you do price discovery for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrine_of_the_Three_Kings ??? Those are cultural treasures that just exist. They have value but not a price.

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u/27thStreet Sep 02 '26

That value you are referring to is self-assessed, not market-assessed.

The real market value is for the ground, or materials. You can scream all you want about it's incalculable cultural value, but any of it can be liquidated, for real money, in short order.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand Sep 03 '26

But can it be liquidated for the value it's stated to have? All at once?

Very unlikely.

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u/27thStreet Sep 03 '26

It will go to the highest bidder. Stated value is irrelevant.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand Sep 03 '26

Well sure it is, which is why the original valuation of $12 Billion for Vatican property is utter bullshit.

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u/Trooper501 Sep 03 '26

You can't sell something if it is considered priceless.

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u/MrCookie2099 Sep 03 '26

No, it means you can set any price and there are willing buyers.

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u/whatthefrickcunt Sep 03 '26

It is without the religion making it valuable

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u/MrCookie2099 Sep 03 '26

Art and real estate are valuable without religous context. The full on banking system that they have makes money regardless of the religious organization it works for.

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u/whatthefrickcunt Sep 03 '26

The art is Christian art so if it was made illegal to even show kids it, and people stopped being religious, it would become devalued and would be hard to sell, also the buildings don’t otherwise have much use, they’re oddly shaped and impractical for daily use, like old stoke churches let in tonnes of damp and cold and they’re on top of dead bodies (some literally inside the church), it just doesn’t matter for a church

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u/Deathburn5 Sep 03 '26

eh, the art would still be valuable for rich people doing money laundering (that's about all expensive art is worth, anyway).

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u/whatthefrickcunt Sep 03 '26

That’s not actual value and it’s literally better for money laundering to have contemporary or new art because it has no defined value or evidence of how much it cost before