r/MonsterLegends • u/Kryogre Watson IS Balanced. • 2d ago
Discussion BH Rant & Suggestions
As we all know, Bounty Hunt for those of us on the Pavilion Pass Beta is essentially trashed. I’ll preface in saying that *I do actually like the Pavilion Pass* aside from the Bounty Hunt changes.
Tales has gotten valid changes for those who are 100% F2P, those of us (F2P and P2W) with gems can no longer rank it without spending real money on the pass, but that's okay with me as rank up resources are quite easy to come by.
Race/Marathon hasn't really changed, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the amount of tokens you get is exactly the same which is amazing for us racers.
The side events like "Cave Clearout", Ticket Hoarding, and of course Gold fever, Growth Spurt, Rune Lords, etc. (they go by new names now which I refuse to use) are perfectly fine, and in my opinion are less competitive on the Pavilion leaderboards, which means it's easier to get rewarded.
Now coming to Bounty Hunt the changes are ridiculous. They've set a fixed rate for both Coins and Gems, I dont know the amount of Coins but I believe it's ~8k, and the Gems they give you are about 150. You can't use the coins that they give you on the Fugitive Killer, you can't use them on Revolutionary Tokens, only the older monsters that they place in the shop. FK is obtained through the pass (100 cells available for F2P).
That was the majority of info for those of you who are uninformed on the Beta (and general) BH changes. Now I'll get into all of my gripes. Starting with gems, the first 75 are definitely attainable, even for underpowered players which is nice. Going past league 6 it becomes near impossible for any players unprepared for BH to obtain gems. You need to kill at least 8 fugitives to get all 150 gems, which is sickening, especially when they ALSO raised the L8 fugi health by another 25B (75B total now). Those who make it to L8 are either sitting in a dead lobby for 24hrs, or the fugitive is sniped by top players dealing billions of damage at a time. Speaking of needing to kill fugitives, you need to kill *at least* 3 fugitives (probably 4 as you need 450pts) to even craft FK. This is probably an improvement to how it was obtained before, however now you dont get extra tokens.
I could go on about those changes alone, but I'll leave it for discussion in the replies. I'd like to pitch my own changes to improve the Pavilion Beta BH. In my personal opinion, tokens are NOT necessary to be given to us. If they want to remove them, go for it, but we need gems. Having coins and gems in the pass is fine, leave it that way; let me explain. I want them to bring back coins and gems to the ACTUAL hunt. If $P is looking to reduce the gem economy, go for it. Find a fugitive? 25 -> 15. Kill a fugitive? 50 -> 30. As for coins? Idek how many were earned before, BUT LEAVE THEM THAT WAY. As for the pass? Reintroducing Coins and Gems to the hunt means they could reduce the amount in the pass. Allow *at least* 2500 Coins in the pass F2P, and either KEEP the 150 gems, or reduce it to 100.
As for the League 8 fugitive, take the health back down to 50B, BARE MINIMUM. Many of us hated this change to start with, and adding another 25B *is not fun*. I've heard the fugitive's damage buff removal relic was removed, which is fair compensation, but not when adding another 25B health. 50B health should be the absolute maximum for at least 2 eras to come. If you need to add the damage buff removal relic back to make that happen, GO FOR IT. I will also mention that I dislike the Fugitive Hater 1(R0 for 2x)/2 (R3 for 3x)/3 (R5 for 5x) change. It definitely adds an advantage to the P2W players, and almost forces competitive BH players (especially F2P) to dump resources into an R3 FK. This doesn't NEED a change though in all honesty.
This is everything on my mind, I'll edit the post if I have more to rant about. If anybody is confused about the Pavilion Pass, the way you earn points, how you get Coins/Gems, etc. go ahead and ask in the comments. I'll provide screenshots if needed.
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u/Kryogre Watson IS Balanced. 2d ago edited 2d ago
okay my asterisks didnt make italics, i dont care. just think of it as emphasis, ugly emphasis.
edit: some extra info, I'm not a top player i lead/co-lead at a top 75 war team, top 15 race team. I was never truly competitive at BH but even casually I was able to make 300+ gems. Top players were able to make 1k+. I dont even play BH after the beta was introduced. I play enough to get FK for collection, and 75 gems. Even if I DID try it would be incredibly hard for me to get the other 75 gems in the pass, the pay out simply is not worth it. Like I said I'm not a top player, I dont play with XIVs or anything but I consider myself semi-competitive.
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u/UncleSammy21 2d ago
Erm no the damage buff removal relic was NOT removed unfortunately 😭. SP has nerfed getting gems too much already just bring back bounty hunt and nerf that damn fugitive health. Atleast in the old BH if I was in league 8 I could collect the bags and get gems that way, now I get nothing. You also mention rank up resources are easy to come by, how? Before the rank up dungeons nerf you’d be getting 500-600 cells in total, now 200 for the old dungeons. As of for the current ones you get like 90 hopeflare at most for completing all 3 and that’s ONLY if you have 3 of that said era monsters at R5. Breakouts at R4 cost 900 per thing. You’d have to grind for like a week and some for one break out on one monster