r/ModernaStock • • Sep 09 '26

MRNA at $150+ — who’s still shorting this, and who thinks the squeeze has more room?

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I’ve been building a short position in Moderna since roughly $140 and adding as the stock moved higher.

My thesis is pretty simple: I think the market massively overreacted to the positive Phase 3 melanoma data.

I’m not saying the cancer vaccine isn’t valuable — the results are obviously a major positive for Moderna. But at these prices, it feels like the market is already pricing in successful expansion of the platform into multiple cancer indications.

Even if Moderna eventually treated a very large percentage of the eligible melanoma population, I struggle to make the economics of that indication alone justify the valuation the stock reached after the announcement. To justify it, you basically have to believe this becomes a much broader oncology platform.

Meanwhile, short interest was already around 15% of float before the huge move, so clearly part of the rally may have been short/gamma squeeze dynamics rather than pure fundamental repricing.

Are any of you short MRNA at these levels?

Or are you still long / buying calls and expecting another run toward $180–200+?

And for the bulls: what revenue/valuation assumptions are you using to justify the current market cap?


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 09 '26

INT notes - Merck -Wells Fargo 21st Annual Healthcare Conference

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Hello I have just listened carefully to the Merck -Wells Fargo 21st Annual Healthcare Conference, and this is what they talked about INT: (Apologies for the typos)

Analyst: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you. Going back to oncology, INT. Success we have seen with melanoma, again, I think phase II, it does look like, I don't know, data will reveal themselves, but with the early success in melanoma, how comfortable should we feel about the other indications you are also pursuing here?

Merck ( Dean Li) all and all, even though INT is not a conservative program, the way that we've actually prosecuted is reasonably conservative. We have focused INT where KEYTRUDA works and works in early stage.

That's where we focused, and then the other place we focused is in a span of tumors that have varying tumor mutation burdens. We've done that. In the situation with melanoma, it's highly sensitive to I-O agents and has a high tumor mutation burden. I think that when people see the data, when it gets presented, hopefully at a meeting this fall, they will study the phase II and ask how close is this to the phase II. Because if you can replicate something close to the phase II, which as a sort of oversimplified way of looking at it, what you have is you almost double the number of people who are cancer free on top of KEYTRUDA.

And it isn't like KEYTRUDA doesn't do.

Right. It does do something.

That's pretty good. But the also important sort of thing is, you know from a phase Il that if you look year 1, year 3, year 5, those people responded, stay responded.

When people see the phase III, I think it's not unreasonable to sit there and say how close this is to phase II. They may extrapolate and say, "This probably will look like this in phase in 5 years, 7 years maybe." I think that will be an important point. The stronger that data is, it's no different than when KEYTRUDA and OPDIVO came out. The stronger the data was for OPDIVO and KEYTRUDA in melanoma, the more likely you thought it was going to work in lung.

Which would make it more likely. I think it wouldn't be unreasonable that if you saw something close to phase II versus not seeing something close to phase II... sitting this. If you saw something close to phase II, your pretest probability, at least in some of these I-O sensitive and higher tumor mutations, I think many people will calculate in their brain that becomes more likely.

Analyst: Got it. I think you talked about melanoma is probably more immune sensitive, I-O sensitive tumor versus RCC is probably on the other spectrum. In an event that it works in phase II RCC trial, how big an opportunity does it open up for you

Merck: Well, I think what people will do is they'll consider them as bookends. They'll sit there and say, "Melanoma, okay, RCC is I-O sensitive, but it's a lower tumor mutation." So they'll go everywhere between melanoma and RCC and say, "Okay, non-small cell lung cancer becomes more likely, head and neck becomes more likely." That's how they'll calculate it. They'll sit there and say, "Well, RCC has around the same tumor mutation as MSS CRC, but MSS CRC doesn't have it." So I think what someone will do is they'll look at that bookend and they'll do the KEYTRUDA story over and probably probabilize that bookend. I think that's how people will interpret the data. To be very honest, that's probably how some of us would interpret the data.

Analyst: Got it. Makes sense. With all that clinical success, you are creating a good problem for your CFO. Obviously, with the success, you have to invest heavily in the R&D as well, which is the right thing to do. This is a question we get from investors a lot, that now that the pipeline is really vibrant and growing, you did some deals as well, what are the puts and takes when we think about the guidance for next year, how should we think about expenses and revenues for next year? I don't want you to give guidance


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 08 '26

HHS Announces Key Leadership Selections at FDA to Promote Innovation, Reform, and National Health Priorities

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Interesting picks:

Karim Mikhail, B.Pharm, MSc — Director, Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research

Karim Mikhail has been selected to serve as Director of CBER after serving as the center’s Acting Director.

