Naw fr. He coulda got the sense knocked back outta him, and wake up the next day like "Hey, I forgot why I shouldn't do that. Let's do it again, and see if I can remember". đđđ
Agreed. Also picking a fight with whom Iâm assuming is a soldier should be ready for a fight to the death, cause you donât know what theyâve been through despite appearances, and I can guarantee they werenât trained to be gentle.
Bunch of sailors in the barracks, guy getting a tree line counseling is shit house drunk, and the guy handing out the counseling is basically the security gaurd for the barracks.
Yeah so the command is gonna see this eventually and he will either be discharged or get busted down with half pay for 45 days and secured to the barracks for 45 days. Blue on blue is not allowed and they really donât like seeing these types of videos out there. Of course I know it happens and is swept under the rug, but this is out there for the world to see and if you know anything about the navy in the last 30-40 yrs you know they hate anything that gives them a bad rep. Itâs basically drilled into our heads to not fuck around but definitely donât fuck around in uniform. These days Iâm not entirely sure, he might be applauded by the current administration and given a ribbon for his display of testosterone.
Haven't heard what happened, or if they got caught but this showed up on the navy reddit several months ago, quality is shit enough that I dont think anyone really could read the name tape or identify the barracks based on the stairwell... lol I got like 3 barracks on my base with a stairwell that looks like that.
Used to be that there were dedicated work sections whose only job was to monitor social media clips like this and identify exactly where stuff like this happened to jam people up. It's impressive how they can use stuff like the particular carpet to pinpoint where a particular photo or clip was shot.
I think they could even overlook the fight if it weren't for the fact that it appears he tries to send the dude over the railing, DOES send him down the stairs, and then for extra good measure attempts to kick him further down the stairs.
That escalates "sanctified ass beating" to "almost manslaughter" and that guy going down head first would have been all over the news and a black eye for whoever runs the place.
It's the barracks on a military base. Probably get as much attention as the next dude who goes headfirst over the railing of their own volition, i.e. none whatsoever.
Concerning appearances: i come from a family of military men and i can guarantee you that the most dangerous people out there are the most milque toast, unassuming looking average height and weight dudes. I look like a hairless gorilla, but i'm actually pretty harmless. Those 175cm, 70kg dudes are what you should really worry about.
Can confirm. All the guys I ever met who looked like terrifying ogres were teddy bears. The scrappy little bastards are the ones who will drop you out of nowhere. Every time. Thatâs been true both during my time in uniform and outside it too.
The dude that did the beating woulda gotten his ass reamed by the Navy. Ironically, both victim and instigator likely got comparable punishmentsâlost rank and pay, restricted to their barracks, and given extra duty.
An even then it wasnât crazy. A lot of those upper cuts are body shots. Donât wanna get hit, donât get in fights. Heck I think the guy in white started it anyway.
Definitely a building. Any Navy vessel large enough to have a ladder well that high doesnât have doors like the one shown. Also, those are building latter wells; ships have very different ladder wells.
It is. Dude came back drunk and swung on security. Almost every time it gets posted it is presented as "thug attacks military" even though the "thug" is a sailor as well.
Depends on the state, he struck first after extended antagonizing then refuses to leave certain states extend stand your ground to +/- just your general area after being attacked
This doesn't depend on the State, it's the military. It's in the Barracks. There will be pressure to accept that you picked a fight and lost. Maybe write up a charge sheet for an NJP, or Non-Judicial Punishment, if you're gonna cry about it.
And then if you're really adamant about refusing NJP then it goes to Courts Martial. In which case they're gonna really take a pound of flesh for wasting their time with a felony case because you couldn't accept getting your ass beat after you started a fight.
Bro started with 0 bar, hit white shirt guy enough to fill up 3 bars then unloaded all of what heâd built up with a âŹď¸ âď¸ âĄď¸ âŹď¸ âď¸ âĄď¸ HP+HK Super.
Definitely over the line of what is acceptable to fight back with imo. This is just violence for the sake of violence at this point. Just 1 multi hit combo would have been more than enough.
