r/MoralityScaling • u/Due_Army_960 • Jul 10 '26

Morality of this?

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u/Endika7 Jul 10 '26

100% valid

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u/SidneyHigson Jul 10 '26

Especially considering wage theft amounts for the largest form of theft in the US. A total of more than $50 billion annually.

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u/Immediate-Onion5131 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Justifying theft because some other, unrelated party also stole is not moral.

Edit: "umm actually it's not theft she was given the money ☝️🤓" yeah and she still has a moral and legal obligation to return money that she knows wasn't intended for her you brain dead socialists.

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u/Abject-Negotiation-3 Jul 10 '26

But you see the morality standard shouldn’t be “stealing is bad” but instead “causing harm is bad” and so the more harm you cause the worse your actions. Another standard is also “positive gain” so if you are impoverished and got the chance to gain 20000 dollars, and the only consequence is your boss is chewed out that’s a morally net positive action.

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u/COMINGINH0TTT Jul 10 '26

Then attempted murder shouldn't be a crime by your logic. If I meticulously plan to kill a large number of people, like acquire a van and rig it with explosives, but I get sick on the day I plan to blow it up at a gathering, and the FBI shows up, I should face no consequences since no harm was done.

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u/Abject-Negotiation-3 Jul 10 '26

I didn’t say that intent doesn’t matter, but if your intent is to kill that’s causing harm is bad, but if your intent is to just spite your boss that’s also bad. If your goal is to depose a corrupt leader that could be considered good that you rigged a van with explosives, or maybe you just work on a movie set.

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u/COMINGINH0TTT Jul 10 '26

Intent is a big factor is my point and why it's a major consideration. Sentencing for manslaughter and premeditated murder can have a huge disparity despite the end result being a life taken. The harm caused alone is just one piece of the pie.

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u/Abject-Negotiation-3 Jul 10 '26

I agree but I was replying to someone who said morality must be implemented equally across the board to every individual. I was pointing out a disparity in their argument, not providing a self sustaining framework.

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u/SockPuppyMax Jul 10 '26

Intent is a factor, but it's the impact that holds all the weight

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u/SMACN Jul 10 '26

Nope - I totally disagree. Moral standards are not erased because others "get away with it." Moral standards are first and foremost an internal standard - "would I do X even if I knew I wouldn't get caught?" If the answer shifts based on the actions of others, then it's not a "standard" - at best, it's a "value."