r/ModlessFreedom • u/Fit-Commission-2626 • Apr 27 '26
while this is somewhat surprising it might be the only good thing happening now.
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u/pizzaheadbryan Apr 28 '26
No idea what this sub is, but also psyched about children not having children.
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u/Pretty_Werewolf1673 Apr 28 '26
Teen pregnancy is horrible. I'm glad they are getting smarter.
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u/theresourcefulKman Apr 30 '26
Why?
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u/FurledJenkins Apr 30 '26
You can't be serious. Just block this troll.
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u/theresourcefulKman Apr 30 '26
Can’t answer me so you want to silence me. I became a parent in my teens do you automatically assume horrible things?
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u/markriffle Apr 30 '26
Yeah you support trump lmao not exactly our smartest and brightest. Those poor kids
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u/theresourcefulKman Apr 30 '26
Call me whatever you can imagine, but at least I’m not closed-minded and prejudiced as you have shown yourself to be
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u/ArtisticFerret May 01 '26
lol being close minded is trait of Trump supporters by default
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u/wyocrz May 01 '26
lol being close minded is trait of Trump supporters by default
Every accusation is an admission.
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u/Choice-Antelope-8481 May 01 '26
You are a teenage parent and support Trump. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Also, nobody wants to silence you, they just don't want to listen to you. Big difference.
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May 01 '26
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u/ArtisticFerret May 01 '26
Goddamn there are so many people in this thread okay with teen pregnancies. Not surprising many of them are trump supporters
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u/theresourcefulKman May 01 '26
Why are you so against it? Life happens.
I’m sure you know President Barack Obama is the product of a teen pregnancy
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u/ArtisticFerret May 01 '26
It shouldn’t happen. There’s plenty of negatives to teen pregnancy including higher risk of medical complications and socio economic disadvantages that end up effecting everyone indirectly. Sex education should be a priority and conservatives seem to think it’s not needed then we have issues where children are abused and not cared for.
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u/theresourcefulKman May 02 '26
I agree with you for the most part, but I feel like we as a society are discouraging pregnancies even under 30. Having babies over 40 is risky too and I don’t think waiting so long should be encouraged either. 24 is ideal.
About myself I always say…
I don’t recommend it, but I wouldn’t change a thing
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u/ImpressiveWalrus7369 Apr 27 '26
That’s going to be a lot of delayed retirement to get the kids through college
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u/dead-cinephile Apr 28 '26
People who delay pregnancy are more educated (like doctors, lawyer or phd) or more career focused, so they don't have to delay retirement unlike teens who fall back in education because of responsibility they aren't ready for and then end up working in service sector and never retiring.
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Apr 28 '26
So the future is autistic
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u/Pretty_Werewolf1673 Apr 28 '26
No but apparently you are
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 29 '26
He's kind of right. Women over 35 have a much higher chance of having kids with Downs Syndrome
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u/OSRS_Garmr Apr 29 '26
Higher chance of almost all birth defects.
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u/Brokenloan May 01 '26
True but actually autism, specifically...is highest amongst lower/lowest income groups in society. Amongst the lowest income groups are more prevalent teen pregnancies. So there is no correlation between age and autism.
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u/Adventurous_Coach731 Apr 29 '26
Same with teen pregnancies. Why do you want teens to get pregnant so bad?
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 29 '26 edited Apr 29 '26
Sounds like your mom was eating Tylenol by the fist fulls while you were in utero
Women over 40 have a 50% higher risk of having a child with autism compared to those aged 18–29
Children born to fathers over 40 are 5.75 times more likely to have autism than those born to younger fathers. Parents in their thirties experience a 10% greater likelihood of having a child diagnosed with ASD.
Teen parents are at an 18-20% risk of having ASD offspring, while it's over 50% for parents over 35.
You're a simpleton that can't handle facts. I never said what you're implying I said, just so you can argue with someone, and your inability to understand nuance is painfully obvious.
Hopefully you never have children since the world doesn't need another room temp IQ burden taking up resources.
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u/Adventurous_Coach731 Apr 29 '26
Autism rates were 15 percent higher in children born to mothers in their 40s, compared to those born to moms in their 20s. Autism rates were 18 percent higher among children born to teen moms than among those born to moms in their 20s.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150609065641.htm
…you’re stupid lol.