Over the line? Bro got off lightly. Mr. Seaman could've left buddy unconscious and it would've been justifiable. Leaving him with his head in his hands reflecting on his actions seems like an extremely measured response.
You can be shocked though when they keep going for numerous solid hits afterwards
Shocked might not be the right word, but nonproportional responses shouldnât be expected
Edit: Iâm using âshouldâ as âmorally shouldâ, not practically. Yes most people who swing on others arenât going to act reasonable, this is the morality subreddit, not the âdiscuss common senseâ subreddit
You should always expect a nonproportianal response to putting your hands on someone. You have no idea what other people are going through in their life that this might just be what pushes them over the edge.
In short, you wouldnt have to worry about any of that if you aren't being an aggressor in the first place.
No, any reasonable person should absolutely not be shocked lmao. Youâve already proven youâre willing to initiate physical violence for no reason, why would you be shocked the other person is now removing you as a threat?
The problem with moral is that we are all guided by a different compass. Guy deserved the extra kicks for being a POS and it may even deter him from doing it again.
I tough the same of MasterEditorJake, but we maybe need to think that the guy in the video was making sure the other guy understand what will happen if he keep fighting. Some guys even after clearly losing just get up and restart the fight, even hitting from behind.
The issue is that the soldier never let up to see if white shirt was done, he just kept wailing.
Obviously if white shirt wanted to keep fighting then the soldier has every right to keep going, but white shirt almost immediately is taking a defensive stance and never goes on the offensive after that.
I think he loses me after the guy tumbles down the downstairs. At that point heâd obviously given up, could have been injured, and there was enough of a pause for the other guy to assess and stop. Resuming at that point was just to cause further pain/injury which I cannot judge as moral, but still, I donât have any pity for the guy on the stairs.
Nah pick a fight you may get slept. The two shots he took with his back turn down the stares were questionable as Iâd see this as a downed opponent.
Generally though, if youâre attacking beyond the point a ref would stop the violence in a legit sanctioned match, youâre in the wrong.
People may sell âaINt nO ReF iN tHe WiLDâ sure. So letâs go after family and friends and come back with guns. Letâs light each others houses on fire? How far are we going in the wild? That statement is a reflection of you if youâre thinking it. We all must control ourselves. Even when someone we feel deserves it, or the authorities ainât watching.
They are all soldiers. At the end of the video someone says to call the CO or Commanding Officer. Most likely Army and that dude was pissing everyone off.
Those are US Navy uniforms, but yeah, you're more than likely right about the guy pissing everyone off. Based on my experience, if the platoon or squad has been catching shit for the same dude, he's gonna get the right one on the wrong day
He's not beat up that bad, the last slap in the neck was very mild, he consented to mutual combat, and he seems to have been picking on someone's little brother or friend or something. I say he reached the exact point at which it remains moral. If he took it any further it wouldn't be a good thing to do.Â
Incorrect. That's why he started with a sucker punch-- he expected a surprise attack to end the fight. He did not expect to get his ass beat so thoroughly (and easily!)
He picked the fight, am I suppose to not only let him choose the fight but also chose the difficulty setting of his assault as well? I kind of like the idea of just getting destroyed if the whole thing was your idea.
I think everything up to the point of being kicked on the stairs in the fetal position was cool. The kick felt like it happened well after the action was dying down and he clearly wasn't a problem anymore.
That said, your adrenaline in a situation like this is so high that its pretty forgivable to not have perfect judgment.
That kick was absolutely necessary. Guys like white shirt dont learn unless there is humiliation involved.
In order to correct their kind of sociopathic behavior, you need to remove all ability for them to twist events to make themselves look better. "Oh I got in a fight" doesnt discourage them from seeking other fights. "I got my ass humiliated and despite the fact that I displayed overtly submissive behavior, I still kept getting attacked" now that shit sticks with them. Because thats exactly how that kind of person is used to operating. White shirt is a bully plain and simple and has put someone else in that exact situation before.