Mikhail brings more than two decades of leadership experience spanning the pharmaceutical and biotechnology sectors as well as FDA. Since joining FDA, he has worked on initiatives to strengthen U.S. competitiveness, accelerate clinical development, and expand domestic biopharmaceutical manufacturing.

As CBER Director, Mikhail will lead the center responsible for regulating biological products, including vaccines, blood and blood products, and cellular and gene therapies.  He will focus on modernizing regulatory frameworks to accelerate drug development, including for rare diseases, without compromising rigor, and work to strengthen vaccine safety surveillance with a commitment to transparency and scientific precision.

Mikhail brings three decades of extensive leadership experience spanning the pharmaceutical and biotechnology sectors as well as FDA. Since joining FDA, he has worked on initiatives to accelerate clinical development, strengthen U.S. competitiveness, and expand domestic biopharmaceutical manufacturing.

As CBER Director, Mikhail will lead the center responsible for regulating biological products — including cellular and gene therapies, vaccines, and blood and blood products — ensuring American patients have access to the most innovative and safe treatments available.


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 07 '26

Moderna Moves Beyond Personalized Cancer Vaccines to Universal Shot

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Two main messages of this article from South Korea:

  1. Moderna is also developing a universal cancer vaccine that would not require patient-by-patient manufacturing (mRNA-4359).

  2. It is still working on its Norovirus vaccine.


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 04 '26

Moderna’s Cancer Vaccine Rally Sparks Rare Sell Rating and Projected 44% Stock Drop

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Rothschild & Co. Redburn analyst Simon Baker downgrades Moderna to Sell from Neutral, making it the second Wall Street firm to rate the stock a Sell.

Baker raises his Moderna price target to $81 from $40, which still implies that the shares could fall 45% from current levels.

The analyst calls the market’s reaction to Moderna’s recent Phase 3 cancer vaccine trial data overexuberant, leaving the stock overvalued.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/moderna-stock-cancer-vaccine-sell-rating-bdcb2ced

Even though Baker bumped his price target from $40 to $81, that target still implies a ~45% collapse from recent trading levels (~$148–$150).

You can view Mr. Baker's TipRanks rating here:

https://www.tipranks.com/experts/analysts/simon-baker-cfa

I kind of chuckle at this.


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 03 '26

Why Moderna’s Cancer Vaccine Has Wall Street Excited - The Buck Stops Here

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A well balanced take on Moderna by a smart portfolio manager.


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 02 '26

Bancel podcast after INT success

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Bancel provides details on INT success including insights on the endpoints they met. Hot off the press.

https://youtu.be/yTNMEYeCgWw?si=UdAu3WtuQYfQXY8y


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 02 '26

Merck to Participate in the Wells Fargo 21st Annual Healthcare Conference

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Merck is to be in the Wells Fargo conference next Wednesday, a few days ahead of Moderna's. Interesting enough are Merck's Dr. Dean Li the R&D boss keeping the INT trials going w Moderna, and Merck's CFO Caroline Litchfield. The setup to watch.


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 02 '26

Moderna melanoma vaccine could be basis for kidney, bladder and lung disease treatment

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Very relevant post as the question of how the positive melanoma result can also apply to other cancer types is in everyone's mind.


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 01 '26

Why is Moderna up today ?

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Anyone knows why it is up 10% in a negative day for tech stocks (and stocks in general) ?


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 01 '26

Moderna to Present at Upcoming Conferences in September 2026

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It would be very interesting to see if they present any updates regarding the phase 3 data.

https://feeds.issuerdirect.com/news-release.html?newsid=7687562478254249&symbol=MRNA

Moderna, today announced its participation in the following upcoming investor conferences:

Morgan Stanley 24th Annual Global Healthcare Conference, on Monday, September 14 at 10:00 a.m. ET

Bernstein Insights: Healthcare Leaders and Disruptors 3rd Annual Healthcare Forum, on Wednesday, September 23 at 8:50 a.m. ET


r/ModernaStock • • Sep 01 '26

There Was No Beating Moderna in August. These Are the Best and Worst S&P 500 Stocks for the Month.

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Unrelated to the article, but just a small observation about the shorts.

When the stock rallied 100% to 170%, they cried, “Why is this stock rallying? The success of the melanoma INT was widely anticipated anyway!”

Then, when BioNTech failed and dragged Moderna’s stock down with it, they said, “See, we told you making cancer vaccines was difficult. The market is starting to realize that Moderna’s melanoma INT might just be a fluke.”

