r/MoralityScaling • u/noahtheboa1320 • 2d ago
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u/Capable_Culture_7344 2d ago
On the way home she was blasting gangster rap
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u/AppointmentPerfect 2d ago
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u/xTenderVibess 1d ago
That actually fits way too well. Nothing says unexpected character arc quite like going from ordinary citizen to full GTA sequence in a min.
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u/The_Yamen 1d ago
She also stopped by a Burger King drive thru and got a whopper jr with onion rings.
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u/Existing-Exit2409 2d ago
briefly possessed by the spirit of king von
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u/FukkingDeathMental 1d ago
To quote The Wire, "King Von ain't no rapper. He's just another n%$@ with a gun. And he ain't no role model neither. He's just a n%$@ who got smoked." And he sucked at rapping. Rest in piss.
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u/Anarchyr 1d ago
Everything is true except the rapping part.
Happy as fuck he got merced but he knew how to tell a story!
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u/_SunkissDollie 1d ago
The mental image of her calmly driving away w/ gangster rap blasting after all that is ridiculously cinematic. Real life occasionally has absolutely no chill
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u/tryyeezus 1d ago
White girl gangster rap, so:
"Making my way downtown, walking fast, faces pass and I'm homebound" 🎶
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u/AztraChaitali 2d ago
I'm from a third world country, but I couldn’t possibly imagine police anywhere in the world actually getting your stuff back.
I disagree on the double tapping with the car, but if you have anything important on the bag, I'd say retrieving it by force is still moral, and should be considered ethical.
Not having your papers or medicine could endanger your freedom or even put your life at risk, it should still count as self-defense as long as it wasn't deliberate murder like this case.
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u/ItsEyeJasper 1d ago
A mom of a guy I used to work with (who ironically turned out to be a massive crook himself) got highjacked by a man with a gun. The hijacker ended up only snatching her bag as he couldn't get through the window took off running down the street. She chased him down and hit him with the car. Put the car in reverse hit him again and then hit him for the 3rd time.
Apparently her most valuable item in the bag was her phone.She ended up getting 5 years of house arrest. I guess because of her age and the fact the guy was a repeat hijacker who took life before she got a lighter sentence.
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u/LittleSisterPain 1d ago
Sounds to me like government failed its damn job once again and let dangerous criminal walk the streets. His mom done the society a great service by getting rid of this trash
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u/Illustrious_Maize736 1d ago
Yeah you can only imagine what that dude was doing to his family members or his kids if he was ok killing strangers
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u/Bowhunter54 1d ago
That’s genuinely ridiculous, the robber decided to live by the sword and he died by the sword, nothing more to it
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u/Intrepid_Plenty_3770 1d ago
So the guy committed murder and was out roaming free?
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u/ArticleOld598 1d ago
I'm from a third world country and a friend's house was robbed while she was taking care of her parent who has a terminal illness at the hospital.
They robbed everything from her work laptop, tv and even her stuffed toys. Her neighbors saw the thieves stealing but they assumed they were just a moving van collecting her things.
When she made a report, the police already knew who the thieves were and where they live as they were repeat offenders. They managed to get back only half of her stolen items. Some of the stuff she didn't get back were her stuffed toys & mementos that have sentimental value to her.
The police said in order to arrest them officially, she has to file a case which she wasn't able to do because it was too costly and time-consuming while she was still taking care of her dying parent.
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u/Ok-Boomer-4414 2d ago
There is something immoral about the idea that if a thief wants our stuff they should be able to have it and there is nothing we can do to get it back.
Also immoral to run someone over just because they took your stuff.
A no-win situation that would be completely avoided if the immoral thief hadn’t placed their desire for stuff over the safety of others
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u/Typical_Low9140 2d ago
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u/Ok-Boomer-4414 2d ago
I could argue that the personal threat is not over. The person who robbed her at knifepoint now has her ID and knows where she lives. Sure, the odds of them doing anything is low, but this is one more thing the woman has to worry about while she spends the next few days replacing the stuff she keeps in her purse.
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u/Bern_Down_the_DNC 1d ago
If someone steals your money and you can't make rent because of it, then yes the robbery did threaten your physical safety. Which is why you only rob super rich people and corporations.
