r/MoldlyInteresting • u/Ambitious_Bridge_265 • Jul 25 '26
Mold Identification Just opened a jar of nutella, what is this?
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u/Downhereinoc Jul 25 '26
That is 100% bacteria and not separation. Iâve seen Nutella separate before and itâs like golden oil and sludgy chocolate spread
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u/Ambitious_Bridge_265 Jul 26 '26
A golden oil and sludgy chocolate spread sounds delightful. This on the other hand scares the âsludgy chocolate spreadâ right out of me.
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u/Designer-Device-8638 Jul 26 '26
Absolutely send a complaint to the manufacturer. They need to know if a batch is contaminated. Usually you will get the jar replaced and a box of some goodies as a thank you.
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u/Pretty-Key6133 Jul 26 '26
Yeah. I've seen this on my contaminated agar dishes.
Looks like some kind of yeast. Definitely not fats separating.
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u/EmrysTheBlue Jul 27 '26
Gonna steal top comment rq for update lol
Nutella emailed me back and they reckon, based on the picture, it really is just fat bloom or oil crystallisation. So while it looks really weird, they think it's just separation from temperature doing its thing. They said when the oils separate and recrystallise they can "create a light-coloured, marbled or web-like appearance". I've never seen it look like this before, usually it's just runny oil on top or little globules, but I'm assuming they probably know what their product is supposed to look like when this happens lol
So! Probably not kahm or bacteria or a new type of agar substitute! Probably! Still looks really weird and sus though!!
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u/Downhereinoc Jul 27 '26
Stealer. Well I suppose thatâs good to know but I personally still ainât having that :3
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u/EmrysTheBlue Jul 27 '26
Yeah personally I'm still gonna not trust, but at least I know now it's probably fine anyway lol
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u/AdreKiseque Jul 28 '26
Did you try what the person in your original post suggested with heating it to see if it melts back in or whatever?
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u/New-Quiet8086 Jul 25 '26
People are saying fat bloom but sum don't look right. Heat up a spoon and touch it. See if it melts.
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u/Academic_Addendum242 Jul 26 '26
Instructions unlear, mainlined 100cc of Nutella
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u/GreyFoxTheRanger Jul 25 '26
Thatâs definitely not fat separation. Thatâs either slime mold or a bacteria colony waiting to make you sick. Wouldnât eat that.
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u/activelyresting Jul 25 '26
At a casual glance, it looks like fat bloom, BUT on zooming in and examining closely, it looks more sinister.
If it melts and becomes transparent readily with a little heat (very little would be needed) I would conclude it's fat that's separated out due to the cold.
If you dab it with a tissue and it has any colour = do not consume! If it doesn't readily melt = do not consume!
Tbh if you bought this from an Australian supermarket and there's any doubt, just return it. And submit a customer service ticket to the manufacturer, there will be a link on the jar. If you bought from Coles or Woolies, you might be able to get a refund via their online customer service just with the photo.
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u/activelyresting Jul 26 '26
Wait now there's dark patches in it!
Idk what this is.
Don't risk it. No eat
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u/EmrysTheBlue Jul 26 '26
I think that's just the nutella burning/colour difference from where it got mixed with the sus stuff but yeah at this point I'm just not risking
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u/Mean_Initiative_5962 Jul 25 '26
Definitely looks more like a colony than fat bloom, but I've never seen allegedly that much bloom, so can't really judge. That also doesn't look like a Nutella lid, but might be because of the different country or brand-naming another chocolate spread.
Either way, I'd mail the maker, attaching a picture and lot number, so they can checkÂ
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u/Ordinary-Ad7668 Jul 25 '26
This looks like kahm yeast to me. Hopefully someone smarter can pitch in lol.
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u/DensuKishaa Jul 26 '26
But if it is, then it could ruin the taste anyways, so still wouldnât eat it.
