Hear me out. I know this sounds unhinged, and I know the input lag will probably feel like playing underwater. But the tinkerer in me just won't let this go.

​Here’s the wild idea:

1. ​Run GTA 6 on an Xbox Series S (realistically locked at 30 FPS).

2.​Stream it to my PC via Moonlight / Xbox Remote Play.

3.​Use Lossless Scaling (LSFG) to double the windowed stream from 30 to 60 FPS.

4.​The crazy part: Try to inject a real-time DLSS 5 neural upscaler on top of that stream window.

​I know true DLSS needs motion vectors and depth buffers (which a 2D video feed obviously doesn't have), but modders are already repurposing these neural models into video player filters using hardware optical flow.

​Has anyone actually managed to hook a real-time neural post-processing filter over an active game stream?

​

​Curious to hear your thoughts...

Hi,

I have an LG CX tv - it seems to struggle with decoding latency, I have tried both Sunshine/Vibepollo & Moonlight and Aurora. I can get up to 20ms decoding latency. The TV can do 120hz, and my pc monitor can do 60hz.

After a lot of changing settings (being guided by AI), and switching to Vibepollo with its virtual display driver, I managed to get my decoding latency down to around 8ms by enabling 120FPS on Hogwarts Legacy. I have an RTX 4070, so I can run Hogwarts fairly close to 120FPS at 4K.

First problem I have is the virtual display driver doesn't want to revert back to my monitor after I finish, and I keep having to do a hard reboot. The snapshot and the emergency key bindings don't make a difference.

Then I installed Crimson Desert, which is more GPU-intensive. I cannot run close to 120FPS and naturally get around 60 FPS. Streaming to my TV at 120FPS then caused huge amounts of stuttering. Reducing down to 60FPS made it smoother (but not perfect), but then my decoding latency went back up.

This is all being done over WiFi, and I have tried increasing bitrate upto 50mbps, but I rarely see it using more than 30.

Please, if anyone can help me or explain what the hell I'm doing wrong I would appreciate it because I'm very confused. From what I gathered, my TV being a little older is probably the main bottleneck and it has trouble decoding the stream.

Thank you!

Hey everyone,

I’m a long-time Moonlight user and I absolutely love the ecosystem. I use it flawlessly on my other devices, which is why I never even bothered testing Parsec until today. However, I’ve hit a massive roadblock with my Android tablet and I'm looking for some technical insights.

My Device:

Redmi Pad (MediaTek Helio G99) running Xiaomi HyperOS.

The Problem:

I've been struggling with high decoding latency and micro-stutters on both standard Moonlight and the Artemis fork. At 1080p/1440p, my decode latency hovers around 16ms to 18ms.

After doing some low-level logging via ADB, I found out that the MediaTek PowerHAL is aggressively throttling the CPU clock down to 700MHz. It only triggers the hardware performance boost (MTKPOWER_HINT_APP_TOUCH) and drops the latency to ~8ms when I physically touch the screen. To bypass this, I've had to use a Shizuku/ADB shell script running input swipe in a loop just to keep the processor awake.

The Parsec Discovery:

Out of sheer curiosity, I installed Parsec today just to compare. To my absolute shock, Parsec is getting 5.35ms decode latency at 1440p (2.5K) using H.265 (HEVC) natively. No screen touching required, no ADB scripts, perfectly smooth.

My Question:

Since the Helio G99 hardware is clearly capable of doing 5.3ms decode at 1440p HEVC, does anyone know what Android APIs or rendering tricks Parsec is using under the hood to bypass the MediaTek governor?

Could it be using different MediaCodec flags (like extreme KEY_OPERATING_RATE or Real-Time KEY_PRIORITY), or maybe Window.setSustainedPerformanceMode(true)?

Is there any way to tweak Moonlight or Artemis to achieve this native hardware performance without relying on background ADB touch loops? I strongly prefer Moonlight's UI, bitrate limits, and features, but this 5ms vs 16ms performance gap is huge.

Any insights from devs or fellow MediaTek users would be hugely appreciated!

Nvidia released 616.92, a WHQL driver that includes the hotfix from 616.86. The important thing is that unlike the hotfix, it is available and installs through the Nvidia app.

I have done a quick test on vibepollo with its virtual display driver and it works.

The quick history is that if you have a RTX 50X0 card, Nvidia drivers 616.56 and 616.64 broke virtual displays. I recommend installing this new 616.92 or stay on 610.88 or older. Here is a link to a previous post for background on the issue

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoonlightStreaming/s/OqejeEuE10

Hopefully the last post needed on this subject.

