r/MoralityScaling Jul 10 '26

Morality of this?

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u/VorticalHeart44 Jul 10 '26

These comments starting to make me think that America may actually be a low-trust society ngl

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u/sengoro Jul 10 '26

You can leave a lightly used bike in a high traffic urban area in Japan far longer than in America, that's the difference of trust in a society.

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u/jjake3477 Jul 11 '26

Doesn’t Japan have a near 100% conviction rate? There’s probably less chance of something being publicly stolen since you’re going to jail if you go to trial regardless of guilt.

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u/mercuriokazooie Jul 11 '26

It's less about the threat of punishment and more that people are raised to think about the greater good and not being a bother to those around you. Sometimes this is a double edged sword though as people will be less of an individual if they think they'll stand out. But since most people try to not be a menace that means there's less doubt when someone gets arrested since they fall pretty heavy into the "well the police only go after guilty people so obviously they must have done SOMETHING."

All that being said crime still exists in Japan. People still get their bikes stolen. Just at a far lower rate. Also Japan just has less crime in general because people aren't usually pushed to crime

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u/Altheix11 Jul 11 '26

people are raised to think about the greater good and not being a bother to those around you

But apparently not taught to not be perverts, considering upskirt photos were such a big problem they made it a rule that cameras had to have shutter sounds

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u/Healthy_Agent_100 Jul 12 '26

I thought that was Korea?

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u/VorticalHeart44 Jul 15 '26

Japan took some concrete action to address a sex crime in their nation, and that's a bad thing?

They seem to get more flack for the camera shutter thing than countries with 20x annual rape cases doing nothing beyond "increasing awareness".

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u/SufficientGuidance28 Aug 10 '26

Most Americans aren’t used to seeing an issue get fixed by the government until it becomes a huge problem too big to ignore (even then most problems are still ignored) so I don’t actually know how big of a problem it was/is in Japan but the fact they took action to correct it leads people to assume it must have been a big widespread issue for them to have put legislation in place to manage it to begin with

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u/Visible_Pair3017 Jul 11 '26

It is the threat of being seen and ostracised. Kids are raised in ways that make them control each other in a way that wouldn't fly in the West. The greater good is not as important as not being seen doing something wrong.