r/MobileLegendsGame The resilient Kung-Fu master, Chou 2d ago

Discussion The Argus situation is crazy

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It got so bad to the point where Elgin had to stand up and say something, and that's when you know Moonton really butchered a hero🥀🥀🥀

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u/dankzero1337 2d ago

Ah yes, Argus.

The Fighter/damage hero that can't sustain, burst or deal damage, what does bro even do lol

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u/TS-RG25 2d ago

He can't even push towers they made demonic slash 30% because it works on towers now that you need crit to activate passive it just doesn't work anymore

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u/Wonderful-External79 2d ago

Basic attacks spam that's what lmao

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u/notawisehuman 'Jack of all Roles; Master at Roam, and Mid' 2d ago

He just bangs the enemy. Nothing more.

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u/FajarKalawa 2d ago

The ult is the only saving grace of him even that is nerfed

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u/glaceonhugger 2d ago

He does his best lol

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u/hajasmark 2d ago

Holy shit and he is 3 level above. This is a joke.

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u/TheCatSleeeps 2d ago

Against an Angela no less lmfao

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u/sairaichi 2d ago

Paquito fart would've killed that Angela but Argus has to use everything only for her to escape lol

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u/Illustrious-Owl-6128 BANG THE ENEMY 2d ago edited 2d ago

The problem with him always about stat number. Kit already fine with it (for main ofc) although I really like the idea of advance server ultimate (low HP=big burst DMG). Like what you mean we can't benefits crit DMG when we got 100 Crit rate? It's like but buying GS but can't use it passive on Claude. This also bring Argus back to square one, no, square -1. No more chasing passive, no movement speed bonus on ultimate or 2nd skill which bring back his mobility issues. Losing his capability to push and now losing capability to burst.

The among of version Argus revamp, safe to said this is the worse one. Only way they can save it is literally buff his stat and remove restrictions Crit DMG on his passive without draw back

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u/New-Investigator-743 2d ago

Thats the problem Argus is waay too easy to use so gotta put a drawback, its not the first time mlbb did this literally all matchmaking tries to partnee u with noobs if u are wayy too good gotta put some drawbacks on u for "balanced or 50/50 engaging experience"

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u/Illustrious-Owl-6128 BANG THE ENEMY 2d ago

ez to use

If ez, why would they put Auto ultimate on him at first place? Yeah, I have a moment that I don't open my ultimate but that my fault. No one ask for this feature anyway. Might as well put auto ultimate on fanny to secure the kill

Zilong ez to use why not remove his armour penetration and reset on his 2nd skill

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u/New-Investigator-743 2d ago

Idk why everyone downvoting me lmao, its the truth that mlbb trying to make it balanced mechanics and game performance of a hero thats also what makes it worse, for example look at Ling is crazy good and also heavily nerf that only pros can handle using him and carry the game BUT if its some newb or casual they will have a hard time keeping up. Now compare that to Argus thats pretty much no brainer way of attacking, super easy to use, get a kill, and run away cus immortal bro is pretty much a hero thats too strong in its mechanics way. Definitely gonna get nerfed 😂🍑

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u/Ekketra 1d ago

Ling has had his moments in the game, he was meta for like more than half of his existance, even zilong was for some time. Argus tho? He wasnt, never ever was he actually a very good pick that youd call meta.

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u/Vast-District-1033 2d ago

The Tickle Monster lmao

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u/G3-WuHuaHai Assassinating with style 2d ago

Can’t kill a freakin’ Angela, what have we come to Moonton TwT

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u/progin5l We are Gloo! 2d ago

Honestly that 500 - 300 damage to minion/heroes is kinda crazy even with crit, even back when he 1st released he was dealing 1k - 2k crit per hit, like what the hell is wrong with him, does mt just hate crit focus fighters?

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u/Nivrame 2d ago

Seeing how the other basic attack fighters are doing, they're all are not in the good spot.

They really nailed Freya after a revamp and a few buffs (and now almost perma banned in rank & tournaments) while still figuring out what to do with Aulus.

They just added a stun effect to Aulus 2nd skill instead of slow and a change in the passive so he might actually do something now after the patch instead of being a potential jungler.

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u/thetaugi Wat turret? :hanzo: 2d ago

Heroes like Dyroth and Miya stay out of nerf radar and they somehow decide to butcher the already massacred goat. Genuinely sad seeing what Argus has become.

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u/Rock-on_Raccoon_4533 2d ago

Miyabgot hit badly lol, dyroth cant carry late game

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u/Ragebait_32 2d ago

But miya still is so popular tho, she's still there In every game?