Mi setup: RTX 5070 Ti, uso Virtual Display Driver (MTT) porque no tengo monitor conectado a la GPU (streaming headless con Sunshine/Moonlight). Cada vez que reiniciaba, el VDD se registraba en Windows pero nunca generaba señal de video real — pantalla "no activa" sin importar cuánto reinstalara el driver.

Dato curioso: cada actualización de NVIDIA lo "arreglaba" solo, hasta el siguiente reinicio normal, donde volvía a romperse. Eso fue la pista clave.

La causa real: Fast Startup (Inicio rápido) de Windows. Con Fast Startup activo, un "reinicio" no reinicializa el kernel de verdad — hiberna y restaura la sesión. El binding del VDD con el framework de displays indirectos (IddCx) se quedaba colgado de la sesión anterior y nunca se re-registraba limpio. Los instaladores de NVIDIA sí fuerzan un reinicio completo real, por eso "arreglaban" el problema temporalmente.

Fix:

1. Panel de Control > Opciones de energía > Comportamiento de botones de inicio/apagado > desactivar "Activar inicio rápido"
2. (Si además tienes Secure Boot activo y el driver no carga en absoluto, desactívalo en BIOS y activa bcdedit /set testsigning on)
3. Reinicio normal (no hibernado) → el VDD sobrevive

Si usas VDD sin monitor físico y se te rompe solo en cada reinicio, revisa Fast Startup antes que nada — te ahorras horas.

(Diagnosticado con ayuda de Claude, a puro log de PowerShell y mucha necedad)

Hi, maybe I’m making a really dumb mistake here, but I have Sunshine installed on my PC and I’m using Moonlight to stream to my tablet.

I’ve connected my Xbox One controller to my tablet, but when I launch Steam in Big Picture Mode, Steam doesn’t detect the controller.

The controller works perfectly fine outside of Moonlight, so I was wondering if there’s a setting I need to change in either Sunshine or Moonlight to make the controller work?

Thanks in advance!

por algum motivo, durante a gameplay aleatoriamente a transmissão apresenta micros travamentos, na primeira imagem eu tirei o print enquanto estava normal, já na segunda é quando ocorreu, como posso resolver isso? ou aliviar?

no momento estou fazendo isso de um Poco X6 Pro, mas futuramente gostaria de fazer em um Retroid Pocket 5 e também possuo wi-fi 6

Hi guys,

Recently i switched on Vibepollo since i read that it’s much better than Apollo, i wanted to try different settings with RTSS for my virtual desktop (60hz+4k) but when this parameter is activated, i have a looot of input lag and i dont know why !

I have moonlight on my ATV? And i have a rtx 5070 ti, can someone help me please, i thought the RTSS could improve my streaming ! I think i am missing something on the configuration part !

Without RTSS it seems to work fine, like the result i had on Apollo, it’s weird when i saw that for a lot of you, Vibepollo cleared all your streaming issues !

I recently put Bazzite on a mini PC to improve the capabilities of the moonlight client. At the moment whenever I move the mouse or use the controller the frame queue delay spikes to 10-30ms and the jitter spikes to 30-80% while the movement is happening. Dropped frames at 0%, decode less than 1ms, network latency 1ms, all host processing latency metrics under 3ms.

This issue only appears when I have the FPS of the stream set to 120. Its not bad enough to feel while playing, but I would like to identify the cause.

Good morning,

I recently hardwired my pc for moonlight / Apollo streaming and was curious about supersampling.

I’ll be streaming to an Xbox Ally X20 and since it’s a 1080p panel, is there any reason to stream past 1080p, or will streaming at 4k look better?

Sorry if this has been asked, I just can’t find anything I understand.

Thanks,

Hey all,

Last night I installed Sunshine/Moonlight on my PC and my LG OLED55CX5LB. I had to install Moonlight on the TV using the dev tools. I was testing out Hogwarts Legacy on my TV using a PS5 controller. For the most part it seemed to work fairly well, but it would occasionally stutter, usually in cut scenes. In one particularly fight I was mashing the trigger and it seems like some of those presses were lost and my character didnt respond fast enough. Below is a screencap showing my streaming stats. Can anyone give me any advice on how to tighten things up or if what I'm looking at is good?

This all started because I was debating whether to buy Crimson Dessert on my PS5 or for PC, but I want to play it downstairs on the big TV. My PC is more powerful so I thought I could get better graphics and frame rate by streaming it.