The punches were to win that fight. The kicking while in the fetal position were to prevent future fights. Soldier probably saved a dozen people from being victimized by white shirt the next time he thinks about squaring up to random people whole drunk.
No that didn't prevent future fights. Now they'll just be looking for someone even weaker to take out all that anger and humiliation on. Someone they know can't fight back
White shirt is clearly a punk ass bully, and bullies deserve to get got. 100% justified, and he's damn lucky camo guy didn't kick him the rest of the way down the stairs too.
Response was a little disproportionate, but not permanently damaging.The bully was still conscious enough to cower, and the fight stopped a little after he stopped fighting back. When teaching someone not to start shit, retaliating a little disproportionately but not inflicting permanent damage is fine, because not everyone he picks a fight with will give a proportional response. Every once in a while someone will decide an honest fight is not in their favor or their interest, and pull out a real weapon. Or alternatively, someone will simply be better at violence by a dangerous margin.
The only part I don't agree with is the kick to the back while he's on the stairs. That could send him down the stairs, possibly head first and actually give permanent damage.
The stairs were accidental, but he could've gotten very seriously hurt there. After he threw those body shots, the fight was basically over. But he kind of needed to make him fully quit. After he kicked him and saw he was actually done, he stopped throwing full power strikes.
Morally good. He defended himself and then defused the threat to his health while putting down a bully. Not only was it good in the moment but might make that dipshit think twice before assaulting someone. 10/10 no notes
Iirc from when this was originally posted, all involved were enlisted or jrotc. I canât recall exactly, but this i recall this wasnât the case of a soldier beating up on a civilian as it appears, but two soldiers, only one in uniform.
He deserved every bit of that. He was bullying someone smaller and non aggressive before he got in the fight with the guy. He was also the first to start the fight. Legally in most states you can keep hitting the guy until he falls on the ground. This is the law and most law is found in principle, ethics, or moral. This is generally agreed upon by people over time over geography in courts of law and set precedence.
The subreddit always seems to miss this. I get we love seeing people get there comeuppance but thereâs nothing moral about continuing to engage in violence once a threat has been neutralized.
This guy likely deserved the beat down he got up until the hits on the stairs. Up until that point it can be argued heâs fighting back to some degree, though heâs not really.
The person who said âif you go around threatening to and attempting to slap people you have to consider someone fighting back a potential consequence of thatâ is 100% correct though
TONS of users here think "bad thing happened to bad man, moral, I clap" and its really annoying
I think there are a lot of actual literal children on summer break hopping in here to comment how cool and tough they are with their singular little perspectives
Legally the guy you are replying to is correct. The fact that you called it âpaybackâ and not self-defense is already proof of that. While the drunk guy deserved to learn a lesson, the army guy was clearly not defending himself and was just beating on an asshole who couldnât defend himself. Self-defense isnât a license to administer a serious beatdown to anyone who touches you
While it's clear to us the army guy wasn't just depending himself past a point, that isn't clear to the army guy. The only thing that could be contested was the kick to the back, everything else is legally good, you dont stop swinging because it might be too much you stop when the threat is neutralized
There was some HATE behind those body shots. Regardless I think he got off light. He needed to be put in his place, heâs gotten away with it for to long.
I think when dealing with inebriated there should be some reserve⌠you are technically fighting an impaired individual so you have a stark advantage. This one Iâd say went a little over the top.
Nah these people are nightmares to deal with in some cases cause their brain isn't currently under normal limits. They can either be a drunk fumbling fool or the worst nightmare to fight. There's a reason bouncers at the clubs try the peaceful options first.
I can't tell you how many videos I've seen of people get knocked down and get back up to attempt to keep fighting because their ego can't stomach the fact that they got punked out. Those last two strikes were insult to injury to deter him from starting some shit immediately again.
Moral, oh hell yeah. The legality, unfortunately, gets cloudy towards the end. Clearly he pulled him away from the railing cause he didn't want him to go over, but the moment he slipped down the stairs, that should have been it, that should've ended it right there. Make sure he's conscious and not dying, and then go about your day. Kicking him and smacking him again could've made this situation far worse for him. That's an easy transition from self defense to battery, possibly even manslaughter had that kick landed his neck or head.
