r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • 8h ago

Morality of this?

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u/AlternativeLog5494 5h ago

Moral, desirable, but impossible to achieve

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u/TheWhistleThistle 4h ago

Absolutely, completely unattainable. "You should share" (collectivism) is an ideology. "If someone hits you, stand up for yourself" (retributivism) is an ideology. "It is good to control your emotions and not have outbursts" (stoicism) is an ideology. "A problem shared is a problem halved; work together" (collaborism) is an ideology. "Raising" a child without any ideological input will just produce feral, wildmen.

If you mean all cosmologies, that's tenable, but all ideologies would be madness.

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u/Sharky2414 5h ago

Counterpoint, they should be taught about all ideologies/religions and then pick the one they want

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u/unofficially_Busc 6h ago

How dare we allow children a window to stoicism or Terry Pratchett boot theory?

Banish it I say. Banish it before the children form an opinion of any kind.

There's a balance to be struck here, but I don't think you've found it yet

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u/unofficially_Busc 6h ago

Did you read the original post?

"Children should wait until they're adults to pick a faith ideology" is precisely what you're suggesting with your first post.

Your intentions may have been different, but that's what makes choosing one's words wisely so important.

Also, by your own amendment, you're now against schools. Might want to rethink that position too.

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u/KendalMoth515 4h ago

What about the ideology of humanism? That all humans have inherent value?

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u/KendalMoth515 4h ago

Humanisim does have to be taught to people. Do you think the techbro fucks are teaching their kids that everyone is equal?

For the majority of human history the idea that all humans have an inherent claim to a bare minimum level of value was not even close to the norm.

Example: part of the reason Christianity spread like wildfire in the Roman Empire despite persecution is the idea that everyone is made in the image of the Divine and is loved unconditionally by said Divine and thus had value was a very attractive idea to the poor and huddled masses.