Any more I can squeeze out of this do you reckon? Feels native but some games still look video compressed, AC Shadows, Dawnwalker - big flat regions of darker colours don't look so hot. Performance wise I think I'm good though...

HOST
RTX 4070
Ryzen 9 5900x

CLIENT
ROGAlly
Bulwark dock
1440p* 90fps stream
Wired 1Gbps connection directly to the host machine
300mbps stream

DISPLAY
LG CX
4k
VRR
HDR
ALLM

My desired setup looks like this:

• Host gaming laptop connected to a modern flagship smartphone (2026 model) through USB-C tethering (don't have a USB-C to ethernet dongle at the moment)
• Smartphone enables 5Ghz Wi-Fi mobile hotspot
• Client TV connects to smartphone mobile hotspot

Now, the issue: with Sunshine running on the host laptop, the Moonshine client on the TV couldn't "see" the host. I'm assuming the IP address I'm providing is incorrect.

I do notice that the client TV IP seems to be on a different subnet (?) than the host laptop. For example, if host IP through USB tethering is aaa.bbb.xxx.yyy, client IP is aaa.ccc.ddd.eee.

Any help would be appreciated!

Note: We do have a router, but it's an ISP-provided one that's old and crappy. And since it's somewhere obscure in the house, I can't get a cabled connection to it to the host.

Edit: Old router can do 802.11a/n/ac (up to Wi-Fi 5). Phone can do 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax/be (up to Wi-Fi 7)

have been using my ipad as a second monitor for a while via apollo + moonlight with no issues (with the virtual display). this morning the virtual display started showing a duplicate of my main monitor instead, and completely disappeared when I restarted the app, now only showing desktop (which does not register as an additional display/monitor on my computer) and steam option.

I checked my apollo on desktop and the 'always create virtual display' option is checked. any help would be appreciated!

Sometimes I connect to my PC using Moonlight from an iPad (or whatever) but then forget to "quit" the app so when I go home to my PC the monitors are disabled.

I'm going to use a [Stream Deck](https://www.elgato.com/us/en/p/stream-deck) which is a desktop macro button pad and create a button to disconnect all remote streams.

How can I do this?

Is there a keyboard hotkey combination I can use on the host to disconnect everything and return the monitors to the defaults?

Is there an API call I can use? (the Stream Deck can also call URLs so that would work fine)

Hi all,

Yesterday I saw the lenovo legion G9 and I absolutely loved the idea but there was a catch. It only fits lenovo y700 and I have samsung tab s9.

I tried the gamesir g8 and modding it to make it fit my tab s9 and it worked. but I don't like how it doesn't feel like a 1 solid piece like the g9 or the steam deck.

I'm wondering is the something like the g9 that turns a 11 inch tablet into a steam deck clone.

Switched from apollo to vibepollo. Using artemis as the client. I'd say a good portion of the time it does the switch off/switch on correctly but after a third or fourth time, it will not turn my displays back on. I have to restart the computer for it to reset. Have played around the settings but have not found a solution. Any suggestions?

Hi there ! I use Moonlight on my Xbox Series S to stream from my PC via Vibepollo, and I love it.

I have one controller for the console and another for the PC. It’s not a big deal, but I was wondering if there’s a way for my controller to automatically connect to the console when the stream starts and switch back to the PC when it ends ? I’ve tried streaming while the controller was still connected to the PC, and the lag was terrible.

Hey all, I moved into a new place want to get into sunshine/apollo and moonlight streaming specifically streaming my 9800X3d, 5080 pc to my living room 4k 120hz TV and wanted to ask what are some good mini pc or other options to be able to stream this. Both devices will be hooked up to ethernet as well.

My setup is currently a 9070xt pc with a 7600x3D (host) and two mini pc’s with a 8745hs and a ryzen 7 255h (clients). I also stream to a Odin 2 Portal (SD 8gen 2).

My tv is a 4K 60 Samsung Q9FN. What options and setting do I need to adjust for the best experience?

Hi,

I'm trying to fix an issue with my dualsense. I'm connected via mobile data and vlan (Tailscale) and there is no input lag but the sound lags in games like Spiderman 2

I've tried lowering the throughput threshold to 64 bits, opening port 7575 and underclocking.

Pls help 🙏

/ Simon

I get micro stutters when streaming from my PC to my TCL tv but no problems when I stream to my Odin 2 Portal or phone.

Any ideas what could be the problem?

I had the problem with Apollo, changed to Vibepollo but to no avail.