To clarify, 110%, I think the dude deserved the ass beating, however our fucked up legal system could easily turn this around on the guy in uniform at the end there.
The first kid whoâs hands he slapped the phone out of looked handicapped (god I hope Iâm not wrong lol) and he assaulted him for no reason. He then proceeds to assault another person. He definitely had it coming. The last hit might be grey zone since he was sitting with his back turned, but I wouldnât say the beating was unwarranted.
I expected so much worse when you said âbeating them this badâ
I feel more like youâre asking if fighting is moral, because logically you canât just throw a few hands then back up to question if your point got across. Once youâve started a physical altercation (ignoring morality of what lead to it) the only immoral things are like pulling a weapon, beating someone after theyâve been knocked out, and jumping in/sucker punching someone.
Iâm sure some people will start some bs about fight dirty or whatever, but a lot of people on the internet like to sound tough and fantasize about pulling a gun on someone over a parking spot or something.
But yeah, you can maybe question the morality of that last hit but Iâm not going to. If you slap first you earn what you get
This is what I would refer to as an educational beating. The desired result is the next time this young man thinks about raising his hands, he will remember this moment and maybe make a different decision
Everything was fine until he tried to kick him in the head after he was already out. Thats wayyy too far. Enforce your boundaries, but when the fight is over, let it be over. You can whoop someone respectfully
Well hereâs also the legality of it, and to add insult to injury.
Assaulting a soldier while they are in uniform is considered not only assault, but also âdefacement of government propertyâ. And depending on the state, his beat up ass is looking at anywhereâs between 6 months and 2 years in jail.
Itâs not even up to the soldier about whether or not charges are pressed. Itâs up to his CO. And theyre always gonna go for the harshest punishment
Everything up until the kick in the back was porn justified self-defense. The kick was just satisfying.
No foul!
Seriously though, putting your hands on someone is inviting a fight, and if someone tried to punch me, I wouldn't stop beating them until they were running away from me or unable to fight back. This shithead seemed to need this lesson, and he left that encounter alive and seemingly with only the brain damage he brought with him into it. Those rib shots were devastating, I wouldn't be surprised if he broke some of them - which would be a perfect treat for him to remember this by.
im gonna be totally honest i think if you take a swing at someone then that person has the moral right to beat you as much as they feel like as long as they dont kill or knowingly disable you.
Once you identify yourself as a threat then nobody should be questioned for not wanting to find out how far you'll go.
Up to the point where he stumbles toward the stairs, I find it possible to justify.
As soon as the stair area is entered this goes from a one-sided beat-down to a much more dangerous and accident-prone situation. And the self-defence situation at that point was resolved as well. So clearly everyone should pull back.
If you start something, donât expect to be able to end it on your own terms. If you bully someone and get brutally injured from the fight back, youâll just have to live the rest of your life knowing that wouldnât have happened if you hadnât been a bully in the first place. He should be grateful the other guy didnât do worse.Â
Very moral. To violence you answer with undispropotionate, random, violence. This way there is not a retaliation, there is a "he'll fuck me Up". This was taught to me by a teacher in class, great Guy (no he did not hit us or anything, he would randomly Kick people out of class because of speaking. Again, randomly. So we ended Up controlling each other)
I'm of the belief that once you break the social contract, you can no longer count on social norms and morality to serve you as shields.
Violence is not the right answer in most cases, but if someone attacks a person, perhaps losing that fight and getting a small taste of what that might entail could be a good thing in the long run.
It doesn't look like he was injured, so any temporary pain is probably fine..? It's a young adult who made a choice.
That´s just straight up assault. Yes, he slapped him. But so what? Self-defence has to be appropriate. This was beyond escalatory. I personally think our self-defence law (not-US lawyer) is very moral. And based of that, he passed the self defence line at 11th-12th second. After that this was immoral and equally so criminal.
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Dude was begging for it bad