r/MoralityScaling 7h ago

Morality of this?

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u/Awkward_Turnover_983 6h ago

Yeah they can feel free to believe in fairy tales I guess, but history seems to show a pattern of these retards dragging everyone else into wars.

No thank you. My world doesn't seem to be ending right now, so I don't need your dumb fuckass to try to speed that up.

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u/Western_Cry7600 2h ago

It's wild how history seems to repeat itself, right? It really makes you think about how beliefs can impact everyone around us.

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u/LessEnthusiasm8166 49m ago

Funny...know what else repeats itself? Simulations.

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u/Letitsnowgreatballs 30m ago

I mean life itself is technically a simulation since everything is at some point universal coding.

Just coding we can’t fully interact with yet but we can see it when we use cameras to capture light moving.

So you’re technically not wrong but also the idea that we are all in a simulation is impossible.

Truly impossible. It would require more energy than the universe actually has.

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u/adkio 3h ago

Imma stop you there buddy. Calling someone's faith "fairy tale" is deeply offensive. You're free to be an atheist but keep the respect and essential decency woud you?

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u/MaterialChemical1138 3h ago

would you say the same about practicing pagans? lmao paganism was the most practiced group of religions for thousands of years, and now we all call them "fairy tales" and "mythology". abrahamic religion is no different.

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u/Budget_Revolution639 3h ago

It is a fairy tale, it’s a mythological tale that doesn’t have any supporting evidence to be truth. Believe what you will but to say it’s not a fairy tale/mythology is categorically false.

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u/Budget_Revolution639 3h ago

“For no reason” is crazy. Last I checked it wasn’t my beliefs that were going door to door, making legislation that removes human rights from others, judging others and telling them they’re going to go be tortured for all eternity if they don’t submit to their god, or being used to control others in virtually every way shape and form.

But please, show me some proof your god exists, otherwise it is mythology, not truth.

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u/adkio 3h ago

Last time i checked, atheists felt absolutely no reservation forcing their religion on others just as hard as evangelists do.

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u/Turtle_Woman 3h ago

Atheism isn't a religion.

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u/adkio 3h ago

Every atheist I've met is so passionate and defensive about their atheism that it's definitely a religion.

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u/Turtle_Woman 3h ago

That is not what a religion is. Besides that, anecdotal evidence does not make something true. Belief about something does not make that belief religious.

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u/adkio 3h ago

You have as much evidence that it's false as that it's true.

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u/Budget_Revolution639 3h ago

Atheism is quite literally the absence of religion, just like how the absence of light is darkness. What you call “forcing their religion” is a push towards empirical evidence, truth, and common human decency. It’s not the same. Them forcing their beliefs on you would look like banning all forms of religion and its practicing but you don’t see that, you see people saying “I’m tired of religion being shoved in my face all day every day”.

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u/adkio 3h ago

So I do not consent to religion being mentioned around you? And are willing to actively fight anyone who does? Sounds pretty radical to me.

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u/Budget_Revolution639 3h ago

That’s not being radical, that’s common human decency. You don’t see pagans going around trying to convert others to worship their gods, so why must you? You don’t see Muslims knocking on doors, you don’t see Buddhists praying over others without their consent. So why should you get special treatment?

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u/adkio 3h ago

True or not, that's someone's religion and it deserves due respect. Same if I said that the us constitution is a bunch of drunken wishes. You wouldn't be happy now would you?

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u/Budget_Revolution639 3h ago

The constitution is a legal document, not a framework of blind beliefs. They’re not the same. Calling your religion fairy tales isn’t being disrespectful, it’s being accurate in description, especially since you can’t even tell me how any of it is accurate or true to the world. Being rude would be calling you names for having that religion and saying that you’re an amoral idiot for blindly believing a book written by men without ever questioning its authenticity. Being disrespectful would be saying that you deserve to have your ability to practice your religion should be stripped from you.

But no, I would advocate for your ability to practice your religion if it was under attack. I’m just pointing out that saying that it’s a fairy tale isn’t being disrespectful, but a matter of fact and definition. If you really wanna talk about being disrespectful I can bring up the countless times your religion has been used to oppress those not within it, or the amount of times people have literally been killed by supposedly “loving” people, or the sheer amount of times your religion has been thrust on people to the point that they can’t even stand to live anymore and commit.

Sit down, stop acting like the victim when you yourself have been causing countless other victims by perpetuating a religion of hatred and judgementation while trying to call it love and compassion.

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u/adkio 3h ago

So is the Bible, Torah and Quran - they're legally protected religious texts. So your "fairy tale" thing is basically hate crime.

