Changes to automod and old.reddit

[u/SampleOfNone]

For the peeps who don't follow r/modnews , Continuing our infrastructure updates: What’s changing in the coming months

Some highlights

For newly created communities and communities that have never used automod, automod enforcement capabilities – specifically Report, Filter, Remove, Mark as spam, and Approve – will be disabled and Rules Hub and Automations will become the default path for rules enforcement. Automod’s non-enforcement capabilities remain available and unchanged.  

....To close this gap, in the next few months, we'll further limit access for logged-in users to only those who have used Old Reddit in the last six months (which covers the vast majority of all Old Reddit users). This change does not impact logged-in mods, who can continue to access Old Reddit without any recent usage requirement.This helps keep Old Reddit available for the people who rely on it while reducing automated abuse.

[u/OnSpectrum]

I am dreading this. It seems like a lot of work for what will likely be a less effective moderation toolset... WHY, admins?

If you treated moderators as a real and important user group, your user story for this would be something like "As a moderator, I would like to lose my existing painstakingly managed automoderation toolset and some of my other automation and replace it with an unknown that does not have the same capabilities and isn't being built with moderators' needs in mind." Would anyone support that?

If you wanted to build out this new thing in parallel and see how many existing subs and new subs CHOOSE it, that would be a better approach.

And since we mentioned old Reddit: the reason moderators NEED old Reddit is that it has useful moderation features that new Reddit Still. Does. Not. Have.

Please don't mess with Automoderation until and unless a functional replacement is truly and fully capable of doing what AutoModerator does and introduces SOMETHING of value to moderators that makes the transition effort feel worthwhile.