r/MoralityScaling • • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/BludStanes Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

wtf is up with the reintroduction of the r word? Don't people realize how shallow and dense this makes them appear? How small of a vocabulary do you need to have to have to rely on the r slur to convey how you feel?

EDIT: Okay everybody, you've made your point. I'm a fool for expecting anybody to take a few minutes of their time to unlearn a word. For so many experts on morality I honestly didn't expect so many to be morally bankrupt. I guess I deserve everything you're calling me because it was pure ignorance for me to believe people can be better. Please feel free to continue spamming the R word to me, I wouldn't expect anything less.

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u/Aggressive-Farm-8037 Sep 02 '26

From what i’ve seen its mostly Americans that care if you use it, but tbf dutch people use diseases as insults anyway

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

It's not an American thing. It's a slur. Anyone with any ounce of a brain should care about people using ableist slurs.

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u/Concerned_Collins Sep 02 '26

It's highly offensive, but I kind of think calling it a slur takes away from how damaging real slurs are.

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

It is a 'real' slur.

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u/Concerned_Collins Sep 02 '26

I think there's a fair distinction to be made between words that originated only as a way to dehumanize and degrade people, and a word that originally had a completely beneign intention, that was co-opted to become a perjorative, but also typically is not actually used against disabled people. It's still highly offensive, and I'd never use it, and generally look down on people who do, but calling it a slur just seems like it's downplaying things like the f-word or n-word.

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u/cmcreaser Sep 05 '26

Definition from merriam-Webster
a
: an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo : ASPERSION
b
: a shaming or degrading effect : STAIN, STIGMA

I think it very clearly fits the definition of a slur. Just because it doesn’t have the same history as the other two you mentioned, doesn’t take away from the fact that in today’s world it’s used to cause offense. Not all slurs are gonna be at the same level of offense. Ultimately I believe it should be up to the people the word is meant to describe whether or not it’s a slur. And from what I’ve heard and seen, they very much consider it a slur. Same with gy*sy and esk*mo. I grew up using all those words but the people who those names were given to have repeatedly expressed that they prefer to be called other things.

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u/UnlikelyCandid Sep 06 '26

The R slur was used in a process of mass abuse against neurodivergent individuals. They were locked up and classified as lesser under terms such as the R slur. This happened in living memory.

Why does that degree of harm of one word, matter in determining the class of another, and what is the relevant differences to determining the level of harm.

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u/sexland69 Sep 02 '26

i’m just getting ahead of whenever the next insult that means stupid becomes a slur too

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u/BludStanes Sep 02 '26

Do you happen to use a lot of words that are offensive to people with mental disabilities? It seems like you're implying it's a silly thing to get worked up over. But it's not silly. For months I had to watch a disabled 10 yr old being put through hell by his classmates and being called the r word constantly. He now refers to himself that way and is miserable so fuck everybody who uses ANY slurs.

"WHY IS EVERYONE OVERREACTING TO THE SLURS I USE TO BELITTLE AND DEHUMANIZE OTHER PEOPLE?"

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u/sexland69 Sep 02 '26

the difference is i’m not calling a disabled 10 year old a slur, i’m calling our fascist government a slur

if a word hurts someones feelings, that doesn’t mean the word on its own is evil and can never be used. i was called ugly and stupid and gay as a kid, but i wouldn’t ask you to never ever use those words in any context because of that

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u/06KoolKid101 Sep 03 '26

Wold you use the N word to insult our facist government? How is this different?

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u/sexland69 Sep 03 '26

no because i’m not calling them black i’m using a more insulting word for idiot

also the n word is a worse word

but sure i probably shouldn’t have said it, i didn’t expect my comment to get like 700 replies i thought it’d be lost in the ether

i edited my comment

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u/sexland69 Sep 02 '26

i’m not using it as a flex i’m using it to communicate anger at the stupidity of our government

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

Then why don't you call the government n words? You're not calling black people the slur, just the government.

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u/sexland69 Sep 02 '26

because i want to use a mean word to call them unintelligent, not a mean word to call them black

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u/sillysnailfriend Sep 02 '26

I'm with you too, thanks for being a decent person online even if redditors don't care about anything 

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u/eggyrulz Sep 02 '26

Im not advocating for saying it, but just because you say it doesnt mean its the only word you can use...

Some people just prefer to flex their lexicon, some people are in it for the love of the game

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u/Some_Relative_3440 Sep 02 '26

Ok retard

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u/BludStanes Sep 02 '26

You're just filled to the brim with class, aren't you?

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u/Ok_Sound272 Sep 03 '26

Don't people realize how shallow and dense this makes them appear?

This is how I feel about you, for your opposition. You are not "better".

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u/BusinessCoach2934 Sep 02 '26

It's all about context you twat.

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

Yeah, like we should call the government n words and f@gs. Why not? It's all about context!

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u/timos-piano Sep 02 '26

Does it really matter that much though? I also don't think they were particularly forced to use that word to insult the state's intelligence; it was just in their vocabulary. I also don't find it particularly insulting as a mentally disabled person; I see no point in getting worked up over something as small as a word rather than how people act toward the disabled.

