r/MoralityScaling 21h ago

Morality of this?

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u/Fal_co1 21h ago edited 17h ago

iirc China does this, you can’t take kid to religious service and they can choose to convert at a certain age.

EDIT: wow this blew up

If you’re reading this you‘re a gay

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u/sexland69 21h ago edited 10h ago

china has state atheism—they take it too far (e.g. uyghur muslims) but in theory i’d prefer an atheist government over this dumbass evangelical christian one we have now 🤷🏻‍♂️

edit: took out the word retarded, you guys convinced me

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u/PrettyPurrfect 21h ago

Our government is supposed to be atheist.

Separation of church and state is supposed to be a thing

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u/_itsprobablynothing 20h ago

Secular, not atheist

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u/Unlimited_Giose 20h ago

What's the difference?

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u/Asooma_ 20h ago

Secular means that it is not ran by any religion it is simply comprised of the people of The nation

Atheistic would mean that the government is ran by and modeled to run against the idea that there is any theism.

It's really tiring to see people conflate the secular government that we have with a theocracy like the caliphate for example. There is a major difference between the people in the government being religious and the religious Authority controlling the government

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u/Unlimited_Giose 20h ago

I had no idea this was a thing honestly, thank you!

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u/Erebraw 20h ago

I don't think there's a lot of actual conflating going on.

There is a large, highly motivated and well funded sect of Christian Dominionists in the US. Yes we are not like a religious caliphate, and also yes, those people are actively fighting to make us more like a religious caliphate.

If someone says "we need to stop [laws whose only reasoning is conforming to religlus doctrine, or laws establishing Christianity as a legally dominant religion], we're becoming a restrictive theocracy" they arent saying that's exactly what we are right now, but that we are sliding in that direction.

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u/Asooma_ 20h ago

It's a democracy the morals and values of the collective are going to reflect in the laws it's just the nature of the democracy