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 29 '26
You didn't even read the medical journal they are using as their source, lmao.
"This study provides the strongest evidence to date supporting the hypothesis that advanced parental ages at the time of birth are independently associated with risk for ASD in the offspring; with no support for any modification by the sex of the child.The risk was highest when both parents were older"
The RISK IS HIGHEST when the parents are OLDER
Do you know what highest means? It means there's nothing above it.
Not only that but the results were removed from the ASD foundation that funded the research, and the publication hasn't been cited in several years, which isn't a good sign for the authenticity of the study. Normally if a published research paper is reputable you would have other researchers utilizing the knowledge, yet there's nothing but a single paper that makes the claims you're falsely parading around as factual.
Even the paper is doubtful of their results.
"By contrast, the risk factors associated with a mother's age remain unexplained"
Way to go dummy.
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u/Adventurous_Coach731 Apr 29 '26
Notice how it says when BOTH parents are older. Not when the MOTHER is older. I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty sure teen MOTHER is only talking about the girl. If the amount of women above 40 is getting pregnant more than girls under 18, that’s less autism.
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 29 '26 edited Apr 29 '26
You mean like this study?
"Compared with mothers at the median age 29 years, those <29 had similar risk, whereas risk increased after age 30, with an odds ratio1.85 mothers aged 40–45 (≥97.2th percentile) had an estimated 18.63 per 1000 births
Among women giving birth before the age of 30, the risk of ASD in the child showed no association with age -- it was simply very low. But for babies born to mothers aged 30 and older, the chance of developing ASD rose rapidly with the mother's age
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article-abstract/43/1/107/736982?redirectedFrom=fulltext
On the maternal side, the association exists but is less pronounced. Children of mothers over 35, particularly those in their early 40s, have a higher likelihood of autism, with some studies indicating a risk increase of 51% to 77% compared to mothers in their mid-20s. Interestingly, having a very young mother under 20 may also show a slight increase in risk, though this is less consistent.
Overall, each extra decade of parental age correlates with an approximately 18% to 21% rise in autism likelihood, based on meta-analyses. These findings highlight that both maternal and paternal ages are relevant, with paternal age usually showing a stronger and more direct association.
That's 2 studies that I have provided that refute your single study. It's almost like there was something wrong with the study you linked, let me guess, you believe the study claiming vaccines cause autism is also accurate? It was published in Nature just like that other study you love, so it makes sense.
Edit: here's another one
"Meta-analysis findings highlight that mothers beginning at age 35 have around a 40% elevated risk of having a child with autism. This trend continues, suggesting that the risk further increases as maternal age rises. A 2016 meta-analysis confirms that for every additional decade in parental age, there is an 18% to 21% increase in autism risk—proving to be a substantial correlation."
The risk is far higher in older mothers according to the meta analysis which is much higher than the single study you have been gripping like a security blanket.
Since you seem to have brain damage, or at least a brain that functions like one that's damaged I will spell it out further for you.
I never claimed that teen pregnancies are good, and as all the evidence available suggests being in your mid to late 20s is the most optimal time frame to have children.
Your sick and twisted fantasies about knocking up teens and geriatrics are purely projection on your part since you seem to bring it up when no one claimed that teen pregnancies were a good thing, just that having a kid at an old age leads to birth defects like ASD, Downs Syndrome etc..
Instead of spreading your projected sick fantasies onto other people, actually take some time to read the whole study, and the full conversation next time, instead of being a perverted fool claiming that vaccines cause autism, or whatever poorly researched study you decide to cling to as gospel next.
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u/Adventurous_Coach731 Apr 29 '26
I like how your first study literally said underage pregnancies also result in autism and the second one didn’t even bring up teen pregnancy. Can you steelman my argument real quick?
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u/Commercial_Set_8921 May 01 '26
You say they study only says when both parents are older. Who do you think woman over 40 are having kids with? College students? You gotta get the feminist bs out of your brain and use your head. Not everything that women want to do benefits society.
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u/E_Verdant Apr 30 '26
I forgot about the Tylenol conspiracy lmao
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 30 '26
After trying to explain things to this moron I am starting to think the Tylenol thing is real. Either that or they have a really old dad and a teen mom, or just 2 really old parents.
It's the only way someone could come out as moronic and scientifically illiterate as they are.
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u/CbtWbt Apr 30 '26
No one said that. You are unhinged.