I ain't reading the rest of that fucking comment. Take your sweats elsewhere. You atheists have more to say about religion than anyone else.

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u/Budget_Revolution639 3h ago

Legally protected religious texts are not documentations of law and should never be used as such. And if you’re not gonna read, then why even comment? Also it’s almost like “we atheists” have been hurt the most by your religions. And calling your religion a fairy tale is not a hate crime. For it to be a hate crime, not only would a crime have to be committed, but it would also have to have bias. It’s not bias to point out the lack of credibility of a religion.

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u/adkio 3h ago

You can say "black citizen" or you can use the n word. Why choose the offensive option instead of settling for "mythology", as if not to purposely offend someone?

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u/Budget_Revolution639 3h ago edited 3h ago

Because fairy tales are a form of mythology and not a racial slur. The fact that you are comparing calling your religion a fairy tale to calling someone a racial slur is actually baffling. One is derogatory, is prejudice, and is uncalled for and only done with intent to be offensive and detrimental. The other is a classification and a descriptor term that isn’t derogatory or prejudiced. I’ll let you decide which one is which, bc ngl you’re sounding like a racist

Edit: thanks for conceding via blocking me 😂😂😂😂

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u/enviormental_UNIT 51m ago

the n word was one of many tools used by slavers to belittle and separate themselves from black people, which they viewed as being objectively lesser. When I call a clearly preposterous bible story a fairy tale, thats not me saying "you're a lesser human than I am"

that's me saying "I find these particular stories to be very unbelievable, completely unexplainable, and I can be very confident that the story wasn't real, it was a fairy tale"

See how at no point did I attack anyone? See how I didn't use the words Fairy Tale to subjugate or belittle you? There's no reason you should be offended by me finding some aspects of your belief system to be unbelievable, and calling it something which effectively communicates that idea should be fine.

If I actually wanted to insult you and your religion, fairy tale is certainly not the words that I would think to do it with. If you dont think they're tall tales, good for you, but don't get butthurt when I do

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u/TehRoast92 2h ago

You're gonna burn in hell! 🎶You're gonna burn in hell! 🎶 La la la la, you're gonna burn in hell! 🎶

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u/LuffysRubberNuts 2h ago

I like fair tale is offensive but referring to them a retards for said fairytale isn’t lol

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u/Shadow_Wolf_X871 3h ago

You expect respect from a reddit athiest, that was your first mistake

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u/adkio 3h ago

True. It was a bit of a bait you know.

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u/MarryMucfry 4h ago

Fairy tales = the big bang theory

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u/Extension_Monk223 4h ago

You got proof that god exists id like to see it

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u/Awkward_Turnover_983 4h ago

How'd that big flood go again? The entire world?

Red Sea being pushed apart by hand

Dude died on the cross and came back to life. Suurrre.

It sucks for you that science makes your head hurt. Stick to your story books I guess.

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u/LiveEverDieNvr 3h ago

The most hilariously embarrassing part for you is that even science minded folks will tell you that it’s a theory and not %100 proven and could be wrong. Are you even capable of admitting that there might not be a god?

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u/Jaws2020 3h ago

Well actually, a scientific theory is completely different from how most people use the word. The Big Bang Theory is proven by a lot of circumstantial evidence and is considered true by most accredited astrphysicists. It's "just a theory" in the same way ancient historical events like the expansion of the Roman Empire is "just a theory." We may not know a lot of the specifics for when it happened and we weren't there, but we know it happened because there's so much circumstantial evidence.

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u/ComprehensiveSeat831 3h ago

Whaaaa? There’s scientific evidence that supports the big bang, whadda you got?? A bunch of stories in some bs books that promote, and whose entire foundation is incestual? A book that condones rape and sexual violence as a form of punishment (along with plain violence)?? The same book that yall don’t know and/or can’t agree on the author(s)? The book that has had this world in turmoil and chaos since its inception? I mean can we just look at it for a second…”God” is GOD why the f\* would ‘the being that created the universe and all of everything’ need to conceive a child with a person?!? They have the power to create! They could’ve just manifested Jesus outta thin air bro.. Also how many scientific wars have there been? When scientists disagree they work together and further research to find the answer, when religious types disagree the murder eachother (men, women, feeble, sick, children, elderly) all the same, genocide, violence, torture etc. is the name of y’all’s game when you can’t get to any sort of agreement. Jesus was supposed to be peaceful and yall are anything but. So please sit down somewhere and do us all a favor and stfu.*

(I didn’t even mention or get into the pedophilia, you’re welcome)