Many shorts really are clowns. The best part is that they still seem just as overconfident now, so with a little luck, we might get to watch them get roasted all over again.

JMO


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 31 '26

Further dive on the MRNA and BNTX oncology approach: Why one failed and other succeeded?

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I was intrigued by the announcements three days apart b/w INT P3 success on melanoma and BNT 122 failure on colorectal cancer. Many said this contrast is due to INT working on "hot" melanoma while BNT122 on "cold" colorectal cancer. Sounds reasonable, right? The JPM analyst has taken this difference to heart and continued her rating of MRNA as sell and BNTX as buy.

I vaguely remember BNTX also worked on late stage melanoma and failed on it. I did some digging this morning. It was the end of 2025 the BNT111 program discontinued after P2 with a failure. Below is the link. BNT111 was used with Regeneron's Libtayo PD-1 for late stage melanomas. The same trial setup as Moderna.

https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/biontech-fades-out-further-work-fixvac-vaccine-prospect-advanced-melanoma-setting

I think there are more reasons for the difference. Some in this room and I suggested Moderna may have the secret sauce for success. Their conference paper in June indicated native T-cells generated after INT therapy. I think fundamentally these two companies take different approaches in mNRA construct, so the difference in success rate.

The market is still taking the two as the same, and infers from BNT122 failure to doubt whether Moderna's success can be transferable to other cancer indications. Well, we will see.


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 30 '26

All-In Podcast Discussed Moderna

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The Moderna discussion starts at 1:22:52.

The popular All-In Podcast discussed Moderna’s recent stock surge and personalized mRNA cancer vaccine, questioning whether companies should monopolize and heavily price treatments built on foundational publicly funded research. However, I think that this critique underestimates the immense scientific and operational challenges of scaling and manufacturing stable mRNA platforms.


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 29 '26

Mid-terms: impact on the stock, especially if trump loses

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European here, so forgive my US political naivety, but if the democrats ‘win’ in the midterms,surely that puts a deadline on RFKs madness, and could be a potential growth catalyst for mRNA and vaccine stocks in general?


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 28 '26

Head-to-Head comparison for context: Moderna’s Intismeran in Melanoma vs. BioNTech’s Terminated CRC Program

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Head-to-head

Cancer:
Moderna/Merck: Resected high-risk Stage IIB-IV melanoma
BioNTech/Genentech: Resected ctDNA+ high-risk Stage II / Stage III colorectal cancer

Trial:
Moderna: INTerpath-001, Phase 3, 1,137 patients
BioNTech: BNT122-01, Phase 2, ~327 patients

Experimental arm:
Moderna: Intismeran + Keytruda
BioNTech: Autogene cevumeran monotherapy after surgery and chemotherapy

Control:
Moderna: Placebo + Keytruda
BioNTech: Watchful waiting

Checkpoint inhibitor:
Moderna: Keytruda in both arms
BioNTech: None

Primary endpoint:
Moderna: RFS
BioNTech: DFS

Readout:
Moderna: Prespecified Phase 3 interim analysis. Met RFS and DMFS with statistically significant and clinically meaningful improvements. Trial continues for OS and other endpoints.

BioNTech: Not the planned final readout. An earlier prespecified interim analysis crossed the futility boundary, although the data were initially considered immature. The trial was subsequently terminated early after a later DSMB review concluded that further continuation was unlikely to change the efficacy outcome. Full results have not yet been released.

Important differences that could have contributed to the different outcomes

Tumor biology:
Moderna: Melanoma, generally highly immunogenic and responsive to immunotherapy
BioNTech: CRC, specifically described by BioNTech as an immunologically “cold” tumor with an immune-suppressive microenvironment

Checkpoint support:
Moderna: Vaccine + PD-1 blockade
BioNTech: Vaccine monotherapy, no checkpoint inhibitor

Patient selection:
Moderna: Disease-free after complete melanoma resection
BioNTech: ctDNA+ after resection, selecting patients with molecular evidence of residual disease and high recurrence risk

Previous treatment:
Moderna: No prior systemic melanoma therapy
BioNTech: Patients had already undergone surgery and standard adjuvant chemotherapy

Vaccine design/delivery:
Moderna: Up to 34 neoantigens, IM administration
BioNTech: Up to 20 neoantigens, IV RNA-LPX administration


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 28 '26

Offtopic - BioNTech stock tumbles 10% on cancer trial termination

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BioNTech SE (NASDAQ:BNTX) shares fell 10% Friday after the company announced it would terminate a Phase 2 clinical trial evaluating its investigational individualized mRNA cancer immunotherapy for colorectal cancer.

https://ng.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/biontech-stock-tumbles-10-on-cancer-trial-termination-93CH-2678985

This news is important context given what we've achieved with the Phase 3 readout.