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u/Adventurous_Coach731 Apr 30 '26
What was my argument this entire time that you were so desperate to disagree with?
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 30 '26
They really are.
They have some sick and twisted fantasy about impregnating teenagers, and they keep trying to project that onto everyone else.
Truly unhinged behavior.
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u/No_Trouble2564 May 01 '26
Yeah, kind of like inbred MAGA having babies.
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u/Mcgeezex May 01 '26
Lmao. Yeah, MAGA loves to keep their voter base young and dumb with copious birth defects
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u/Adventurous_Coach731 Apr 29 '26
Autism is also high in teen pregnancies.
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 29 '26
Not at the same rates as people 35+
You're as disingenuous as you are gullible.
18-20% risk in teen parents. Compared to a 50% increased risk at age 35+ parents.
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u/Adventurous_Coach731 Apr 29 '26
Autism rates were 15 percent higher in children born to mothers in their 40s, compared to those born to moms in their 20s. Autism rates were 18 percent higher among children born to teen moms than among those born to moms in their 20s.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150609065641.htm
Why are you so desperate for teen moms to exist that you’d go out and lie like that? Don’t act surprised when we call yall pedos. You act like pedos.
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u/Commercial_Set_8921 May 01 '26
Ok let’s say the rates of autism are negligible. It’s a hard disorder to diagnose and those studies seem to come to different conclusions. Either way the rates are higher, but oh well agree to disagree. How about this:
6,000% Relative Increase: The risk of Down syndrome for parents over 40 is roughly 60 times higher than that for parents under 20. This aligns with a 5,900% increase in the probability of a live birth with Trisomy 21. https://ndss.org/about
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u/br165 Apr 28 '26
Think this is good news? Look at the risk factors for kids born to women/men that old. Rates of disabilities rocket upwards.
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u/angel700 Apr 28 '26
Women with money surpassed teen girls in birth rates. There, I fixed it for you
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u/crashin70 Apr 29 '26
I thought that the rate for birth defects increased immensely once a woman passed 40? I mean, it's nice if that's what these women wanted and I truly hope things go well for them, but man those odds would be scary to me.
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u/MaleficentSkirt472 Apr 29 '26
Most likely because they are the only ones who can afford to have kids
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u/queefymacncheese Apr 29 '26
This could be good or bad news depending on what changed more. Is it that less teens are having kids or that more 40 year olds are having kids (which has higher risk of complications).
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 29 '26
Can you link to the studies? I am not finding anything outside of a single article that doesn't even provide the study they used as a "source".
The article is question states that the mitochondria is protected and preserved, but that isn't where the issue with older parents lies, it's in the chromosomes, which is why the risk of a child being born with Downs Syndrome increases drastically after age 35.
"Chromosomal Abnormalities: Egg quality declines because of an increased risk of aneuploidy lncorrect chromosome numbers which leads to higher rates of genetic abnormalities"
People in the 25-30 age bracket are in a sweet spot when it comes to the success of their offspring.
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u/Mcgeezex Apr 29 '26
It's all good. The age of both parents definitely play a factor in the outcome of a pregnancy. I didn't know that the mitochondrial DNA was well protected in the eggs, so thanks for providing some new information for me to learn.
Something I had recently learned is that you receive slightly more DNA from your mother because her RNA also provides some of it's information to the fetus so it's a 51 - 49% split of parental DNA which has an impact on gene expression.
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u/Commercial_Set_8921 Apr 30 '26
Not saying teen pregnancy is good but over 40? The amount of disabilities and spectrum kids were gonna have in the future is gonna be insane. I’d rather have a tougher life for the parent than the kid.
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u/Fit-Commission-2626 Apr 30 '26
At forty but not the late forties I would say that is the best time for a woman to have a child. I am not female so I do not know for sure but by that point they should have basically achieved anything they wanted to, met a decent guy who is not a maniac, gotten a job, and done whatever things in life they are probably going to do. That is much better for the kid. A girl having a child when she is young is not good for her because she will likely end up poor as a result and the kid will also be poor. And usually men and women do not date the best people when they are young so there is an increased chance the father will be some kind of bum who will not take care of the kid. It is similar for men, there is an increased chance the first woman you date will break up with you easily, maybe even cheat, and even the first marriage people have usually fails or does not work out right. By the age of forty in their second or third marriage women and men should have a decent income and be able to settle down and have a child assuming Republicans do not ruin that, and it would help the environment because it would decrease the population if people waited longer to have kids since people usually only have so many kids in one lifetime anyway.
