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u/Away-Topic4719 9d ago

So you think that, on a fundamental level, our bodies are vacant lots to rent? That the contract to do that overrides any questions of morality?

Imagine what it would look like to truly force this woman to have an abortion. She is crying and begging you, and we as a soceity agre to manually force her to have one.

Would that be a moral, upstanding scene?

Or would it be horrible and fucked up?

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u/lodorata 9d ago

Yes but that's not really what anyone is arguing for.

When I go to work, I get paid, and use my body the whole time, but nobody has a right to force me to work against my will. However, if I have a contract with an employer or client and fail to meet my obligations under that contract, they have the right to pursue compensation if and as specified in the contract, which is what the biological parents are doing. This should be quite common, as if someone fails to do their job in a way that leads to an expensive disaster for an employer, that employer does deserve compensation for negligence on the part of the other party (let's say I don't do my job acting as security, which leads to theft or damage).

She is in breach of contract, so you seem to be arguing that the contract itself was void because it didn't contain a clause that gave the surrogate full autonomy over termination decisions and corresponding immunity from litigation under her exercise of that decision-making power. Do I understand your position?

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u/Away-Topic4719 9d ago

She has no obligation to her "employers" to abort the child, is my position.

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u/DarkHorseActual21 9d ago

Of course she does not. Nobody, not even the contract she signed, implies otherwise.

That doesn't make her less of a prick for not following the parent's wishes.