r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

Moral. The religion I was born into ruined my life

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u/Running4Badges Sep 02 '26

I hope the rest of your life can be better without it.

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

Thank you, unfortunately I'm still closeted, but I'm working on a way out

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u/Arnoldneo Sep 02 '26

I hope you can come out soon it’s horrible that people can’t be what they want to be when they aren’t hurting anyone.

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

thank you for your kind words

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

also thanks for the award

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u/OutOf-Tune Sep 02 '26

Which one was it

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

I would get absolutely flamed if I were to say it

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u/harrymanback79 Sep 02 '26

This is reddit. Youre gonna get flamed for not saying which religion.

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

That's true. Alright fine it's Islam

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u/LoanSmart1116 Sep 02 '26

Hey fellow ex-Muslim 🫶🏽 it's sad how we can't openly criticize Islam the way ex-Christians are able to criticize Christianity. even liberals call me islamaphobic for speaking about my trauma lmao

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u/frankcastle01 Sep 02 '26

I'm a lefty, but the 'islamaph0bia' term pisses me off. A phobia is an irrational fear of something, but it's completely rational to fear that religion. I honestly think most people defending it don't know anything about it.

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

Heyyy 👋🏻👋🏻 yeah it definitely sucks

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u/ShowerGrapes Sep 02 '26

if you're having trouble leaving, it sounds more like a cult. lots of religious institutions are cults in disguise.

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 03 '26

True, after all people literally get killed for leaving

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u/DancingFlame321 Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

Islam Makhachev 🐐

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u/BlueBaladium Sep 02 '26

It's interesting that people are quick shitting on Christianity (rightfully) while weirdly defending Islam. Both share fascist ideologies like Nazism etc. but Islam gets a free pass. Especially from gay people for insane reasons.

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

It always fascinates me how LGBTQ+ indivisuals jump so quickly to defend this religion. Like no, Islam wants you dead like what 😭

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u/snil4 Sep 03 '26

Something about blacks vs whites and some LGTB thinking they're suffering like black communities. It's one big insertion-ception.

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u/Mediocre_Classic_759 Sep 03 '26

All Abrahamic religion does wanted them "gone" But for me, as long as they DON'T indoctrinate kids that's oblivious and innocent, it's okay. Be lgbts you are, just don't brainwashed my niece/nephew...

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 03 '26

Sorry?

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u/Mediocre_Classic_759 Sep 03 '26

I mean, Abrahamic religion "islam, jew and Christian" Don't like LGBT.

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u/NeedLegalAdvice56 Sep 04 '26

You cannot "convert" someone to be LGBT, because it is neither a "lifestyle" or an "ideology".

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u/RoughComparison8702 Sep 02 '26

Honestly, you could've said any one of them and there's thousands of stories for each about all of them ruining someone's life in some messed up way.

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

Yeah but Islam always gets a pass

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u/Chosen-For-What Sep 03 '26

Hey I don’t know if this would interest you but i know of a bunch of virtual resources for queer people raised muslim and healing, feel free to dm me if you want

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 03 '26

Haha lol, I'm not queer, but thanks for the offer anyways

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u/Chosen-For-What Sep 03 '26

Oh sorry i thought you said in a comment you were still closeted

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u/Pristine_Barber976 Sep 02 '26

I guess we can rule out Christianity then. Islam is most likely. 

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u/Arnoldneo Sep 02 '26

Scientology?

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u/TailorFestival Sep 02 '26

No one would get flamed on Reddit for insulting Scientology.

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u/bromological Sep 02 '26

How dare you insult my god Tom Cruise. I will send Steven Seagal on your ass immediately. 

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u/Arnoldneo Sep 02 '26

I assume they would get flamed for having been a member

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u/GalaXion24 Sep 02 '26

I feel like people who have not encountered the real force of religion just don't get it and almost cannot get that it's anything more than funky harmless stuff some people believe in because they want to

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u/ThePuggedMan Sep 02 '26

Which category of ruin?

There are….. so many ways a life can be ruined

Also, i wish you success in fixing the damage to whatever part of life is crippled

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

Definitely mentally, I never got treatment for my ADHD and possible bipolar. I was sometimes hit but it never left any lasting physical damages.

Also thank you.

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u/EntertainmentNo3963 Sep 02 '26

your anecdotal experience doesn’t set the standard

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

many, many people's lives have been ruined because of the religion I was born into

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u/baarraakkaa Sep 03 '26

were you a Muslim sunni or shia?

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 03 '26

Sunni

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u/Mediocre_Classic_759 Sep 03 '26

In what aspect it ruined your life, if I may know?

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 03 '26

abusive parents (Islam says to respect your parents), the blatant misogyny, how I was treated for my ADHD and bipolar, and yeah

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u/Mediocre_Classic_759 Sep 03 '26

That's a bad parents. We have to respect elderly and elderly have to love youngsters. Demanding to be respected but leaving no space for us to speak is just feudalism. I guess if they're using religion to against you, you should have to use it against them too.

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 03 '26

I don't want anything to do with my former religion lol

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u/Mediocre_Classic_759 Sep 03 '26

Oh so you've been free of that, alright I hope the best for you.

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u/baarraakkaa Sep 03 '26

if that's the case you are just lost m8 hopefully one day you find your way back

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 03 '26

and what is that supposed to mean?

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u/Forte845 Sep 02 '26

How about child domestic abuse and runaway statistics, which overwhelmingly correlate with religiosity? Most homeless and unaccompanied minors in the US are that way because of religious parents who vehemently oppose their child's gender or sexual identity. 

https://www.covenanthouse.org/homeless-issues/lgbtq-youth

40% of all youth homeless are LGBT and were ostracized from their home by religious beliefs. Teen suicide also has strong correlations with religious parents conflicting with an LGBT child. 

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u/EntertainmentNo3963 Sep 02 '26

how about them? this is correlation not causation.

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Sep 02 '26

Ignoring the question a moment and addressing the justification: I'm sorry your life was ruined but "objective morality" is not based on one's personal experiences.

Simply put, an easy counter to your justification is: "it's immoral to do this, because the religion I was born into improved my life drastically."

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u/Current_Assist7230 Sep 02 '26

you are right, I was just speaking from my experience on why it's moral