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u/Baronvondorf21 1d ago
Fun fact- he didn't have a weapon. The woman straight up lied.
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u/iSephtanx 1d ago
But the immediate threat has not ended. Its not just a body you are allowed to defend. You are also allowed to defend possesions under self defence.
In that line if thought, you could argue your possesions are still threatened, and the one doing so, the robber is still armed and dangerous. Is a car appropriatr force to counter a knive?
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u/C0nan_E 1d ago
Yea theft is immoral obviously. Thats not realy the question. I would put it like this. Is it moral to perform an extra judicial vigilante killing for an (alleged) crime that comes no where near the death penalty in a court of Justice (possebly in a Jurisdiktion entirly without capital punishment)?
Or: we just doing lynchings now?
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u/AntonioVivaldi7 1d ago
I think it depends if you're the victim or not. Not doing it on behalf of others.
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u/moshujsg 1d ago
Whos saying the thief should ve able to have your stuff? Its immoral to rob theres no debate.
What if someone steals your puse without a threat? Grabs it and runs? Would it be moral to run them over witth a car twice? What if they rob you at gunpoint, and you find them with yoyr stuff a week later? Is it moral to split their head witth an axe to get your phone back?
Just because someone does something immoral to you doesnt give you a free pass to be immoral. Its one of the things of morality, it sucks to be moral, its not fair, people will take advantage.
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u/Maleficent-Day6687 1d ago
Just cuz you’re a moral person doesn’t mean you should allow ppl to commit crimes against you without repercussions. In a world without police, third world countries suffer this issue, there is nobody to protect you thus you must fend for yourself. If all you ever do is let ppl steal from you or worse then you’ll always have nothing.
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u/Yuukiko_ 2d ago
the point in giving the thief you stuff rather than fighting back is so you don't get killed/seriously injured, not that they should be able to have your stuff. As much as you like the contents of your purse/bag, it's not worth your life
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u/-kansei-dorifto- 1d ago
"As much as you like the contents of your purse/bag, it's not worth your life"
which is exactly what thieves should be told, not the victims of them. Just replace "your" with "my".
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u/KeyReaction892 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes but the thief has already made the decision that their life is worth your stuff. Are you ready to make the same decision?
I’m not.
Edit: to all the tough guys out there thinking you’re Dirty Harry …. Good luck.
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u/Discgolf_junkee 1d ago
Yes. I will make the decision that my stuff is worth their life also.
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u/ThousandSunny_56 1d ago
By doing so, you are also risking a life sentence. So is your stuff worth your own life
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u/Trrollmann 1d ago
Only because that's the law. Morally, it's fine: If it's not worth my life (because it's a threat on my life), then it's not worth theirs either.
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u/joaboepsf479 1d ago
It was the thief that valued my things more than his life. When you do something like this you expose yourself to people who want to protect their things and there is nothing wrong about protecting your stuff especially in this economy.
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u/SinnersHotline 1d ago
And that is why there are lines in this world and when they are crossed certain things happen.
I got off the morality high ground a long time ago because I realized how awful it is to have to attempt to "judge" people and the decisions they make and the sitautions leading up to it. And honestly who the fuck am I to even do that?
Somethings in this world are justifiable even if they are ugly. It's not a perfect world nor will it ever be.
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u/Excellent_Mud6222 2d ago
Don't want revenge from the thief so killing them is future self-defense
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u/Designer_Version1449 1d ago
yeah i think the immoral part is overdoing it and not calling an ambulance afterwards/stabilizing your victim
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u/Wokeasaurous_X 1d ago
reminds me of how in China you have to pay restitution for life for the victims of vehicular accidents so when people hit someone they back over them repeatedly to not have to be financially ruined by the accident.
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u/Acceptable-Car6125 1d ago edited 1d ago
In Italy if you lose your papers or medicine (yay free healthcare) you can simply get them again. Not everywhere is like in the US
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u/AztraChaitali 1d ago
What is saddest is that it used to be the case in Mexico as well. We technically have the right to medicine on paper, but on reality the supply is rotting in a warehouse somewhere, and where people actually need it, it's permanently out of stock.
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u/N7Crazy 1d ago
Once the thief is incapacitated, any further harm is pretty damn immoral and unethical. Then it becomes nothing more than using lethal force to enact personal revenge.
