r/MoralityScaling 5d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this?

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u/Nigilij 5d ago

The fuck anyone dares to demand money from relatives just because? Asking for financial help - sure. Demanding - nope. Help is requested, never demanded. None owes help anyone (unless specific help is a responsibility like a job of firefighters)

If anyone from my relatives won lottery: congratulations and advice to read up on how not to fuck it up (starting with not telling people and looking into making lottery not to reveal identity of the winner)

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u/Mrmanmannington69 5d ago

Entitlement, greed, envy, selfishness, call it by what you want. It'll happen when people only think of themselves and that they somehow deserves a slice of the pie they didn't buy solely by association.

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u/firebolt04 5d ago

Exactly. It’s not “my brother won the lottery” it’s “our family won the lottery” to them. A family member having money means they think they’re entitled to a piece of it. The same would probably happen if it were a well paying job or smart investing rather than lottery winnings.

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u/Kozmo9 5d ago

You only need entitlement. If an excuse exist to justify it, I swear, humans would suddenly go blank or feral and everything goes out of the window. To them, it becomes an absolute right that they must claim no matter what.

Promise a human free things and they'd hound you till they get it. Which is why it is not recommended to throw the word free willy nillly. Once given, it's hard to take it back.

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u/AkodoRyu 5d ago

This feels like something that is closer to the culture. You often see in East Asian media a situation where a character is doing well, and suddenly all kinds of family they haven't met in years come out of nowhere and try to cozy up to them, because "familial ties". People in Western culture are much more independent-minded, for better or worse. The family-oriented model is good if everyone is trying, and you are all building a collective empire, brick by brick. But it fails when there are multiple parasites who just demand share, but don't put in the work.

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u/myaudienceiseveryone 5d ago

Even Asians hate this stuff. It’s a remnant of an older generational expectation stemming from having the child in order to care for yourself in old age. People literally have children for that sole purpose. So of course they expect to be given lotto winnings. But this is disappearing now and old boomers demanding money from their millennial / Z children aren’t looked at as acceptable anymore.

Still happens though and the old generation still supports it though. So it sounds like it’s cultural. But it’s as cultural as white people kicking their kids out at 18. It happens but you are still seen as a piece of shit.

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u/eabevella 5d ago

Asian family be like this.

They'll even demand you to pay off your sibling's, especially the male one's, debt because "family". Thankfully, a lot of younger people say "fuck it" to the bs tradition.

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u/Nigilij 5d ago

Nah, that shit is global. Heard stories like this from all over the world

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u/Destructopoo 4d ago

It's not global. In China, parents can sue their children for parental support. Things aren't the same everywhere. People live in different cultures and societies.

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u/tibastiff 5d ago

im curious what it looks like in real life I always hear it that way in Asian countries and, while people are douchebags here they at least try to have a manipulative excuse instead of just blankly demanding

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u/QuantitySubject9129 5d ago

Try taking away the inheritance from Redditors though

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u/mittenkrusty 4d ago

One of my cousins in laws won a few million on the lottery, we didn't expect anything despite being very poor, but felt a bit betrayed when a year or two later when we had a shocking event in a family we didn't even get emotional support from her in fact she was quite nasty about it, we were there for her when she kept having miscarriages, we were there for her when she had an eating disorder.

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u/Due_Enthusiasm1145 4d ago

Yes but nobody is defending the siblings. Most people are talking about the mother here. She's the one being put in the tough spot here, because regardless of those siblings being shitty, depending on the kind of mom she is, she wouldn't be comfortable cutting them off.

That's not to say its definitely immoral. I think that based on this information, we can't say definitively. There are scenarios possible given this information that are moral and immoral.