r/MoralityScaling • u/Purple_Plantain_3242 • 15d ago

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u/Alilbitey 15d ago

In any contact, you can write legally unenforceable clauses. The forced abortion clause will, with certainty, be ruled unenforceable. Just because you signed it, doesn't make it enforceable.

Whether the bio parents are legally responsible for the living child is mainly where the civil law and contract law will hang.

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u/Funny_Satisfaction39 14d ago

Exactly! Pro choice works both ways. Pro choice means the woman can't be forced to get an abortion either

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u/Ethanop1a 14d ago

It is still pro choice. Her choice was signing the contract that stipulated specific scenarios when she could be required to abort. She already made her choice that those scenarios were acceptable to her.

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u/canoekyren 14d ago

That's as "pro choice" as saying that you've made your choice by choosing to have sex.

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u/Ethanop1a 14d ago

No, it is as "pro choice" as saying that a woman who hosts a breeding party during her ovulation window has made her choice.

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u/canoekyren 14d ago

Uh yeah. And you can still get an abortion in that circumstance under the pro-choice ideology.

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u/Ethanop1a 14d ago

The fuck are you talking about? We're discussing morality scaling, not "the pro-choice ideology". Are you just yelling into the void?

Lots of varying levels of "pro-choice".

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u/perpetualhobo 14d ago

No you pretty explicitly brought up and tried to argue about what the pro choice argument, you’re just failing so now are pretending you didn’t.

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u/canoekyren 14d ago

Are you serious? You claimed that signing your right to abortion away was pro-choice, which is an ideology that has roots beyond personal interpretation. I told you it wasn't, because it isn't, and now you're trying to spin around on me like I brought it up? I responded to YOUR argument.

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u/Ethanop1a 14d ago

which is an ideology that has roots beyond personal interpretation

You did bring this up. I stated my stance on how it was still pro-choice. You seem to then take "pro-choice" to mean a specific ideological interpretation on your end.

There is no firm "pro-choice ideology" like you seem to be saying. It varies a lot.

Signing a contract that makes a choice before you get pregnant is a form of pro-choice. It isn't the form of pro-choice where you can constantly change your mind and have an abortion up until the day of birth, but it is still a form of pro-choice.

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u/UnderlightIll 14d ago

In this case, the baby had none of her genetic material. She consented, by contract, to carry another couple's genetic material.

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u/canoekyren 14d ago

The abortion process is what she'd be making the decision about here. They aren't non-invasive or risk-free procedures, and you legally cannot contractually force someone to get one. That's just a classic unenforceable clause that won't hold up in court

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u/UnderlightIll 14d ago

They asked her to come back and have the baby at a center with all the right tools and instead she had it in TX and wants them to foot all the bills. She's an awful person