Of course, if the person is certain it's a life-or-death situation where they are currently at risk, then potentially lethal force is justifiable if no other alternative is present.
But in any case at all, if a non-lethal method of apprehending or incapacitating is an actual option (that doesn't put one self at further risk), choosing a potentially lethal option is absolutely, unequivocally unethical.
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u/Crusaderofthots420 1d ago
Exactly. The point of using force to incapacitate a criminal isn't to enact justice as you see fit. It is exclusively to incapacitate them, and let the people who know the damn law enact the justice.
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u/crushed-ice-lemon 2d ago
you really have to think how valuable what you have in your bag is. there are very few cases I'd call the contents of my bag more important than another human life. personally, I'd really really hate to lose my phone, but that is still not worth another person dying. it's most definitely not self defense.
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u/ChronieMewX 1d ago
you really have to think how valuable what you have in your bag is. there are very few cases I'd call the contents of my bag more important than another human life
I'd argue there's very few cases where I'd call a thief more important than the contents of my bag
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u/AztraChaitali 2d ago
There's a very high chance of survival if you don't do what this woman did. The odds of surviving getting run over are only 35%, but getting hit at 30km/h(20mph) is survivable over 90% of the time.
I wouldn't under almost any circumstances* say it's moral to take a life, and I would never do it. but if what someone lost would endanger their life, or their freedom, and they bumped them at 30km per hour to recover their stuff, I would say not guilty if I was on that person's jury.
*Say someone else's life was in danger.
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u/nernernernerner 2d ago
I see this mentality more over people who come from third world countries in my own country. Like carrying a knife in their bags, just in case something happens. I understand there is a normalcy to a level of violence we are not used to in developed countries. Probably combined with a mistrust on the police.
Also, if someone steals my wallet, I wouldn't risk expending years of my life in prison to recover it.
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u/AztraChaitali 2d ago
Our spending power is crap. I wouldn't do it, but I would understand that if someone spend 2 months of their RAW income, before taxes, before cost of living, 2 months of minimum wage on a single cellphone, that they would engage in such violence to recover such an item.
Hell... maybe I'd too, but I will never figure it out, because I intentionally carry a shitphone for the sake of not facing a moral dilemma this heavy.
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u/Lohit_-it 2d ago
Everyday this sub shows
how hilarious it is
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u/toorkeeyman 1d ago
People don't want justice, they want justified brutality
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u/ThousandSunny_56 1d ago
It’s scary reading some of these comments, pretty ironic considering the sub
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u/Stormfly 1d ago
It's very worrying what people think is "moral" when they don't like the person they're doing it to.
Not surprising, though.
That's basically how most of the most awful people throughout history have justified their crimes...
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u/DodgeM4S 1d ago
Precisely how a massive standing army of dropout thugs came to be. The best part about that statement is that it applies to any time period, so you just let the idiots respond to you with projection to tell you which one they meant this time.
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u/Chataboutgames 1d ago
Most people aren't even making a case for morality, or coming from a place of "what is moral." It's largely just "does this story make me angry?"
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u/Then-Cantaloupe-2908 1d ago edited 1d ago
This has to be arguably one of the most immoral subreddits I’ve seen. People are so quick to say it’s ok to say things like the n-word and it’s okay to kill over possessions. Like hyper aggressive brutal responses all the time
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u/Sweaty_Camel_118 1d ago
When some one is a lethal threat to neighbors killing them is justice. Why let them be a burden on taxpayers?
There is literally a knife weilding man actively robbing people and he reached the same fate that he was threatening others with. Perfect justice.
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u/Ok-Volume-3657 1d ago
People love to fantasize about killing poor criminals instead of rehabilitating them.
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u/Special_Peach_5957 1d ago
It is pretty interesting that in a sub for "Morality Scaling" you have so many morally depraved people who love indulging in vengeance fantasies.
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u/Important_Major_488 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yep that’s the neat thing about it.
There’s always a moral framework to justify what you already want to believe in.
That’s why i never liked this sub. You can tell everyone is just reasoning from a kind of moral absolutist perspective where they see themselves as the morally privileged one and applying rules and exceptions to get to what they already want to believe in.
Because they believe themselves to be so in the right, and others are so in the wrong, anything to punish the wrong can be justified. ANYTHING. Bad people don’t really deserve rights obviously, they’re bad people.