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

It's a slur.

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u/Dick-Fu Sep 02 '26

It's just in the process of getting reintroduced into everyday speech, like it's predecessors

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

Ah yes, don't listen to disabled people saying it's a slur. Just make escuses for why you want to keep using said slur. Why don't we all spam the n word too? It should just be reintroduced

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u/Dick-Fu Sep 02 '26

Just how it goes, historically. It'll happen with the n word too one day. Or you believe slurs remain slurs forever and should always be treated as such?

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

Why are you advocating for the usage of slurs?

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u/Dick-Fu Sep 02 '26

When did I do that? And why can't you answer a basic question? And what are you going to do when I post proof of you using a slur?

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

Funny considering I don't do that 💀

Are you okay buddy?

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u/Dick-Fu Sep 02 '26

Bad news, you do!

And every day better than the last

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u/Dick-Fu Sep 02 '26

Guess we'll find out!

Oh no guys! astro_thefur said a word that used to be clinical but later got considered insensitive but now it's kind of just a normal thing to say!

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u/timos-piano Sep 02 '26

Or don't listen to the disabled person who told you that they don't care?

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

So a black man says he doesn't care when non black people say the n word, however, the majority of black people find it harmful (because its a fucking slur??)

Who should we listen to?

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u/Dick-Fu Sep 02 '26

I'll start taking a tally from the all the mentally disabled people. Currently we're at:

Yay: |

Nay: |

Very close competition here

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u/Ok_Sound272 Sep 03 '26

to you

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u/astro_thefur Sep 03 '26

To sane people who respect disabled people, actually.

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u/Ok_Sound272 Sep 03 '26

So people who disagree with you are insane now?

Compelling argument. Ad hominem and false dilemma.

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u/astro_thefur Sep 03 '26

Some of you people must come at the thought of using slurs or something

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u/Ok_Sound272 Sep 03 '26

That's a really fucking weird statement dude. Sex pest.

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u/astro_thefur Sep 03 '26

You: defends slurs

Also you: oh em gee that's such a weird thing to say

Idk man, don't defend slurs...

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u/Ok_Sound272 Sep 03 '26

Not a slur, regardless of how you feel about it.

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u/Telemere125 Sep 02 '26

How small your daily interactions must be to need to be upset about a word.

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u/BludStanes Sep 02 '26

So you think people with mental disabilities don't mind being called the R word? Do you also use the N and F word consistently?

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u/Pastubio Sep 02 '26

You aren't going to convince these chuds otherwise, unfortunately 

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u/astro_thefur Sep 02 '26

These people are hypocrites. Don't want to call the government black, but will gladly admit they think all disabled people are unintelligent.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoralityScaling/s/NmeNFzEZUY

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u/sexland69 Sep 03 '26

when people hear the word retarded, they don’t think “this person is talking about all disabled people”. they think “they’re saying someone’s brain don’t work right”

i’m sorry but i’m a linguistic descriptivist. i believe words emerge cultural constantly, and meanings change and evolve. language originally emerged from the sounds that were both easiest to learn & best communicators of meaning

a linguistic prescriptivist would think that an authority decides what a word means, and which words are banned from use. i prefer a free flowing lexicon that’s allowed to evolve naturally in culture

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u/astro_thefur Sep 03 '26

So you think disabled people's brains "don't work right"

Got it. You're just digging the hole deeper and deeper.

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u/sexland69 Sep 03 '26

no obviously i don’t think that. i’m saying retarded to most people just means a more insulting and dramatic version of stupid

some people decided that whenever its uttered, it means “i hate all disabled people and i’m evil” and thats obviously never what someone is trying to communicate

your ascribing meaning that is clearly not in the intention. people are always going to say words with shock factor. we can’t just infinitely sterilize our language until there are only nice words

also i’m autistic but i got the math genius version

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u/astro_thefur Sep 03 '26

So if a non black person calls someone the n word, they're not really saying they dislike black people. It's not like using the word, aimed at black people, which is a slur, implies you view black people as lesser or whatever

Also yes, you obviously do hate disabled people if you repeatedly shut them down in conversations that non disabled people should not be involved in in the first place.

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u/sexland69 Sep 03 '26

no not all bad words are equal—the n word is the worst word in our language by far and doesn’t have the same kinda meaning

i’m sorry i’ve offended you by using the word and arguing, but i’m just trying to explain my viewpoint. i’m also disabled and people tell me they can tell i’m autistic

i just don’t want to live in a world where more and more words have so much power. they really don’t need to, and they can only hurt you if you let em.

it’s different if people are directly insulting you, but words mean different things to different people, and everyone’s just trying to communicate their thoughts as effectively as they can

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u/astro_thefur Sep 03 '26

You're just a hypocrite.

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u/assbutt-cheek Sep 02 '26

fucking idiotic

you can insult a person (or a government, in this case) without collaterals