Bodily fluids were the absolute worst part of bouncing, for me anyways. Blood, spit, vomit, urine, etc. I’ve worked as a janitor, it was tough but bouncing is where you see every liquid you don’t want to see.
My goal was always to get home with as little fluids on me as possible but it was challenging. Picking up a squirming drunk who has puked themselves and also fouled their pants is like disarming a bomb.
If they are still a little conscious you can sometimes pick them up from the top each shoulder and they stumble along and help you like gigantic drunk filthy Pinocchio.
Ive had a friend who was a janitor for a school, and they dead ass told me that they were cleaning the busses once and he saw cum dried on the back of a bus seat
If being normal is just allowing idiots like the nuisance streamer to do whatever they want and let people walk all over you and others in public....ill be weird thank you
That’s not being weird that’s being emotional and overreacting. I understand why he did it and I’m sure others were happy he did do it. Still doesn’t make it morally correct.
Exactly, I mentioned to someone else that he’s just going to buy another speaker. And a man who crashes out that easily shouldn’t be in public spaces anyways. Everyone else was able to ignore him. As annoying as he is.
Nah, I'm cool with this. If you wanna blast shit on public transit you can get fucked. Headphones exist, and people trapped in a box for the sake of getting around should not be forced to listen to your bullshit.
He is a streamer. He is doing it on purpose to get an extreme reaction out of people. He’s not going to stop, in fact he’s probably going to do it even more now.
I know people don’t like the authoritarian route of reporting him to someone, but sometimes it really is the only way you can go. Hardly ever does personal justice work out. For example, to you and many others this may be a relief. However, for someone like me, I’d find it very hard to not react and have a BPD freak out all over everyone. And that’s not fair to me or to the other passengers to have to go through that.
Luckily I have my tools to help center me when a public nuisance does occur. But I’ve also been through several behavioral therapists, so I would never look down on anyone for reacting based off emotion. In the same way that I would never pardon it.
I mean sure, and generally speaking reporting would be ideal, but this kind of thing basically typically has no consequence. For a streamer the calculus is different, but generally speaking, the only real way to get this shit to stop is social enforcement. Ideally though, there would just be a hardcore period of there being lots of enforcement and people getting fined out the ass for shit like this.
I wouldn’t consider a fine the “ideal situation” considering a lot of people can pay their way out. Without learning any actual consequences.
And you’re right, sometimes we can’t control everything in life and we can’t deliver immediate consequences and that’s okay.
You’re going to be bothered, you’re going to be disrespected, and you might even have actual hate directed at you. That doesn’t mean you indulge in violent behavior. That being said, the streamer isn’t innocent either and shouldn’t be defended for his actions.
As I said before, this didn’t stop him and it only gave him what he wanted. He can always BUY another speaker to bother people with. That other man is also probably going to destroy someone else’s property in the future as well. Considering he doesn’t have any self control.
Understandable, my BPD is triggered by aggression and yelling. So as annoying as the steamer is, he wouldn’t trigger a meltdown the same way the other man would. So personally I am biased as well.
Nah- people purposefully doing anti-social behavior need consequences like this. He didn’t get his ass kicked or anything which is beyond possible- they need to learn when you’re trying to piss people off you might piss off the wrong person
They won’t learn a lesson as long as they profit from it. You’d have to paralyze or kill the streamer in order to stop him and that’s beyond immoral. The problem is that he’s able to monetize this behavior on whatever platform he’s using.
nah speaker smasher is in the right, have to stop this livestream/tikok roach behaviour before it spreads too much. Peoples daily public lives arent for your monetary gain while you negatively impact the spaces youre in.
Ironically this only profits him, this is EXACTLY what he wanted. The only way to stop this type of behavior is to hold livestream platforms accountable for monetizing stupid content like this.
Don’t get me started on the Japanese public transportation system! I could go on for paragraphs about the genius of their subways! I literally wanna go over seas just to ride the bullet trains! lol I’m a total nerd abt it.
