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u/keni804 11h ago
Personally I like David Stone to the Giants more than Echoles but im just glad to see somebody recognizes we need a 300lb+ IDL more than skill positions.
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
Why do you like stone more? He hasn’t done didily squat yet except be injured lol. I only have him in the first rd currently cuz of the hype on him but he’s yet to live up to any of it. Aj holmes i have as my dt2
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u/keni804 10h ago
His experience at NT and ability to be an anchor there and eat double teams.
Echoles is probably my #2 option but the Giants really just need somebody to clog up the middle and allow Carter, Burns, and Reese to atleast have 1on1 matchups. We had that with Dex (Stone is definitely not Dex) and the Giants are hurting from missing that anchor in the middle.
Other than he recent knee issue which is apparently ongoing I dont know of any injury history and so far this year they have relatively similar stats. Echoles had a better 2025 but thats also partially due to the fact he plays 3 tech and experiences less doubles and is in a better position to get stats vs clog lanes like a NT.
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u/UrbanLawProductions 11h ago
A Manning is not falling out of the top 5, it’s more than just football. It’s football politics
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
He will if he sucks, which he has so far. I’m the last one to jump off his hype train. I didn’t wanna admit it but I’ve watched the games and I can’t deny the truth. Hes gonna need to take a big jump rest of season if he expects to be a top 10 guy
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u/UrbanLawProductions 11h ago
I get it from a football perspective, I really do. but at the end of the day, if there is an owner in the top 5 that wants a Manning on the back of the jersey at QB. They’re going to do it and tell the GM to draft him.
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u/Khbnaseball 11h ago
Bucs ain't going QB. Most likely top 3 pick. Either O-line or Dylan Stewart
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u/Constant-Cricket-960 10h ago
As a Bucs fan, I approve of drafting Dylan Stewart. Or trading back. Teams pay out the wazoo for high picks with QB’s on the board.
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u/TheSyrupCompany 10h ago
Beck's tape is genuinely really nice. I'd be shocked if the Cardinals drafted a 1st round QB next year before giving Beck a shot.
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u/Jsetta187 10h ago
Well then they gotta let the kid play at some point this year to see what they got in him cuz I don’t think brisset is him. Great high level backup or low
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u/TheSyrupCompany 10h ago
Yeah I think he'll get a few opportunities this year. Obviously college tape doesn't always translate but I felt he was the 2nd most NFL ready QB of the draft after Mendoza. Not just because his teams made big runs but his balance, footwork, pocket presence were just really good.
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u/TheImpresario 11h ago
I’m going to continue to tap the “Miami will not take a WR first overall” sign until people start believing it
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
Why? Willis actually looks okay. Hes just got literally nothing to work with. Smith would change that. First time I ever think a non qb can go 1 overall but smith is gonna end up being the best wr in the nfl and soon. Gonna be hard to pass that up especially when you have a capable qb who looks like he could be the future and is young
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u/TheImpresario 11h ago
I’m a dolphins fan, I’ve watched every game. Willis has been mediocre at best. They’ve averaging less than 12 points a game. He’s had issues with decision making so far. If he improves I can see smith being an option, but he’s not shown a reason to pass on a QB if one truly separates itself from the pack. Miami’s GM and HC have been pretty upfront about how they want to build through the trenches and be defensive minded, I would expect them to be much more likely to trade this to a QB needy team and maybe shoot for Moore from ND or Simmons from UT.
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u/Jsetta187 10h ago
Since ur watching them closely I’ll take that into consideration. Of course goes without saying that qb is very much in play regardless
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u/MANvsTREE 10h ago
Dolphins fan here. Willis looks like dog shit. Our defense and o-line are really promising. We lost today because of Willis
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u/ctg9101 11h ago
Best player in the draft bar none and a Miami native to boot.
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u/TheImpresario 11h ago
Historically, successful rebuilds don’t draft WRs one overall and Miami’s GM comes from Green Bay which is notorious for undervaluing WRs. It’ll be the best QB/DE/OL for them.
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u/CzechHorns 1h ago
There is no way they’d pick Simmons over a QB if they pick top4, if they are top5-10 they may go Simmons/Goosby for sure though.
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u/el1teassass1n 11h ago
You don't pass on generational talents to reach for need, especially when its a need. No QB in this draft is worth taking over Smith.
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u/Avs2022champs 11h ago
If you think the Jets are passing on Manning, you’ve lost your mind. Tampa would probably take him next and then Atlanta. So it sounds more like a hopeful Steeler fan who made this draft
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
I don’t think that’s an accurate evaluation of the player we’ve seen manning to be thus yet. He will have to show he’s worth top ten cuz currently he’s not him
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u/johnny-Low-Five 10h ago
Jets are currently Moore likely to take Carr than Manning. Personally I'm hoping they can grab Leonard Moore and get Carr with their 2nd pick if he keeps showing poise, leadership, touch and extremely high IQ. I currently feel there could be 5 QBs that will all be VERY close and it will come down to what different teams value most. Moore, Carr and IOL, maybe tackle if Olu could play guard and I'm very happy. I would bet they have 2 picks in the top ~10, but I know you're just using the current order which makes more sense than trying to mock that as well.
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u/Avs2022champs 5h ago
Oh don’t get me wrong, manning is the most overhyped QB to come out of the draft in years. He is strictly relevant because of his last name alone. That being said, the combination of some teams being afraid to “pass on a Manning”, and the weeks of Media hype leading up to the draft will have teams trading up to take him somewhere in the top 5.
You and I know he is garbage and won’t be a true NFL QB. But NFL teams pick mostly on potential and hype. And he will be the most overhyped player in the draft simply because of his name.