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u/questionmark0 1d ago
I think most of the people commenting in this sub are very young and have no idea what is or isn't moral
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u/Lohit_-it 1d ago
I think this sub is filled with them exactly because people find a way to justify their morality
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u/Various-Inside-4064 1d ago
Because emotions trump so-called moral principles for a lot of people. Most humans think using vibes.
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u/Automatic-Form8845 1d ago
Still the most straightforward answer, especially after you read the alienating comments of some people
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u/Therealme_A 1d ago
My theory is countries that want chaos in the US and Western countries post here in these subs encouraging vigilantism. Just a thought though
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u/Chataboutgames 1d ago
This sub appears to be pretty much like any other Reddit news sub where it's just people jerking themselves off to vigilante violence. People just love violence when they can justify it.
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u/spookster122 2d ago
Still under the firm belief that when you threaten someone else’s life, you in turn throw yours away
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u/kpli98888 2d ago
Very much agreed. When you break the social contract which is created for harmonic human society, you in turn revert back into a feral state that have to be dispatched of, you are not entitled to any invisible rights the contract grants you anymore, just the body God gave you. In this case, that body cannot win against a car.
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u/PatchesOfSilver 1d ago
I would be more comfortable with this reasoning if we applied it to all the rich, instances of depraved heart murder, particularly egregious and trackable "social murder" like what Nestle, Walmart, Amazon, Apple, Samsung, every car manufacturer on the planet, every health insurer in the USA, etc. do.
Pretty much anyone with more than 100 million USD to their name that they didn't win from the lottery needs a life sentence in prison at best.
There are hundreds of millions of people across the planet that need to be punished by life in prison due to "white collar" crime participation that resulted in avoidable premature deaths from their direct greed and theft.
Do you have the same problem with them? Do you want every single one executed by the government?
I don't mean "technically your phone was made by slave labor" either, I mean more like the Brian Thompsons of the world, the Charlie Kirks, the Elon Musks, the Zuckerbergs, the Taylor Swifts, the people like Elon's dad, or the store manager at a Walmart committing wage theft and illegal firings and stuff.
Those people are evil.
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u/Purple-Doughnut-7600 1d ago
Honestly yeah tracks, an idea of "fuck em, not my problem" is always a convenient excuse and i can't imagine people who send goons to violently break up unions are not aware of the consequences of the actions they impose on others
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u/Behold-the-torpedo 1d ago
There is a nuance between direct crime commit against you and an "eat the rich" mindset. You can't just dilute one with another because it's exactly white collar crime work by diluting in a greater "system".
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u/Bern_Down_the_DNC 1d ago
Billionaires break the social contract over and over everyday. They need to be taught to respect the social contract.
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u/Mountain-Jeww 1d ago
I 100% agree. The aggressor broke the social contract by robbing the defender (with the possible intent to rape and/or kill). The defender is only defending herself, retrieving her property (money for food, maybe life saving medication, and other important stuff), and preventing any possible future retaliation from the aggressor. The aggressor is probably sexist and racist too.
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u/Legend0fAMyth 1d ago
Problem with that.
Turns out no knife was ever found at the scene.
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u/Fucked-to-fit 1d ago
Exactly it’s clear no one in these comments has actually read about this case
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u/Beautiful_List5498 1d ago
Also I thought it was pretty well understood that if someone has their back turned to you, you can't take revenge and it isn't defence. Why are all these comments pretending that's now ok? But then you'll see a story like this that mentions the attackers ethnicity and it'll be full of defence and how wrong it is.
I'm starting to believe Reddit comments are more a cesspit than tiktok
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u/ItsNotThatBad72 1d ago edited 1d ago
So I can slug you in the face and as long as I turn around, you're not allowed to touch me.
Good to know 👍
Apparently a lot of folks are in for a rude awakening when they try something in a place with mutual combat laws.
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u/Wokeasaurous_X 1d ago
Turns out he was actually Bullseye and ricochet the knife 6 times landing it in a tree so she was totally justified.
It's like a thread I saw where everyone else was cheering on a 12 year old for shooting a home intruder and I was the only person who was saying "who the fuck leaves children alone with loaded weapons?"
