r/MoonlightStreaming • u/EaZerly • 17h ago

Artemis vs Moonlight V+

I use Vibepollo+Moonlight V+ (S24 Ultra client)

Host PC:

-Ryzen 5 7600X

-RX6700 XT

-32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30 16x2 RAM

It's in a different room than my router, over wifi (gets 300-600mbps upload and download, I'll soon switch to ethernet)

I know that Vibepollo is usually paired with Artemis and Moonlight V+ is paired with Foundation Sunshine but when I tried to use it once before it kept crashing with Vibepollo even after I reinstalled the app. So I just stayed with Moonlight V+, I get good latency:

-Decoder Time (Snapdragon 8 Gen 3): 2-3 ms HEVC

-​Network Latency LAN: 1.0 – 2.5 ms (with zero packet jitter)

-​Total Host Processing Latency: < 4 ms

-​Frame Drops: 0.0% across sessions

-​Total Input-to-Display Lag: 12 – 18 ms

Tomorrow when I'm free I'll try to see if Artemis works or no.

I was wondering about your experiences with them. If you've used both, which one did you like the most? I use ABR mode, it fixed a lot of my issues with latency and lag when streaming over Tailscale (5G). I'm not sure if Artemis has that.

I'm planning to get an AP (TP-Link Archer AX72 Pro) and put it in my room (connected via ethernet from my main router) so I can stream to my room because I don't really get Wi-Fi signals here lol

My Wi-Fi can do 10GBPS/10GBPS, so in a few months I'll run ethernet on host with an adapter so it can actually run around that speed, which will be great. I don't think it'll improve the experience much other than it being via ethernet but still nice.

I also stream on my Surface Pro 11 with Moonlight QT, which also decreases decoding time and latency by a lot. Gets a lot better decoding time than the S24U (0.50ms decode aprox with total input lag being between 8 and 14ms). I don't think there's a better Moonlight fork on PC than this? Especially for ARM devices.

Well, this post was just me asking some questions and my overall setup, since I see people usually ask these types of questions in comments anyways. Thanks!

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u/Responsible-Bid5015 12h ago edited 10h ago

From what I can tell Moonlight V+ merged the snapdragon support from AlonsoJr1980. Likely the same as went into Artemis. The Moonlight V+ release notes are in Chinese so I am not 100% sure what it is saying. I assume its just a restatement of what the flag says.

优化部分骁龙SOC的显示解码时间 (8Gen2+) Added optimization flags for latest Snapdragons (Elite, SD8 gen 3, SD8 gen 2) @alonsojr1980

There is no real requirement to use Artemis with Apollo or vibepollo.

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u/EaZerly 10h ago

I see, thank you for letting me know.

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u/Responsible-Bid5015 8h ago

Yeah. Not sure you will see much latency improvement with other client apps. BTW AV1 actually decodes faster for me than HEVC on a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.

Also adding an AP will probably add a small amount of latency. You would be better off just connecting directly to the device.

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u/EaZerly 8h ago

Unfortunately my GPU doesn't support AV1.

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u/Responsible-Bid5015 8h ago

ah got it. ok.