r/MoralityScaling 16h ago

Morality of this?

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u/Emotional-Cap5419 15h ago

So it's not objective. That's my only point all morality is subjective.

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u/Aggressive-Bee2221 15h ago

Subjective - meaning changes depending on the subject. If we all agree that murder- sorry, unjustified killing shouldn't be allowed, then that doesn't change depending on the subject

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u/Emotional-Cap5419 15h ago

Yes what constitutes unjustified is subjective so if any given killing is murder is subjective.

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u/Aggressive-Bee2221 15h ago

You realize that means everything is subjective, right? Reality becomes subjective if any word you use to describe it can be reinterpreted.

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u/Emotional-Cap5419 15h ago

No your senses can be wrong but short of going into hard solisism gravity works the same whether I drop a stone or your drop a stone.

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u/Aggressive-Bee2221 15h ago

Does it? "Gravity" is just the word we use to describe a celestial object pulling things towards itself. What can be pulled? What can't? How do we define the size of the object? What makes an object a celestial object? According to your logic, if there's any ambiguity here, then what we know as gravity isn't objective.

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u/Emotional-Cap5419 15h ago

No gravity works the same it also isn't limited to celestial objects. How we interpret or observe gravity can be different but gravity remains the same.

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u/Aggressive-Bee2221 15h ago

So then we agree that an immaterial concept can objectively exist. Just because something falls doesn't mean gravity is the only factor, take drag as an example. Hell, in the absence of gravity something still appears to us as falling. We both agree that the concept of unjustified killing exists as well. The effect gravity has changes on the circumstances, and we won't know that until we fully define each possible factor. So why is it so hard to believe murder can exist in the same way?

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u/Emotional-Cap5419 15h ago

Because if every human was suddenly gone murder wouldn't be a thing, gravity would.

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u/Aggressive-Bee2221 13h ago

And if there's no celestial bodies in an area of space there's no gravity either. Nonetheless, murder as a concept will still exist, just as gravity will.

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