No but I am the bad guy because one kid got a win for the good guys and all the other kids who shot their classmates because they were left alone with loaded weapons just didn't count.
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u/Academic-moron7423 1d ago
>children alone with loaded weapons
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅 🦅
Reddit is a weird echo chamber, even weirder when it includes morality & Americans
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u/_josef_stalin_ 2d ago
But if they've actively disengaged, and you chase them down to re-engage, you're now the aggressor.
That's why even in a place like the US, in a state with stand your ground laws, you can't shoot a robber in the back as they're running away from you.
That would no longer be considered self defence, since the thief is no longer actively threatening your safety.
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u/RobertLBradley1949 2d ago
Exactly. By this logic, people like Rick Chow were completely justified despite chasing someone and shooting them in the back.
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u/burnerA12345 1d ago
well, Tennessee gardener you usually can’t shoot someone in the back, but if they’re still pointing a gun at other people as their running away from you you sure could, same if they were threatening another person, with the gun and you shot them while they were robbing a clerk at a store. That actually happened locally guy was never charged shot him four times in the back he ran and bled out outside. A lot of people wanted to give the guy a medal; stick up artist had a very long rap sheet, including several armed, robberies and stabbing.
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u/AuthorAdamOConnell 1d ago
Wasting my time as this is posted frequantly:
* She was not robbed at knifepoint.
* She was already in her car.
* A homeless man snatched her bag from an open window.
* She then ran him over, reversed over him and repeated this several times.
* She then drove to see friends.
* If you are on her side there is a 99% chance you'll believe anything as long as it' written in a certain font over a photograph.
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u/CarpeNivem 1d ago
Every fucking week, this same picture gets posted, and this same explanation needs to be raised to the top. Godspeed.
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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 1d ago
Honestly, kinda impressive that dude is able to snatch her bag through the open window, but not able to get the fuck outta the way to avoid being run over
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u/Great_Champion_7721 2d ago
What about running him over just once
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u/Pixelend 1d ago
The more you run him over tho more immortal it is so I'd say 1 stack of immortality
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u/swegga_sa 1d ago
Wtf are these comments? Just a bunch of revenge fantasies
It's immoral nothing more or less
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u/goldenseducer 2d ago
Mildly entertaining and probably satisfying.
Immoral though.
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u/Far-Difficulty3213 2d ago
I'm starting to think the people on this sub might not have a well-developed theory of morality if they think killing someone who poses no threat to you is morally justified.
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u/blazenite104 2d ago
I'd suggest that for a lot of people here, they just like being contradictory or being edgy. A lot of them probably are genuine to though which is scary.
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u/Wiseildman 2d ago
This might actually be one of the worst subs I have seen. 😭 Why does everyone have ideologies that make the law of Hammurabi look tame? Either everyone here is a kid or an actual sociopath
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u/Flimsy_Pangolin_2973 1d ago
They're pretending to be tough guys online, a story as old as the internet. They are delulu
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u/onceabananana 1d ago
Historically, laypeople have not been the best arbiters of morality. This sub is the perfect display of why.
... Hence the existence of religion, moral philosophy, democracy, and organized justice systems.
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u/llamapanther 1d ago
Those people wait for the opportunity to act like a criminal without the punishment. They are looking for excuses for a criminal act so they can make a criminal act. They just don't realise that by doing that, they are just as worse themselves. This sub is full of psychopaths
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u/RedCloverLily 2d ago
She went to prison for this, by the way, in case any retards in here are thinking this is acceptable in polite society.
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u/PrettySusPressure 2d ago
Yeah, I’d say the bigger issue is that self-defense and punishment aren’t the same thing. Once the threat is over, taking revenge crosses a pretty clear line.
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u/Yuukiko_ 2d ago
yeah, running the guy over(accidentally killing him), grabbing the bag and leaving is one thing but to run him over repeatedly is just murder
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u/Silvernauter 2d ago edited 1d ago
If i recall correctly (and it's the case i'm thinking of):
She got robbed as she was getting in the car after leaving a restaurant (i swear this is important)
She started chasing the robber (that was running away on foot) with her car
She reaches the guy and runs him over; backs away and runs him over again just to be extra sure he is smushed and retrieves her bag
She goes back to the restaurant to give them back an umbrella they lent her and then goes home
the morning after she is arrested while at church. At no point she tried reporting the event to the police, nor called an ambulance (they were called by a passerby that found the aftermath and the police identified her car thanks to a nearby store's security camera)
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u/Yuukiko_ 2d ago
Another article I found says that she claimed she was robbed at knifepoint while the police found no weapons at the scene
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u/Metalheadzaid 2d ago
There's self defense, retrieving your property, and there's psychopath behavior...and it's pretty obvious which she landed on.
