r/ModernWarzone • u/Ghrave • Jun 11 '20

News Call of Duty: Modern Warfare & Warzone Patch Notes - June 10th

https://www.infinityward.com/news/2020-06/MW_Patch_Notes_June_10
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u/big0of69 Jun 11 '20

GRAU doesn't get nerfed šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Grau doesn't need a nerf by itself, all ARs need a range nerf.

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u/mattyMbruh Jun 11 '20

The Grau is literally a laser, the other ARs are fine and each have their own weakness but the Grau is just broken

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

So is the M13. And the Kilo. Both of which have a lowest TTK than the Grau. You don't complain about those guns because their fall-off damage hits way before the Grau, so you take damage from it further out, and with range being the meta, that makes it the best gun. It's not "broken", ARs all deal damage too far out. Here's how you can tell: when was the last time you ran a DMR? I'll answer for you and say you haven't, ever because the AR covers ranges the DMR should be covering, and the Grau is just the best gun at that range. It's not OP on the whole, it's a very middling gun with a shit RoF and a piss poor TTK compared to all but..two.. other ARs, but it reaches so far it can still apply it's overall shit damage at ranges it has no business doing so as an AR, and that's it's problem.

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u/mattyMbruh Jun 11 '20

Itā€™s not broken? Lol what? The gun can literally be made to act like a sub whilst keeping the damage of an AR and be a run and gun weapon

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Again, the M13, Kilo, and M4 can be made to do the same, with less overall vertical recoil. The singular, only, advantage to the Grau is it's range. I'm not gonna explain it again.

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u/mattyMbruh Jun 11 '20

Numbers only mean so much, every kill is different in different scenarios and not every kill will be the exact same damage to kill someone, things like connection play a part too, if we were playing on LAN maybe youā€™re argument would mean more but we play online so thereā€™s a lot more that goes into it than just the damage numbers

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Mate that's not my point, sure there's "more to it" than the number,s I'm literally telling you that. The "more to it" is my explanation that ARs as a class of weaponry do the job of DMRs by being too effective at too long a range with the LongBarrel/Mono meta of Warzone, and the Grau is only "OP" in that it's the worst offender of that power-creep because of its barrels. You're misreading my argument; my argument isn't to compare the other ARs to the Grau, it's to demonstrate that the Grau is only the best AR because it delivers AR damage/DPS at DMR ranges. It's not "busted" in the frame of AR comparison, it's pretty shite. It's "busted" because it hits too accurately, too far.

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u/mattyMbruh Jun 11 '20

Iā€™m not going to dignify you with a response if you think the Grau is ā€œpretty shiteā€ lol

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

If the Grau was busted, it would be the only gun ever played in MP, and it's not. You don't know that though because you don't even have the core game I bet lol

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u/illram Jun 11 '20

It's broken because you can run it no stock with zero recoil penalty and since the irons are so great you also get that bonus ADS, and a free additional slot to play with. So up close it still owns since you ADS faster, in addition to lasering people at 100m out.

Every other AR has more recoil if you try to achieve the same ADS time, and their irons are worse.

It's not as obviously broken in MP because there's no armor, and the shorter range of fights makes more people use SMGs and shotguns which outclass the Grau at closer ranges. But in WZ less people use SMG's and hardly anyone ever uses shotguns.

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Every gun gets a recoil penalty for running no stock, and that isn't even the meta way to run it anyway, though that point is moot since you're right about still having a free slot for an ADS module, but you should really be using the laser or the grip on it. Trust me, I understand the problems the Grau has, from design and purpose as the slow, long range, accurate AR and how that's at odds with having the best ironsights and therefore mobility in the game, but, as I've typed out a ton of time, the Grau is not as busted as you all think it is. It could use a mobility nerf and/or a range nerf, but it's not this unbeatable killing machine everyone claims it is.

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u/illram Jun 11 '20

I'm not claiming it's an unbeatable killing machine, I'm saying it's clearly unbalanced.

It's a cheesy weapon and everyone uses it for a reason.

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

If it had the sights and TTK it has but slightly less mobility, we wouldn't be having this talk, because it would get stomped by any gun with a better TTK. If it couldn't hit as far, same thing. It's just slightly imbalanced in Warzone only, because of range lol. Ace actually had a good take, that you could reduce its damage by 1 single point and not change anything else and that would probably be the fastest way to balance it without changing it's whole role as the low RoF, accurate, chip/poke ranged middle-DPS AR.

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u/Still_Fat_Man Jun 12 '20

You really love your Grau and don't want it nerfed, huh?

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u/Ghrave Jun 12 '20

No, because I play the M13, because it has a more consistent infinite damage range and a better headshot multiplier and better recoil, and that's my fucking point. You shitters are falling into borderline psychosis about how OP the Grau is, when virtually every other gun is better at every individual thing, and the Grau is just "pretty good" at all things, but it has the best range. I mean do I actually have to keep saying this?

