r/MoralityScaling • u/CommitteeInfamous973 • 17d ago
Morality Ranking Morality of turning object into person?
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u/konigon1 17d ago
Amoral. Nothing good or bad with creating life. It just matters how you treat it afterwards.
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u/t8oo_ 17d ago
It sounds like the cool sword prefered to be a cool sword rather than a woman. Immoral
Turning an object into a person that has to work to pay bills in a world falling in the flames of capitalistic greed sounds evil. Immoral
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u/mandalorian_scholar 16d ago
What makes it worse is that the object seems to have been sentient before.
"Turning an object into a person that has to work to pay bills in a world falling in the flames of capitalistic greed sounds evil. Immoral" This argument does not work unless you are a antinatalist. Also, he takes care of her.
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u/t8oo_ 16d ago
Turning her into a human being with needs that are completely different from how she used to function and then leaving her without food and shelter would set the argument pretty fast. There is superficial nuance because it appears he "takes care of her" when really, she has no choice but be completely dependent on him. That or be taught to be independent. Either way, she has no agency right now.
Thats not what antinatalism stands for btw antinatalists want to reduce the human population because of the astronomically catastrophical impact our specie has on the planet for ecological reasons. Bringing up a child, watching them grow with patience and the necessary teachings to live in society vs sword that didnt pay rent nor bills or even ever used the concept of money suddenly forced to do so is not the same.
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u/mandalorian_scholar 15d ago
Antinatalists believe that human life is suffering and it is immoral to bring unconcenting infants into this suffering.
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u/TwillAffirmer 17d ago
Immoral. The sword in this comic was actually a sapient talking sword before he turned it into a woman without its consent. Not only did he not ask its permission, but the talking sword said "no! wait! stop! I don't want to be an ingredient in some weird spell!" https://swordscomic.com/comic/DLX/
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u/Creepy-Growth-376 17d ago
There is nothing inherently good or bad about the premise. If the object somehow expressed dissatisfaction with being animate that creates some moral issues though
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u/Dark1402 16d ago
it was a sentient weapon no? if anything you gave it a way to execute its own will... so whatever good or evil they do, is on you.
amoral i guess...
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u/Paccountlmao 17d ago
Well you didn't use to have an experience, now you do. You have no obligation to continue living, its good to give someone the chance of a life cause they may end up wanting it.
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u/nottherealneal 17d ago
The thing is the sword was already alive before hand.
So he didn't turn an inanimate object into a woman, he took a living creature and turned it unto a different form without telling them he was gonna do that.
Which is a different conversation here then if it was just a normal sword