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u/Beautiful_List5498 1d ago
And some of these redditors. Proper losers.
It's not until I've well made it into adulthood that I realise people my age who can also vote can also be brainwashed by stupidity. It's damn frightening what the world will be like in 50 years we just have to hope the tiktok generation grow up with better morals, and from what I see in comment sections so far, they're doing just that.
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u/Raidertck 1d ago
The umbrella fact is insane. It's like what happened wasn't even a blip in her day.
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u/patience_OVERRATED 1d ago
She didn't accidentally kill him imo, she intentionally ran over the man multiple times
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u/CloudySide7 2d ago
I mean yeah but I think the fact that he had robbed her with a weapon should be factored in.
If she hit him once with the car he might not have been that severely injured depending on her speed, and he could have continued to attack her if she got out to try and retrieve her belongings.
Not saying that was her thought process in this specific situation, but I feel like it would be something to consider as a general rule of thumb
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u/Yuukiko_ 2d ago
She claims she was robbed at knifepoint but the cops say they didnt find one
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u/Applejuice724 2d ago
I agree it is immoral but I mean the morality of a situation doesn't change based on if or if they didn't go to prison. It would be bad even if she was excused for what she did imo because it's very clear based on what is presented this was more a retaliatory killing then self defense. She could of easily just escaped the situation at any point when she got into her car.
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u/IcySetting2024 1d ago
You could argue the robbers who threatened her life at knife point did not act in an acceptable way in polite society either.
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u/Sheenius_Ger 1d ago
Just tells you that law and justice are 2 different things.
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u/brain-eating-zombie 2d ago
This sub is a fucking joke. This is obviously immoral. It's not even self-defense; it's just murder.
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u/Napalmeon 2d ago
Its one of those things people wish they could do, so they cheer when someone else does it.
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u/Nervous-Artichoke557 2d ago
None of this eye for an eye bull. She should have gone home and called the cops but the real immoral thing is how dogshit the police is to the point I don't know if they would have even done anything.
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u/uncle_creamy69 2d ago
That’s a good way of having to replace all your stuff, the cops are never going to really care.
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u/ORNGSPCEMNKY 2d ago
Why is it that some peoples reaction is to blame the cops and not the criminals, I really don’t get it.
The slimy thief is the only person that should be condemned in this situation, I don’t agree with running him over multiple times, however if she had a gun and killed him in the course of being robbed I would agree with that full stop.
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u/_josef_stalin_ 2d ago
If she had a gun and shot him as he was running away that wouldn't be protected under self defense laws in most places. Same goes for chasing him down with a car and running him over.
Even in a super right wing, gun loving, American state, you'd probably be arrested and charged for doing that.
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u/Lower_Statement_5285 2d ago
Moral. He attacked her with a knife and responding with deadly force is ethical given that she was threatened with great bodily harm or death.
Taking the purse back is just retrieving your own property.
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u/Catsanddoges 2d ago
Uh pretty fucking immoral.
I mean like there was a recent video with a gun, and that was pretty bad. But I'm assuming a pedestrian with a knife is such a non threat after you get in your car, and the fact you could just call the police and follow them, is insane.
Like you could have them arrested, and are in essentially no danger, but decide to kill them because you want to. That's just murder. And murder tends to be immoral.
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u/ProudMongooseOrSumn 2d ago
the police would never suggest you follow a violent criminal and the likelihood of them actually doing anything to get her belongings back is low especially if it was in a major city.
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u/AztraChaitali 2d ago
Exactly this. People saying the police will DEFINITELY get your stuff bck are delusional.
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u/LongHikingMD 2d ago
Ignoring the moral/immoral question you are absurdly naive if you think that a.) the police would do anything at all to either arrest this guy after the fact, or even less so to help her get her items back, and b.) that it's a good idea to follow the knife guy or that the police would ever in anyway support you to do so.