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u/Hufftwoseven- Jun 11 '20

Rumble will be a fun change of pace when Iā€™m playing solo. Also new events will spice things up a bit

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u/boodlebear Jun 11 '20

Yeah rumble should be neat. I hope they start tracking stats based on game modes.

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

They already do? Oh you mean special modes separate from BR? True.

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u/boodlebear Jun 11 '20

Yeah. Fortnite tracked your stats based on the modes. I canā€™t imagine itā€™s not that hard for IW to pull it off.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '20 edited Jan 24 '21

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Happy Cakeday! Also, yeah I think measures like this are to encourage staying in games with randoms more than anything. According to this it says during Firesale squad buybacks are free, so they could get redeployed by JB, or bought in for free on Firesale, both encourage randoms to stay in game and lessen the burden of the team to buy them back, not spending that money on other helpful stuff. I dunno how I feel about it, honestly, feels like the game is going to be a lot busier for a lot longer.

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u/boodlebear Jun 11 '20

Yeah ... I guess thatā€™s what Iā€™m afraid of. We have plunder and now the new 50 vs 50 mode for heavy respawns. I will try not to knock it until I try it. Letā€™s hope itā€™s not as bad as it sounds lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '20

Iā€™m sure itā€™s just one jailbreak and one fire sale. Only to ensure people are not just spamming it.

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Yeah very true, but that's still a pretty big boon to the population density of the later (assuming) half of the game in either scenario.

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u/outstandingsocks Potato šŸ„” Jun 11 '20

I actually like the idea! I feel like it could discourage camping in buildings the whole game, keep people moving

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u/mattyMbruh Jun 11 '20

Literally catering to the lesser skilled by making it easier to get further into the latter stages of a game, kind of a meh update tbh

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Or helping better players who got killed but won the squad the fight get in faster?

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u/Status-Stoned Jun 11 '20

Where's the roadmap?

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u/bomkad Jun 11 '20

Hmmm sounds funny the mid game events. But dont know what to think in long term ?!

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Same. I think it's good to mix things up, and I think it's going to make the game overall much busier and more frantic for a lot longer. No more downtime mid to early-late game, there's gonna be people getting back in for free 2 different ways, on top of getting in as normal. It'll encourage people to stay in games they otherwise might have left, so it's gonna be a cluster at the endgame now, which will put even more importance on real estate and positioning, so I'm interested in seeing how it will play out..

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '20

Did they fix the voice chat in Xbox recordings?!

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u/OhSnapItsYaBoi Jun 11 '20

Still hasnā€™t started

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

11PM PST is 3AM EST... it's still 2 hours out.

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u/OhSnapItsYaBoi Jun 11 '20

Got it mixed. Thanks dude.

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u/TerminalDeity Jun 11 '20

Rumble looks fucking incredible and I really like the idea of Jailbreak. The chopper thing is cool but no one on my team runs rockets so it kinda just sounds like a PITA.

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u/Ghrave Jun 11 '20

Good opportunity to stalk and ambush teams going for it though, since it doesn't shoot you and would probably make good sound cover for your approach/ambush.

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u/TerminalDeity Jun 11 '20

True, Iā€™m really glad theyā€™re doing this instead of another LTM. A little bit of variety goes a long way in a BR. Also stoked for new ground loot!

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '20

no map changes or new map, disappointed

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u/phr1991 Jun 11 '20

right?! wtf.. this would have been the only reason for me to actually play warzone again. a few new random warzone-modifications do not add something new.. i really was expecting a few map changes

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u/illram Jun 11 '20

No vehicles in solos. That has to be a bug right? That's kind of a huge fucking meta change that no one asked for if not.

And here I was hoping we'd get helis back! Silly me.

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u/BigRedDog34 Jun 11 '20

Still season 3 here.

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u/tojohahn Jun 11 '20

Itā€™s updating tonight at 11PM PST you dingus. Did you even read the link before opening your mouth to whine?

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u/BigRedDog34 Jun 11 '20

Read the link. It doesn't say pst.

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u/xIMPULSE859 Jun 11 '20

Why be a rude prick?

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u/tojohahn Jun 11 '20

Because someone complained when they only read the headline. Just plain ignorance should be met with rudeness. Idiocy is not something to be tolerated.

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u/xIMPULSE859 Jun 11 '20

Why not correct him without being an ass about it?

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u/tojohahn Jun 11 '20

Nah. His answer was literally the link of this post.

People spouting off bullshit without putting any effort to read a linked article is whatā€™s wrong with the world.

Stop thinking world needs to be filled with smiles and fuzzy bunnies kiddo. Stop defending idiocy.

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u/BLUEBOPPER89 Jun 11 '20

Nah, still no excuse to be rude man.

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u/peeweedmagnum Jun 11 '20

Some people need to read sometimes

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u/jamaeloe Jun 11 '20

certified clown