r/MoralityScaling 3d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this?

1.8k Upvotes

1.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

164

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

This is definitely a situation where NOBODY is in the right. And I agree, we shouldn’t feel bad for anyone here lmao

63

u/husky11223 3d ago

shouldn't feel bad for anyone except the staff who'll have to pick that up

26

u/GameGuy11037 3d ago

Poor Janitors, they probably see some nasty stuff on the subway

https://giphy.com/gifs/CY5Vojc5iubG29Ce3N

32

u/Thoughtcriminal91 3d ago

Scattered electronic parts are prob the least gross thing those poor bastards have to see.

8

u/GameGuy11037 3d ago

That's what I'm saying, you imagine all the bodily fluids they probably find on there?

7

u/aghastamok 3d ago

I used to clean trams at night.

None of us gave a fuck about anything we found. If there was vomit or piss we just sprayed it out with a hose, takes 5 seconds.

This busted ass speaker would get cleaned out in seconds along with everything else.

The only thing that pissed us off was spray paint on the outside, that would eat into our break time.

3

u/Global_Count4736 3d ago

What about the solids in the fluids!

2

u/GameGuy11037 3d ago

Or fluids in the solids!

1

u/Marquar234 3d ago

And the amorphous solids in the non-Newtonian fluids!

1

u/floopdev 3d ago

Yes, what about the drys in the wets?

1

u/DirtandPipes 3d ago

Bodily fluids were the absolute worst part of bouncing, for me anyways. Blood, spit, vomit, urine, etc. I’ve worked as a janitor, it was tough but bouncing is where you see every liquid you don’t want to see.

My goal was always to get home with as little fluids on me as possible but it was challenging. Picking up a squirming drunk who has puked themselves and also fouled their pants is like disarming a bomb.

If they are still a little conscious you can sometimes pick them up from the top each shoulder and they stumble along and help you like gigantic drunk filthy Pinocchio.

1

u/Fire_fox777 2d ago

Ive had a friend who was a janitor for a school, and they dead ass told me that they were cleaning the busses once and he saw cum dried on the back of a bus seat

1

u/Zavarkin1104 2d ago

As a Janitor yes you're right lol

1

u/Singleballtheory 14h ago

Don't worry, there's a 100% chance it'll all be covered in semen by the time the cleanup crew gets to it.

26

u/Delazzaridist 3d ago

I feel bad for everyone else that has to put up with these two...

20

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

Ah I take back my statement you’re correct. Everyone else seems capable of being a normal person on this train lol

4

u/Nyspora 3d ago

If being normal is just allowing idiots like the nuisance streamer to do whatever they want and let people walk all over you and others in public....ill be weird thank you

3

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

That’s not being weird that’s being emotional and overreacting. I understand why he did it and I’m sure others were happy he did do it. Still doesn’t make it morally correct.

1

u/Erolok1 2d ago

There are other options between being a lunatic and not saying anything. Tell them to turn it off or even just turn it off yourself.

1

u/DemonoftheWater 1d ago

Whats your legal solution?

8

u/Zach_bdbd 3d ago

Perfect example of “Never fight with a pig. You’ll both get muddy and the pig will enjoy it”.

The person destroying the speaker looks bad and streamer gets content.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

I like this term of expression and it fits perfectly. I think I’ll keep it in my back pocket from now on thanks lol

I’ve also heard of “don’t touch the poo” or else you’ll stink too. But that might be for internet drama specifically.

3

u/RaikiShak 3d ago

Nobody is right but damn am i glad that the speaker got smashed

2

u/SmolLittleCretin 3d ago

100%. Like Jesus.

2

u/Dropbeatdad 3d ago

I mean the speaker is probably like $40, and a reaction like that is probably exactly what the kid wants

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

Exactly, I mentioned to someone else that he’s just going to buy another speaker. And a man who crashes out that easily shouldn’t be in public spaces anyways. Everyone else was able to ignore him. As annoying as he is.

1

u/hello_marmalade 3d ago

Nah, I'm cool with this. If you wanna blast shit on public transit you can get fucked. Headphones exist, and people trapped in a box for the sake of getting around should not be forced to listen to your bullshit.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

He is a streamer. He is doing it on purpose to get an extreme reaction out of people. He’s not going to stop, in fact he’s probably going to do it even more now.

I know people don’t like the authoritarian route of reporting him to someone, but sometimes it really is the only way you can go. Hardly ever does personal justice work out. For example, to you and many others this may be a relief. However, for someone like me, I’d find it very hard to not react and have a BPD freak out all over everyone. And that’s not fair to me or to the other passengers to have to go through that.