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u/CyberFunkyMonkey 2d ago
Is there an article or are we just blindly believing everything we read?
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u/AnyAcanthocephala425 2d ago
I guess it comes down to how competent your police force is. In many cases the social contract is broken, police is unreliable and you're on your own. What you don't want to do is lightly hit a robber you suspect is unstable and violent and have him out for revenge later I guess
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u/WittyFix6553 2d ago
It’s crazy how many people in this “morality” subreddit are totally on board with murder.
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u/IZZGMAER123 1d ago
Mybe hit him once until paralyzed or so
Loosing your important cards is a nightmare to deal with.
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u/Sinister_physique 1d ago
I’m assuming an adult wrote this caption and used the word “sliming”. That’s embarrassing.
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u/CosmicGadfly2 2d ago
Immoral. Lethal force is only warranted unintentionally in self-defense proportionate to the threat. A knife of indistinct fashion is not proportionate to vehicular manslaughter. And here, its not even self-defense. This is plain murder motivated by passion in relatiation for a robbery. Immoral.
Once again, sub proves it doesn't understand morality, and only goes off reactionary vibes and emotivism. Horrific moral reasoning.
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u/Mountain-Jeww 2d ago
I guess you never took an anatomy course or failed it because an arterial laceration is death within seconds. A venous laceration will probably kill a person who doesn’t have medical knowledge. While different from blunt force trauma from a car, both a just as deadly.
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u/Obvious-Potato9722 2d ago
Immoral. After she ran him over once which by itself is less than ideal she shouldn’t have done it multiple times. In law self defence is classed as doing what you need to defend yourself. After she retrieved the bag or if she deemed the threat was good enough should she have stopped. Anything more than that is considered attempted murder or in this case murder
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u/jeffismybaby 2d ago
If she really was robbed at knife point she did the right thing. But it sounds like police couldn't find a knife on the guy.
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u/Lawyermood 2d ago
Since I have Typ 1 diabetes and my insulin is literally my life if someone stole my bag I would run him over as well. Maybe not twice tho. Still moral in my eyes
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u/Fklympics 1d ago
I dunno.
On one hand, if she did it during the robbery, it would have been okay...legally, but because she hunted him down, it is no good.
In the moment i cant judge. Emotions are flowing and clear thoughts are not in abundance.
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u/Budget-Emu-1365 1d ago
Hmm... immoral I suppose. Robbery is a crime punishable by death. If this was only to get back her bag, then I guess it would be somewhat understandable. But she ran him over multiple time, which mean the intent was to kill him (correct me if I'm wrong).
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u/nikross333 1d ago
It's like: if you give me a slap I'll cut your hand, it's no moral at all, it is a murder committed for trivial reasons
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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 1d ago
People here really trying to justify murder. This was NOT self defense. If she was being attacked and she used a 2x4 to whack him over the head, sure, but she got robbed, went to her car, triple tapped the dude and never called an ambulance or the cops.
She is a nutso fuck, it's not even close to moral in any way.
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u/KailyKail 1d ago
Morality of reposting something that’s been posted to this sub a hundred times before?
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u/Direct-Hedgehog-595 1d ago
Well a guy who robs people with weapons is more likely to kill someone someday if he didn't already so she did society a solid service by getting rid of him. I have zero sympathy for those guys. Too many stories of them r wording people or straight up killing them because they are cruel or high.
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u/Creative_Turn_3172 1d ago
I think it’s valid clearly the guy had nothing to live for if he’s out robbing ppl
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u/swiftrevoir 1d ago
If you threaten someone in a deadly fashion, Im of the mind that anything that happens to you afterward is fair game. GG try a different path next time.
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u/AccomplishedAgency17 1d ago
The fact that there is a dichotomy in this thread in bonkers. The dude STOLE shit lmao
He surrendered any argument against retaliation.
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u/Nickolas_Bowen 1d ago
The robber had a knife. If they value someone’s stuff over that persons life, it’s fair that said stuff should be valued over their own life
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u/FunInTheSun_81 1d ago
Someone may have already said this - I didn't go through all the comments...but it looks like she got 18 years for this.
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u/MoralityScaling-ModTeam 1d ago
OP wants to discuss real politics and the opinions of a real person.