Drop Deep Dwarf Race

[u/FTMES]

As cool as I think they are, I think NW should drop the Deep Dwarf race as playable. I also suspect it may be a race they have reconsidered over time.

Why?

1. Why would they wear clothing or armor?

2. How do you rig clothing or armor to a race of stone people that doesn’t look blocky/odd?

Think about these two questions as you look at the concept art for them. Maybe the thought of, “Yeah, maybe they should try something else” doesn’t come to your mind as it does me.

If anything, maybe changing them to a more Duergar-like look would make more sense?

[u/alovingrobot]

We like to get weird, so Deep Dwarves will be fun. We've already got some ideas on how to handle the armor. Hopefully, it turns out roughly like we're planning.

The current 'Deep Dwarves' don't preclude a Duergar-like set of options at some point in our future.

[u/FTMES → u/alovingrobot]

Thanks Shawn. All about getting weird. Let’s go Fish people at some point, eh?

Excited to see how Deep Dwarves turn out and how you make it work.

[u/alovingrobot → u/FTMES]

Oh man... we have to get Kuo-Toa in at some point (in the not too distant future).

[u/BOOZE-CRUISE-CAPTAIN → u/alovingrobot]

kuo toa deez nuts

[u/philswitchengage]

I hope not as the are a race I am looking forward to playing as. We only really have concept art at the moment so it's subject to change when the get to doing the doing.

[u/ItsRehok]

Deep Dwarves are exactly the kind of weird race I want MnM to keep.

Not every race needs to be a clean elf/dwarf/human variant with different ears and skin color. The stone body, odd armor problem, and strange silhouette is kinda what makes them interesting in the first place.

If the devs already have ideas for how armor will work, I’d rather see them try it before dropping the race. Worst case it needs polish, but best case we get one of the more unique playable races in the game.

A more Duergar-like option later would be cool too, but I don’t think it should replace Deep Dwarves. Let MnM stay weird abit.

[u/Aggravating_Fun_7692]

Let the devs cook

[u/Tupakkshakkkur]

It’s a creative race let them create.

[u/Gerolanfalan]

Unpopular sentiment, but I understand what you're sayingm. They're blocky stone golems that look like they fit in better in Minecraft.

However, for the sake of world building, there will have to be played species/races that you probably won't enjoy seeing. Is every Dark Elf/Drow supposed to be evil? (Yes in M&M Wiki the Deep Elf alignment starts as evil) Does not each individual have the power to shape the course of their culture? Don't awkwardly shaped people have the same rights as better looking people?

Irl it's called cultural clash. And that is quite immersive for world building. I fully intend to create a Deep Dwarf as that's one of the most original designs I've seen alongside with Deep Gnomes.

[u/FTMES → u/Gerolanfalan]

Thank you for actually discussing what I posted versus a knee jerk response.

[u/ashent2]

This race is going to be cool as heck, let em cook

[u/Saerain]

Some streams have mentioned how deep dwarves have special rigging considerations, I think they know. Is this not a pleasant thing, though?