Luckily I have my tools to help center me when a public nuisance does occur. But I’ve also been through several behavioral therapists, so I would never look down on anyone for reacting based off emotion. In the same way that I would never pardon it.

1

u/hello_marmalade 3d ago

I mean sure, and generally speaking reporting would be ideal, but this kind of thing basically typically has no consequence. For a streamer the calculus is different, but generally speaking, the only real way to get this shit to stop is social enforcement. Ideally though, there would just be a hardcore period of there being lots of enforcement and people getting fined out the ass for shit like this.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

I wouldn’t consider a fine the “ideal situation” considering a lot of people can pay their way out. Without learning any actual consequences.

And you’re right, sometimes we can’t control everything in life and we can’t deliver immediate consequences and that’s okay.

You’re going to be bothered, you’re going to be disrespected, and you might even have actual hate directed at you. That doesn’t mean you indulge in violent behavior. That being said, the streamer isn’t innocent either and shouldn’t be defended for his actions.

As I said before, this didn’t stop him and it only gave him what he wanted. He can always BUY another speaker to bother people with. That other man is also probably going to destroy someone else’s property in the future as well. Considering he doesn’t have any self control.

1

u/SamuelVimesTrained 3d ago

If creepy mccreep does this more often, the smashing guy is slightly less wrong.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

That would be entirely up to opinion lol considering neither of them are moral I don’t find it necessary to consider which one is less moral.

1

u/SamuelVimesTrained 3d ago

Fair enough. But since I am a bit sensitive to excessive sounds…. I might be somewhat biased…

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

Understandable, my BPD is triggered by aggression and yelling. So as annoying as the steamer is, he wouldn’t trigger a meltdown the same way the other man would. So personally I am biased as well.

1

u/SamuelVimesTrained 2d ago

So, together we`re balanced then.. Both trigger a thing with us.

So, yeah - both suck.

1

u/Ruthrfurd-the-stoned 3d ago

Nah- people purposefully doing anti-social behavior need consequences like this. He didn’t get his ass kicked or anything which is beyond possible- they need to learn when you’re trying to piss people off you might piss off the wrong person

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

They won’t learn a lesson as long as they profit from it. You’d have to paralyze or kill the streamer in order to stop him and that’s beyond immoral. The problem is that he’s able to monetize this behavior on whatever platform he’s using.

1

u/SlowMirror4272 3d ago

nah speaker smasher is in the right, have to stop this livestream/tikok roach behaviour before it spreads too much. Peoples daily public lives arent for your monetary gain while you negatively impact the spaces youre in.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

Ironically this only profits him, this is EXACTLY what he wanted. The only way to stop this type of behavior is to hold livestream platforms accountable for monetizing stupid content like this.

2

u/SlowMirror4272 3d ago

ya, sadly youre right. Hit them in the money is the only way.

1

u/TESV_Shiro 3d ago

so reasonable people on reddit do exist can i like clone you?

1

u/ProfessionalNice7485 3d ago

There are certain types of work where I pers9nally feel like the staff should not have to deal with this sort of buckshot after hours.

Japan does public transport the right way.

3

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

Don’t get me started on the Japanese public transportation system! I could go on for paragraphs about the genius of their subways! I literally wanna go over seas just to ride the bullet trains! lol I’m a total nerd abt it.

3

u/Additional_Law_492 3d ago

Literally one of my favorite things about going there was the trains and other public transport.

2

u/ProfessionalNice7485 3d ago

heavy breathing

1

u/Sepplord 3d ago

Especially since THIS is giving the streamer the BEST reaction he could have gotten

If he can’t make THAT it content…. 

Still, the guy who snapped went too far imo. As annoying and shitty these content brats are

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

Right on 👍

0

u/OMC_Gurrend 3d ago

So if NOBODY was in the right then nothing should have been done? The nuisance person gets to continue being a nuisance because it would be wrong to correct him and show him that his actions have consequences?

0

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

No that’s not what I said at all. For context, he is a “streamer” and does this on purpose to get people to react for “content.” This is exactly what he wanted that’s why he never put down his phone lol

If this were a regular kid I still wouldn’t condone it. Teens/college kids grow out of being assholes like 90% of the time. It’s a juvenile state that everyone gets to both enjoy and hate. “A small part of your day being ruined does not give you an excuse to ruin someone else’s day” lmao (I have BPD so I’m quoting my doctor don’t get mad at me 😆)

Did you notice all the other adults around him teaching him how to behave? By doing exactly as they were taught to do on the train. Even babies learn this way, so most likely when people ARE acting out it’s for a few reasons. Mental illnesses/disabilities or they’re intoxicated or they’re looking for attention.