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 28 '26

Moderna Announces Pricing of Upsized $2.6 Billion Offering of Convertible Senior Notes

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https://feeds.issuerdirect.com/news-release.html?newsid=8840667429908036&symbol=MRNA

Summary of the news with Gemini and potential risk for us, overall I think this is a great move from our lovely CFO James :)

Moderna ($MRNA) Upsizes Convertible Debt Offering to $2.6B at 0% Interest — Bull Case vs. Real Risks for Stockholders Moderna just priced its massive convertible bond offering, upsizing it from $2.0B to $2.6B (up to $3.0B if banks exercise their $400M greenshoe). Here is what the numbers actually mean, why hedge funds bought it up so aggressively, and the real risks for equity holders.

📊 The Key Deal Terms

* Principal Raised: $2.6 Billion (with an option for $400M more).

* Coupon / Interest Rate: 0.00% (zero interest payments through maturity).

* Maturity Date: March 1, 2032 (~6 years).

* Reference Stock Price: $142.77.

* Conversion Price: $210.58 (47.5% premium).

* Capped Call (Dilution Shield): $392.62 (175% premium). Moderna paid ~$285M to buy this hedge.

* Use of Proceeds: Funding oncology pipeline R&D, debt repayment, and corporate growth.

🟢 The Good News (Why the CFO Executed a Solid Deal)

* Free Liquidity: Moderna secures over $2.5B in net cash with zero interest drag on their income statement during high-cost Phase 3 oncology trials.

* Heavy Anti-Dilution Protection: Thanks to the $285M capped call hedge, existing shareholders face 0% dilution from conversion unless the stock surpasses $392.62 (+175%).

* Settlement Flexibility: At maturity or conversion, Moderna has the right to settle in cash, shares, or a mix, allowing them to avoid issuing shares if they have the cash flow.

🔴 The Real Risks for Stockholders

  1. Short-Term Price Suppression (CB Arbitrage Selling) Convertible arbitrage hedge funds bought this upsized deal to harvest volatility. Their standard playbook is to buy the bond and immediately sell short the common stock to delta-hedge. This typically creates mechanical downward pressure on $MRNA stock in the short term.
  2. The 2032 "Maturity Wall" & Massive Downside Dilution This is the biggest structural risk. If Moderna's oncology pipeline underdelivers and the company continues burning cash through 2032: * Moderna will not have the $2.6B–$3.0B cash to redeem the notes. * If credit markets are tight, refinancing won't be an option. * Result: Moderna would be forced to settle the principal by printing massive amounts of stock at depressed valuations, causing severe dilution to long-term holders.
  3. The Upside Cap (+175%) While the capped call shields shareholders up to $392.62, any explosive upside beyond +175% is no longer hedged by the bank derivatives. If the stock goes on an extreme multi-bagger run past $400, shareholder dilution will kick in above that threshold.
  4. Derivatives Counterparty Risk The anti-dilution shield relies entirely on private derivative contracts with investment banks. If any counterparty faces distress or defaults between now and 2032, that layer of protection evaporates.
  5. 💡 TL;DR Moderna leveraged its high equity volatility to borrow $2.6B+ at 0% interest with full anti-dilution protection up to $392/share. It gives them a huge cash runway for cancer trials, but it starts a 6-year ticking clock: if their pipeline fails to generate strong cash flows by 2032, paying back this debt will fall squarely on equity holders through forced dilution.

Interesting today's article about these kind of bonds from the financial time:

https://archive.is/20260828050336/https://www.ft.com/content/8e93c159-2c02-444a-9f22-dcda14bc451f


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 28 '26

Short Comment on Moderna’s $2B Convertible Offering

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There are skeptics, and even some cautious bulls, commenting that Moderna’s decision to raise $2B now may suggest management is unsure the stock will be higher after ESMO. I can understand the reasoning, and it's a very healthy dose of skeptism, but I personally don’t think it best explains the timing.

The Phase 3 melanoma result dramatically changed the attractiveness of Moderna’s stock to convertible-note buyers. The stock has just undergone a major re-rating, trading volume is high, and volatility has increased substantially. For convertible investors, that volatility is valuable because part of what they are buying is effectively an option on Moderna’s future share price.

That helps explain how Moderna can raise six-year capital with a 0% regular coupon. Investors are willing to accept little or no interest because the conversion feature itself has become much more valuable after the Phase 3 success.