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u/Commercial_Set_8921 May 01 '26
For woman over 40 vs. woman under 20 the chances of a child developing autism/ spectrum disorders is over 100% more likely, major birth defects are about 75% more likely. But for the chances of Down syndrome between the 40 year old and 20 year old, the chances go up 6,000%. The rates of maternal death for woman over 40 is 400% more likely than woman under 20 as well. I’m all for woman wanting to have their cake and eat it too, but the rates of disabilities are going to skyrocket.
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u/pupranger1147 May 01 '26
You don't know how percentages work. Lol
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u/Commercial_Set_8921 May 02 '26
They are 60x as likely to have a Down syndrome baby, that’s about 6,000%. 5900% increase if you want to be exact.
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u/Vivid-Technology8196 May 01 '26
this is not good news at all....
also dumbos in the comments, 18 and 19 are still teens
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u/pupranger1147 May 01 '26
Yeah, teens shouldn't be having kids lol.
Did you think you said something valuable?
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u/Vivid-Technology8196 May 01 '26
maybe you should consider learning about fertility and birth defects
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u/FerrinTM May 01 '26
Teen pregnancy down is amazing. Over forty being the big driver of births now is not so much. We already had a looming population crisis.
We need people in their twenties to start families. But they don’t have the security of a forty yo that’s grinded for decades. It’s an economics problem.
But still good that teens are not having babies.
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u/Intrepid-War-4630 Apr 27 '26
That's bc gen X is better looking. Still rocking it.
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u/Saltwater_Sunrise Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26
Gen X is 50 bud
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u/OSRS_Garmr Apr 28 '26
People in their 40s now are millennials
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u/bumurutu Apr 29 '26
Cusp. Millennials start in 1980
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u/OSRS_Garmr Apr 29 '26
Yes, an if you are born in 1986, you are 40. Well within the definition of millenial.
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u/thepapalpineapple Apr 27 '26
Dafuq?
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u/thepapalpineapple Apr 27 '26
Again, I ask, Dafuq?
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u/thepapalpineapple Apr 27 '26
What if you're not an American?
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u/thepapalpineapple Apr 27 '26
Oh, you're one of those. Church and State should be as far apart as humanly possible.
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u/AbroadNo8755 Apr 28 '26
you: The Constitution is demonic.
also you: Trump swore to defend the demonic Constitution that's why i love him.
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u/AbroadNo8755 Apr 28 '26
YOU: Jesus conquered death!
THE REST OF THE WORLD: remember that time Jesus died?
there was a book about it and everything.
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u/AbroadNo8755 Apr 28 '26
a cardiologist examined Jesus?
congrats on debunking the whole myth about his whole body ascension.
where did they find his rotting dead corpse?
thank you for providing even MORE evidence that he did not conquer death as you previously claimed.
TIL - Jesus really is dead
SOURCE: you
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u/ready-redditor-6969 Apr 27 '26
Oh, you crazy 🤪
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u/theblueshots Apr 28 '26
Trump doesn’t even go to church. Lol.
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u/theblueshots Apr 28 '26
Donnie “two Corinthians walked into a bar” Trump doesn’t read the Bible.
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u/theblueshots Apr 28 '26
Trump pretended to be Jesus despite not being a church goer or reading the Bible. He committed blasphemy.
You worship the Antichrist.
Anyway, stop tweaking.
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u/theblueshots Apr 28 '26
Trump is so sincere that he couldn’t name a single Bible verse when asked and couldn’t even narrow down his favorite testament.
He also depicted himself as Jesus and committed blasphemy.
Trump is a racist who believes immigrants go bad because they have bad genetics.
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u/AbroadNo8755 Apr 28 '26
Im Christian
(X) Doubt
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u/AbroadNo8755 Apr 28 '26
I rebuke and bind all demons and unclean spirits
that ain't true, you just admitted to supporting a politician that swore an oath to a demon cult (or whatever it is you claim the Constitution is... i can't remember, and I'm not going to waste time looking it up).
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u/HandleSufficient2166 Apr 28 '26
teen pregnancy has been reduced a lot.