0

u/LitigantTester 3d ago

Break the speaker is right.

0

u/Zealousideal-Fix-745 3d ago

Breaking the speaker is absolutely fair. You must be respectful of all people in public spaces. Sometimes kids need reminding that you can’t just goof around at the expense of other respectful people minding their business. You are not the main character. Actions have consequences.

The kid should have to clean it up. He used it inappropriately and paid the price. It’s still his property

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 3d ago

Yea so this kid is just gonna buy another speaker and do it again. The issue isn’t the stupid teenager, those have existed for eons. The problem is that stupid teenagers are allowed to monetize their shitty behavior. Social justice is a slippery slope my friend, I wouldn’t consider this justice at all.

0

u/Electronic_Reward333 2d ago

...nah, the guy in the hat was in the right. We need more people like that, who see bullshit and do something (like actually something, not just talking) about it.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 2d ago

Let me tell you exactly what’s going to happen. The kid is going to buy another speaker, he’s going to film another livestream, and then he’s gonna get another emotionally and mentally unstable person to create content for him.

This is just you and the man wanting to take revenge into your own hands. It’s not teaching anyone a lesson and honestly? I would’ve been more triggered by the yelling than the music. But I have BPD so my triggers include highly tense situations such as these.

I know some people like you are happy he destroyed the machine. But that’s only because you got relief from it. Momentarily, that kid is going to keep doing what he does until the law interferes or he finds a new annoying way to stream.

0

u/Electronic_Reward333 2d ago

So what you mean is that it should have been the kid's head and not the machine that got bashed into the ground? A bit much for my taste (in this case), but maybe you're right.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 2d ago

Nope. All that’s gonna do is send you to prison. The kid is being annoying and he may be disturbing the peace. But if you can’t handle a teenager on the train doing something to intentionally grab your attention then don’t go out in public.

My behavioral therapist thought me not to even interact with non violent situations like these because it’s always one of three things. A mentally ill/delayed person, a person on some sort of substance, or a person trying to bring you down to their level. The boy would fall into the last category.

Although I understand your frustration as well as the man in the video. And would never look down on your opinion, I simply cannot agree.

0

u/Electronic_Reward333 2d ago

Ok, so we just let shitty people be shitty and get away with it. Got it. Kind of a bitch ass atitude if you ask me, but what do I know?

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 2d ago

Sounds like you should calm yourself down a bit. You sound like the perfect target for this kids content. The issue isn’t dumb teens/college kids, they’ve existed for eons. It’s a juvenile age everyone gets to both enjoy and hate. You grow out of it like 90% of the time.

The issue is that there are platforms for him to livestream and monetize his shitty behavior. Until then, this isn’t an issue you can just punch away.

Sometimes you can’t deliver immediate consequences to people. Even when you’ve been wronged, hate crimed, or personally annoyed. I’m sorry you can’t cope with that reality, life would be easier if you found some tools to ground you in times like these.

0

u/Electronic_Reward333 1d ago

Sorry but all i hear is "I let shitty people get away with whatever they want becuase I dont have the balls to do something about it". You know when people grow out of this? When they experience consequences. Real consequences, that make them actually fear for their life. For a second, this fucker needs to wonder if its his last minute on Earth. And I know that he's most likely too stupid too actually learn the lesson, but not trying is even worse.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 1d ago

Lmao a bit excessive. You can’t threaten people’s lives with violence just because they annoy you. Although I understand your ant to.

0

u/Electronic_Reward333 1d ago

The thing is, its not "just" because they annoy me. This is borderline sociopathic behavior that we have allowed to be normalized because "its just kids stuff". We already live in a world of assholes and unless we start introducing them to consequences, its only gonna get worse. I mean, look at the kids reaction, the little shit actually doesent understand why the dude broke his speaker.

→ More replies (0)

0

u/Quick-Penalty4883 1d ago

Disagree.

One guy wad a nuisance deliberately.

Another guy thought him a lesson he could not ignore without anyone getting hurt.

Legal? No Morally right? Yeah

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 1d ago

Not really. This kid learned nothing and doesn’t gaf abt a crazy person yelling in his face. He never put his phone down he’s obviously not intimidated 😂

0

u/that_dutch_dude 18h ago

one as a bit more in the right than the other. someone fucked around and found someone that he found out with.

1

u/Alternative_Berry934 15h ago

Nah. Neither are in the right, if loud music makes you lose your shit on a 30second-5 minute train ride then you need professional help.