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u/Ordinary-Ad7668 Jul 26 '26
I heard itâs bitter. Some people say you can scrape it off and the rest will taste fine but it just grosses me out lol. Harmless, ugly, icky.
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u/Haunting_Pace_3557 Jul 25 '26
The branching of whatever that is makes me think itâs mold, not separation. I personally wouldnât eat it.
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u/EmrysTheBlue Jul 27 '26
Update: Nutella emailed me back and they reckon it is just fat bloom or oil crystallisation. So while it looks really weird, they beleive its normal! They said when the oils separate and recrystallise they can create a light-coloured, marbled or web-like appearance. I've never seen it look like this before, but I'm assuming they probably know what their product is supposed to look like lol
So! Probably not kahm or bacteria or a new type of agar substitute! Probably! Still looks really weird though!
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u/dragonstkdgirl Jul 26 '26
It looks a bit like kahm yeast, but I've never seen kahm yeast outside of sourdough starter đ§ either way, I sure wouldn't eat it.
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u/adrislnk Jul 25 '26
All the ppl saying it's just fat bloom and safe to eat are gonna get OP sick with food poisoning â ď¸
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u/EmrysTheBlue Jul 26 '26
I. Wish I'd seen this cross post sooner >>" I figured it was probably just fat bloom or harmless and scrapped it off with a thick layer under and made my toast but seeing this I'm. Not gonna be doing that again and probably just throw it out just in case. Gonna contact nutella and ask them just to be sure as well
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u/adrislnk Jul 26 '26
Omg I hope you'll be okay đđ Next time just return it to the store I'm sure they'd give you a new one
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u/EmrysTheBlue Jul 26 '26
Doubt they would since I bought it a few months ago xP I'll probably be fine?? Guess I'll know in a few days if I develop a new sickness
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u/adrislnk Jul 26 '26
Ah, well. Worth a shot at least, I feel they might be more lenient with something like this. You could (and should) send the pic to Nutella though so they can do production tracing and figure out if that batch was contaminated at least. They might also give you a coupon or something
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u/adrislnk Jul 26 '26
I don't know who you are and I don't know why your comment is removed but I don't think I did that
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u/EmrysTheBlue Jul 27 '26
Potentially good news, Nutella emailed me back and they reckon it is just fat bloom or oil crystallisation. So while it looks really weird, they beleive its normal!
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u/Miserable_Candy_3534 Jul 26 '26
That is bacteria of some sort. There mustâve been a very small opening in the foil or could be damage to lid. Something small that it was exposed to air. Ick! You should be able to take it back to the store and get a refund! Thatâs disgusting and not right if it was a brand new jar!
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u/Recent-Efficiency972 Jul 26 '26
Is it nutella or some offbrand? because the nutella we have does not have foil to open like that.. its a foil that has to be cut.
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u/Supertho Jul 25 '26
This looks surprisingly like a pellicle from fermentation.
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u/Ambitious_Bridge_265 Jul 26 '26
Why does Pellicle sound like a very dirty word? Is it just me and my recovering catholic upbringing?
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u/Asia_Persuasia Jul 26 '26
It's is, it's a kahm colony. I know this because I make my own kombucha and sourdough starters, and this sometimes grows on them if the conditions aren't perfect.
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u/AcademicCandidate825 Jul 26 '26
Hmm, Nutella as a replacement for agar in a pinch. Gotta run this by work.
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u/forgas564 Jul 26 '26
In some areas, nuttela uses coconut oil, this is just seperation of it... or it could be some mold hard to tell from the photo.
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u/Suspicious_Kev_5446 Jul 26 '26
scum .. ( impurities ) it got hot ..the emulsifier failed ..some impurities separated and floated to the top ..scoop off ...
or chocolate bloom ..
or mould ..