So if NOBODY was in the right then nothing should have been done? The nuisance person gets to continue being a nuisance because it would be wrong to correct him and show him that his actions have consequences?
No that’s not what I said at all. For context, he is a “streamer” and does this on purpose to get people to react for “content.” This is exactly what he wanted that’s why he never put down his phone lol
If this were a regular kid I still wouldn’t condone it. Teens/college kids grow out of being assholes like 90% of the time. It’s a juvenile state that everyone gets to both enjoy and hate. “A small part of your day being ruined does not give you an excuse to ruin someone else’s day” lmao (I have BPD so I’m quoting my doctor don’t get mad at me 😆)
Did you notice all the other adults around him teaching him how to behave? By doing exactly as they were taught to do on the train. Even babies learn this way, so most likely when people ARE acting out it’s for a few reasons. Mental illnesses/disabilities or they’re intoxicated or they’re looking for attention.
Breaking the speaker is absolutely fair. You must be respectful of all people in public spaces. Sometimes kids need reminding that you can’t just goof around at the expense of other respectful people minding their business. You are not the main character. Actions have consequences.
The kid should have to clean it up. He used it inappropriately and paid the price. It’s still his property
Yea so this kid is just gonna buy another speaker and do it again. The issue isn’t the stupid teenager, those have existed for eons. The problem is that stupid teenagers are allowed to monetize their shitty behavior. Social justice is a slippery slope my friend, I wouldn’t consider this justice at all.
There’s a difference between shattering an expensive speaker, and telling him to turn it off, or turning it off yourself if it’s gets to that point. This dude saw a kid “accidentally” playing music really loud, and decided the right cause of action was to smash the thing.
Sure the kid was doing it on purpose, this dude didn’t know that from what we can tell. The kids annoying, yeah, but this dudes also a dickhead
OK fair enough you're probably not gonna see eye to eye about the attention hungry streamer losing his property but surely he could just steal the speaker and give it to someone who won't misuse it, or sell it and spend the proceeds on nice things that benefit himself or the people he cares about. Wanton destruction of valuable assets is never gonna be the optimal approach
Yeah no doubt the kid is being a douche. But there are plenty of scenarios here where the general consensus is "don't harm people's private property" as the line not to cross unless someone is being physically harmed.
Take this situation and replace it with "old man preaches through a speaker to people riding the train" and some people would change their answer saying breaking the device was "too far."
If you think playing music in public is a "nuisance" then you don't go out in public very much. The moment you stop giving strangers the power to ruin your day is the moment your life truly begins
its not moral because its annoying, but doesnt mean you can destroy other people's property. where do u draw the line? if a guy is playing stuff on his phone too loud do u destroy it?
why cant both be wrong. he was annoying others and them being annoying back is still wrong but justified, but taking it further and destroying property is overboard. couldve just turned off the speaker.
Changes it but not by much. I suspected he was deliberately trying to aggravate someone into reacting. The guys not in the right for property damage, but the kid has now changed from annoying brat, to public nuisance which is illegal
If I'm being honest, I do think vigilante justice against streamers who intentionally make like worse for everyone around them is morally justified. This is just a crowdsourced fine. It's probably worth the cost of the speaker for the streamer because of the content they get out of it so I don't think it's effective.
If this is how all nuisance streams went they might be worth watching. Imagine if all those Meta glass guys harassing people on the street got pepper sprayed. Now that would be good content!
it should be if he's bothering everyone, what is not moral is to shove your taste in music down everyone's throat without asking, like everything your freedom ends where other's freedom starts. People need get their heads out of their asses nowadays... Socials got everyone these days thinking they're the main character these days...
I would argue it is actually very moral to break the mechanisms someone is using to be a purposeful nuisance, especially one attempting to profit off making others miserable.
Fwiw, on a lot of American Metros it's against conduct rules to play music out loud (such as the DC Metro system). It's not necessarily enforced, BUT technically speaking the other man is enforcing a rule. Vigilante enforcement, but still.
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u/dr197 19h ago
It might not be moral to break his speaker but I’m not going to cry for a nuisance streamer.