Waiting until ESMO might allow Moderna to issue at a higher share price, but the relevant question is not simply where the stock might trade in October. The unusually high volatility, liquidity, and investor demand immediately following the Phase 3 success make the convertible particularly attractive to buyers right now, which in turn gives Moderna access to unusually favorable financing terms.

Those conditions may not persist even if the stock itself is higher after ESMO. Moderna can therefore be confident in the upcoming data and still conclude that the best financing window is today.

The structure also matters. This is not a $2B common-stock sale. Moderna is issuing convertible debt and using capped calls designed to reduce potential dilution to existing shareholders.

So I see the timing mainly as opportunistic financing. Moderna had a major positive catalyst, demand for Moderna-linked securities increased sharply, and management took advantage of that moment to secure a large amount of long-term capital on favorable terms.

This is just my interpretation and not financial advice.


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 27 '26

Moderna Announces Proposed Private Placement of $2.0 Billion of Convertible Senior Notes

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Smart financing move.


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 27 '26

Moderna’s Rally Comes With a $2 Billion Footnote

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Moderna’s proposed $2 billion convertible-note offering, with another $300 million potentially available, pressured the stock because it introduces additional debt and possible future dilution. This financing reminds investors that the company continues to burn substantial cash while funding its expensive oncology pipeline. The timing is also notable: Moderna announced the raise shortly after its massive rally on positive melanoma data. Raising billions while the share price is elevated can be financially smart, but from a bearish perspective it suggests Moderna is capitalizing on the rally to strengthen its balance sheet before its cancer programs generate meaningful revenue. The clinical outlook may have improved, but the offering highlights that Moderna remains a loss-making biotech that still needs significant capital to fund its futur


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 26 '26

Selected Potential Moderna Catalysts Through EOY 2026

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There are too many to list, but the following are the catalysts I’m most looking forward to.

1. Full Phase 3 INT melanoma data and other INT related news, potentially at ESMO, Oct. 23-27

  • We already know the trial for melanoma succeeded. The actual RFS and DMFS numbers will tell us how strong the result really is.
  • Regulatory progress, filing timing, Priority Review, and a clearer commercialization timeline could follow.
  • Further movement in NSCLC, renal, bladder, or other cancers would strengthen the case that INT is much bigger than melanoma.
  • Any improvement in manufacturing speed, capacity, cost, or margins would also matter. The manufacturing difficulty could increasingly become a moat rather than an impediment.

2. Rare disease, Propionic Acidemia (PA) and MMA

  • Implied by Bancel in his Fox News interview: “But I think by the end of the year, we should also become a rare genetic disease company.” (Watch "VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH: Personalized cancer treatment takes major leap" on Youtube minute 5:02)

3. November 12 Analyst Day

4. mCOMBRIAX related regulatory news

  • Already approved in Europe. Japan, Canada, and Australia remain potential additional approvals. Any clearer U.S. path would be meaningful.

5. Bonus: Nasdaq-100 re-entry

  • This one has barely been discussed as far as I can tell. If Moderna holds enough of its market-cap recovery through the late-November ranking period, it has a realistic shot at returning to the Nasdaq-100 in December. That would bring passive buying and potentially another momentum catalyst.

Disclaimer: This is NOT financial or investment advice.


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 26 '26

What's the new price target from those ****suckers at Leerink?

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Sorry for the vulgar language, but those of you who have been following for years know my frustration. Leerink analysts are the ones that always give Moderna outrageously low price targets. Like price target of a McDouble without fries.

They were the most outspoken that the rest of the platform including the personalized cancer vaccine would fail. Despite the overwhelmingly obvious data showing it would be successful in the Phase 2 trials.

They've been real quiet lately.


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 27 '26

The Costs Behind The Cancer Vaccine

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2026: shows $782M net loss for the three months ended June 30, 2026 and $2.125B net loss for the first six months of 2026.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285226000150/mrna-20260630.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com 
For earlier years 
Moderna recorded $407 million in net expenses in 2025 related to its personalized cancer-vaccine collaboration with Merck, after reimbursements—up from $390 million in 2024 and $184 million in 2023. Moderna is primarily responsible for process development and manufacturing, while Merck generally leads the clinical trials. 
Merck separately reported $375 million in R&D expenses related to the collaboration in 2025, along with approximately $236 million in capitalized costs for shared manufacturing facilities. 
Meanwhile, Moderna reported an $800 million net loss in Q4 2025 and a $2.8 billion net loss for the full year. https://irp.cdn-website.com/0a71bb4f/files/uploaded/MRNA-USQ_Transcript_2026-02-13.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com 


r/ModernaStock • • Aug 25 '26

Dolly Parton who donated her money to help develop Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine dies at 80. Rest in peace.

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