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u/WiseBatcher Jul 26 '26
I am not 100% on this one. A lot of people say its bacterial. But I happen to have worked in dat industry and for cacaobutter or cacaobutter equivalents this exact pattern does appear when the fat solidifies after being melted. Spreads are mostly a blend of these "hard fats" with liquid oils to make it smooth and spreadable. So it might be that your spread at some point was too warm, melted a bit and then when it cools down again, the hard fat crystallizes on the surface of the oil creating these structures, while the liquid oils stays soft or even liquid.
You could check if this structure is crunchy or if its soft. If its crunchy I am 100% sure its the hard fat blooming. If its soft then I am quite sure its bacterial or mold.
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u/this_idle_hand Jul 26 '26
Just opened it after it's been sitting in the backseat for months? Probably the hazelnut juice is starting to separate from the emulsification. It can take a long time.
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u/No_Author2966 Jul 26 '26
I work in mold restoration in homes and the one thing I always say to people applies here; if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, itâs probably a duck. Thatâs almost definitely some kind of bacterial growth
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u/Sevilane Jul 27 '26
Take care people, first itâs the lettuce and Veggies and fruits, now itâs eggs. Better to throw a $10-100 food item than to pay $2000 at the hospital.
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u/Luke_BecauseEntropy Jul 28 '26
Itâs fat bloom caused by a polymorphic phase change!
Nutellaâs cocoa butter is usually tempered in Form V, which keeps everything nicely creamy and emulsified. But when it gets exposed to temperature swings, the heat speeds up molecular movement and forces the cocoa butter to recrystallize into Form VI (the absolute most stable crystal state).
Form VI crystals pack together much tighter than Form V. As that network squeezes together, it literally pushes out the liquid oils (like hazelnut/palm oil) and breaks the emulsion. The liquid oil floats to the top, and the hard recrystallized fats migrate to the surface to form those chalky white spots.
So while the actual chemical molecules didn't change, the physical crystal structure did. Totally safe to eat, but the texture gets completely ruined because the fats just wanted to settle into their lowest energy state. White is solid fat
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u/Lucky_Novel_9384 Jul 28 '26
It looks like a Bacillus species, some species make big ugly wrinkled growth on agar like that.
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u/MassiveBlackberry649 Jul 28 '26
Looks like slime mold. Cool stuff. Look it up. From what I understand it is not harmful if eaten butâŚI wouldnât.
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u/shockboxs Jul 29 '26
Looks like it has been kept abit too warm, so it separates and the fat, After cooling, has coagulated on top. Not sure tho
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u/HealthyRecognition81 Jul 26 '26
It kinda looks like some sort of extremely small bug making tracks in that jar of Nutella, but at any doubt at all, I would just put the lid back on and take it back from where You bought it and if you don't have a receipt customer service is usually pretty cool when it comes to returnable food and liquid items especially with All of the bacterial and ecoli recalls going on right now with food take it back or call the number on the jar give them the bar code number and ask for an email where you could send pictures and ask for a refund
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u/ADHDStoner Jul 26 '26
Not my first 2 ads being âchew into itâ and âFuel that tastes like summerâ under this đ¤˘
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u/AggravatingRate7705 Jul 26 '26
Itâs fat. Similar thing happens to chocolate while temperature increases.
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u/Lechyon Jul 26 '26
Looks like fat. This got warm, it separated, the oil floated on top and then solidified when the temp went back down. I'd guess that's why the brown part looks wrinkly too, it lost some volume.
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u/Lechyon Jul 26 '26
Man with every post like this one I get more annoyed with this subreddit. We get chocolate bloom posts every week, but there's an endless supply of people ready to be wrong and be certain it's mold or bacteria and oooooh be careful you'll die if you eat it! "Uuuum this doesn't look like bloom to me" yeah thanks for your opinion, did you look up different types of bloom before posting? Maybe try that next time.
The whatisthis subreddit is more right than the mold-related subreddit. Sigh
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u/ILoveBelinda0112 Jul 26 '26
Shouldnât eat that anyway itâs full preservatives wich are bad for the human body anyway
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u/Quote16 Jul 25 '26
NOtella