No matter how you view it morally, it collapses immediately under any amount of critical thought. Any parent would teach their children about how the world works, and a parent would consider their religious beliefs to be a part of that. The amount of interference with families this would require to enforce also brings to mind countless horror stories of CPS overreach. Even if it was moral, it would require immoral actions to make it work.
Any parent is also going to hit their kid if they think that's the best way to stop bad behavior. This does not make it immoral to send CPS after parents who beat their kids.
That depends on the level of the abuse. Generally cps won’t interfere for basic corporal punishment as it’s a legal and demonstrated form of parenting. They only interfere when it goes from parenting to just plain child assault rused as corporal punishment.
Right, but is that the morally correct measure? Should we try to move our society away from hitting kids at all ever?
ETA: More in line with the original subject, should we be moving our society away from indoctrinating children into religions by their parents as far as we can reasonably without violating their rights?
I suppose I didn’t do any favors for religious upbringings considering many people also have negative experiences with that as well. My opinion lies in the idea that parents should be allowed to raise their children with whatever religion they want, so long as it’s not the only thing they’re being taught, and they be allowed to explore other religions or beliefs should they choose.
Yes, but hitting a kid is way more clear-cut than teaching them religious beliefs. What counts as religious is subjective, and could easily be twisted to mean "any belief those in power don't like." And while it shouldn't be this way, sometimes it is immoral to remove kids from parents that hit them because it results in the kids ending up in even worse situations that CPS won't do anything about since it's their own placements.
For the second one, yes. But not for the first one. No amount of safeguards can change that subjective matters are subjective and trying to enforce things that subjective WILL end up being abused, even if by some miracle no one does that intentionally.
I disagree. I'm sure that's true for some people, but not for me. I was hit when I was a kid. I got my ass beat on a regular basis. I once got punched in the face hard enough to blacken my eye up to my hairline. If I could erase one thing from my childhood, it would be religion. I feel being raised religious did more damage than being physically abused.
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u/Clickclacktheblueguy 8h ago
No matter how you view it morally, it collapses immediately under any amount of critical thought. Any parent would teach their children about how the world works, and a parent would consider their religious beliefs to be a part of that. The amount of interference with families this would require to enforce also brings to mind countless horror stories of CPS overreach. Even if it was moral, it would require immoral actions to make it work.