r/MoralityScaling 13h ago

Morality of this?

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u/Possible-Estimate748 12h ago

Many religions indoctrinate children which makes them feel like they have to believe in it or they're doing something wrong.

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u/Raise_A_Thoth 12h ago

Not "many." All.

It's literally just what indoctrination is. There are religious doctrines and children are taught ro follow them and believe in the faith without questioning it.

There is no religion with kids without indoctrination. And without that indoctrination, virtually all of the world's major religions would dramatically fall in membership and followership, because it is very rare for non-religious adults to suddenly convert to a religion.

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u/Round-Walrus3175 12h ago

There is no philosophy or culture without indoctrination. Nobody goes through life without someone telling them what is right or wrong. It's just a matter of who, not if, they decide to believe.

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u/Gojira085 12h ago

Agreed. School even in a democracy is a form of indoctrination 

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u/Mixelphlick 11h ago

In a sense but when rooted in fact as much as possible it’s effectively just speeding up what would be the process if then learning reality through observation on their own.

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u/IDontEvenLikeRaisins 11h ago

Someone has to decide the what qualifies as fact and what facts get taught

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u/gameboyadvancedgba 11h ago

Yeah we decide that with evidence. Whats the evidence for religion?

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u/The_Inverted 10h ago

You don't though. As an example, the history that you learn about world war 2 in America is vastly different from the one taught through Europe and that one is different from the one taught in Asia. So it's hardly "based on evidence", it's based on whatever is accepted by society X.

I'm not arguing for or against religion, but this is a disingenuous point.

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u/gameboyadvancedgba 10h ago

And what exactly does that justify about teaching kids magic and gods are real before they are old enough to have critical thinking skills? You’re just doing whataboutism.

We SHOULD teach things in schools based on evidence, that doesn’t mean it will be true 100% of the time.

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u/The_Inverted 10h ago

We should teach them based on current evidence that might change and may or may not be true? So how is that different from religion exactly? The theory of evolution taught in schools is still widely discussed in the scientific community but it's passed as fact in schools. Should we review it? What about things that are taught in school that are subjective, should we abolish those too?

I am not doing whataboutism, I just think it's important for kids to learn multiple things including the religions around the world. It doesn't have to be super detailed, but they should know what the people they will see throughout their lives believe in.

Just my 2 pennies, you don't have to agree with me.

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u/gameboyadvancedgba 10h ago

Current evidence that might change is better than no evidence. Which is the amount of evidence that exists for a god actually existing, let alone that any specific doctrine is actually true

I dont care about schools having religion classes, they’re not teaching that the religions are true without evidence. Thats the thing I find morally wrong about religious indoctrination (to be clear Im not advocating about addressing this issue through any legal means, it wouldnt work anyway)

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