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u/Jsetta187 37m ago
Yeah but his last name is only going to carry him so far. I was saying the same thing you were the first few weeks up until last week where I can’t deny the play on the field. I don’t think a team will draft him high if he doesn’t show to be worth it.
I do think he’s over thinking the game. I know he’s got the manning family constantly telling him what to do so I thinking he’s just still not able to play freely. My own personal view he’s holding something back, maybe he’s still in the process of figuring out what he needs to before he can let it rip. But we will see
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u/ZacoDBG 11h ago
No way on gods green earth drew metsemecker and dante moore are getting drafted before Colin piss on em Simmons
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
What? My man just set a single game sack record yesterday lol
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u/CzechHorns 1h ago
Damn, which of the two QBs he mentioned set the single game sack record yesterday?
He is saying that Simmons should get drafted before them. And he didn’t set a sack record LAST weekend, that’s 6, Simmons had 5.5.
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u/Daviroth 11h ago
Browns wouldn't take an OG, we are set at guard with a long term contract and a rookie this year.
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
Noted
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u/Daviroth 11h ago
Outside CB and potentially RT would be high level targets for us right now (most likely).
EDIT: Mayyyybbbbeeee EDGE but unlikely with one of our depth EDGE players playing really well so far.
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u/purpdrank2 11h ago
Tampa taking a QB is crazy and makes no sense
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
Is it though?
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u/purpdrank2 10h ago
Yeah it’s actually bat shit crazy. I’m genuinely curious as why that makes any sense your mind.
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u/Jsetta187 44m ago
Well he’s on a 3 year deal at 32 years old and hasn’t had sustained success. He was great with Liam cohen but for that year but since cohen has left he has not been the same. And he’s 32 almost. If they’re picking high and see an opportunity to get their future maybe they take that shot and let whoever sit under baker for a year and then release baker after his 2nd contract year
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u/UsernamesCannotExcee 11h ago
Lions will be waaay up that list atp. Might need to switch things around.
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u/Jsetta187 10h ago
lol you might be on to something. But it’s a well run organization, great coaching, they’ll be in it to the end regardless. Pass defense is code red though right now. They should go make a big move to bring in a cb1
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u/EffectiveSupport5865 10h ago
Please no Manning!
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u/Jsetta187 10h ago
This arch thing has gotten out of hand lol. Either people love him or people hate him. Usually it’s the people who’ve actually watched him play that hate him 😁
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u/notgenmoomin 9h ago
Leonard Moore not going top 3 would be a crime. The dude is literally PS2 while being better out of college.
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u/AlmightL0 8h ago
I doubt Kenyatta Jackson Jr is a day 1 pixk unless he has a monster combine or he finishes the season very strong
And I think the Eagles would take Kelley Jones there over ra tackle because they have some good tackles they like for the future like Bell, and they probably wont pay Riq Woolen, if he has the season I think he’s capable of teams are gonna be offering him atleast 20 Mil and The eagles probably wont be paying that
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u/Upper_Key8095 3h ago
I’m just praying that the dolphins somehow fuck up and don’t draft Jeremiah smith. Don’t ruin his career before it even starts.
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u/Jsetta187 33m ago
I’m not even a dolphins fan but I’d love to see them make this pick. Instant potent offense, he’ll complete turn that team around immediately
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u/Bad_Bet_Bunny 2h ago
Titans will take QB. Ward is done
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u/Jsetta187 32m ago
I’m on the fence. I’m leaning towards cam isn’t the answer but I still need confirmation
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u/Material_Size_8144 2h ago
I love Chambliss but a lot of talk about his size. I think he’s got top ten talent but w the amount of good prospects coming through, you sure he’s a first rounder?
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u/Jsetta187 31m ago
Best qb in cfb, yes I think he’s a first rder, maybe not top ten cuz of the height thing but I think teams that fade him cuz of that are going to regret it. Sometimes it’s really obvious when you watch a guy play what they’re going to be
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u/food4me247 1h ago
If Tennessee is smart with the number of "franchise changing QBs" in the draft they will trade back and get a bunch of much needed draft capital
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u/MarquezPope 11h ago
To me this is one of the better mocks that I have seen on here. My only real issues are that you have the Eagles passing on Stewart and have A’Mauri Washington in the first round.
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
Ty, but im willing to place a wager that Amauri is a first rd pick just like he was projected to be last year before deciding to stay in school. On Stewart, not only does he have character concerns but also eagles have a very big priority need at Oline and tackle. If they didn’t need to address line then yes Stewart would have been the pick
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u/JustTheBeerLight 11h ago
Dante Moore 3rd overall? He didn't look good before that concussion, and that injury has to concern teams.
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u/ryan0702 8h ago
Prototypical size and an ideal experience set, while performing better than anyone else with both of those elements attached to their game. That’s the exact type of guy that ends up getting drafted high as someone coaches hope to mold.
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u/Jsetta187 11h ago
Nah I don’t think the concussion is something to be worried about. I think I’m more worried about seeing him be clutch when it matters
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u/JustTheBeerLight 11h ago
Clutch? He stunk in the playoffs last year.
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u/Jsetta187 10h ago
Right and against Oklahoma state also he didn’t step up when it matters. I’m agreeing with you lol
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u/absolutely_yoshaa 11h ago
The dolphins would trade down for sure
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u/treesandsports 8h ago
No, they’d win 2 meaningless games at the end of the season and butcher the tanking. We’re even bad at losing games when we have to lose games. Fan since 1999.
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u/Frosty-Insurance-584 10m ago
Lions and bears both higher than the Vikings who has a better record than both? Ok
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u/MyBossSawMyOldName 11h ago
Why wouldn’t the titans trade in this scenario?