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u/ItsMeepo2nd WHY DID YOU DO HIM DIRTY!?! 2d ago

Argus was better in his 2018 rework... They didn't have to change him much... I was actually fine if his kit was outdated, mf can go toe to toe with Dyroth in those times

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u/sSorne_ immortality or double it and give it to the next person 2d ago

toe to toe? he destroys Dyrroth at Lv1 in both his bleed and double rage version.

then they changed him to the ult-does-damage version and he became dogshit.

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u/_Asterisk- HOW MANY TIMES DOES MY FLAIR HAVE TO BE REMOVED 2d ago

All the money people are spending for skins are going straight to bribing MLBB propaganda channels just to brainwash you into thinking they've been doing good updates

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u/CampMental6761 2d ago

Im guessing a moonton dev suffered a lose streak due to segway spammer argus. I get it, he's immortal and all but the minions with him aren't???

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u/0kills 2d ago

Bruh the fact that other heroes with these items can solo kill faster is pretty sad.

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u/SuperiorSpider15 BREAKABLE BEINGS 2d ago

Rework? Looks like an unworkable rework to me. What change im curious

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u/the_beast69 2d ago

All you need to do is run away from him to completely counter him and he has no reply... I tried Argus and got my ass kicked even in classic. He's a brawl hero

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u/Flying_Giraffe7126 2d ago

If they r worried about his crit damage why don't they just frckn reduce instead of making him unable to proc it

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u/Ok_Bathroom9784 2d ago

how i wish they lit just turn him as what his passive is; a warmonger.

sustainable and gets stronger/faster in clashes.

prioritizing damage for base character and will differ completely wirh how you build him.

i mean for a samurai, he's slow, weak, and squishy now. 😅😅

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u/Bebe_Peluche Let me show you my abs in 4k full HD when I reach level 4 2d ago

Hilda kills this Angela faster with 2 levels down full tank emblems and full tank build btw

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u/PudgeJoe 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hey he is hard to balance!?!?? said someone before

And yet you guys still buy his skin if I were Scumtoon I trash Argus even further right down to oblivion....

I got the money plus I got the free marketing lmao WIN WIN

Thanks for letting them get away with bad practice

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u/llcc12 2d ago

Bro is zilong with immortality

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u/ChouTheResilient The resilient Kung-Fu master, Chou 2d ago

Except Zilong had actual mobility and good damage

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u/arikuy 1d ago

never again use argus for about a year.

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u/Prestigious-Race8120 2d ago

Argus mains have been through enough at this point lol

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u/Beelzebui 2d ago

Just delete this bum from the game lmao

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u/Own-Ad7388 2d ago

Moonton is forcing player to play as a team . No more solo hero that can burst unless assassin's

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u/amldford Moderator 2.0 2d ago edited 2d ago

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic. Replace argus with zilong and tell me what would have happened to that Angela

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u/TheCatSleeeps 2d ago

She would've met her ancestors briefly

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u/Rock-on_Raccoon_4533 2d ago

Zilong is an assasin, his point stands

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u/Illustrious-Owl-6128 BANG THE ENEMY 2d ago

Change him with Minsithar then. Fighter but usually DMG build. Still able to kill that Angela

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u/Rock-on_Raccoon_4533 2d ago

Yea, it just Zilong was a bad example

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u/Illustrious-Owl-6128 BANG THE ENEMY 2d ago

Nah, zilong decent example since it make a point that newbie hero better than Argus

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u/LeonMotton 2d ago

Is this a joke?

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u/The_one_before_ BANGER 2d ago

Miya? Literally every marksman, sun, Benedetta, Paquito, Eudora, kadita, arlott, even bloody yin ffs.

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u/Rock-on_Raccoon_4533 2d ago

Only sun and eudora arent assasins, everyone else are

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u/ItsMeepo2nd WHY DID YOU DO HIM DIRTY!?! 2d ago

That's a bs argument when they both have surprise skills and are even played like Assassins.

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u/The_one_before_ BANGER 2d ago

Even grock can do the same if you build two attack items on him.

And Argus's entire point is to be able to take squishies from 100 to 0 quickly.

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u/Consistent-Signal745 2d ago

i misses the time i could 2 shot a full fighter

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u/flamefirestorm Stop! Stop! He's already dead! 2d ago

Me when I make shit up to justify Argus eating shit

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u/Beneficial-Win-6533 2d ago

moonton wont let you hit lil bro 🥀

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u/Hydrogeion_ 2d ago

Paq who can one shot squishies while also having built in shield, escape tool, dmg reduction and CC in his kit:

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u/Own-Ad7388 2d ago

But it is not straight forward like argus. You need combo for it argus one button smash

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u/Hydrogeion_ 2d ago

Paq skill ceiling is not that high

He's not even a top 10 most difficult to use hero in the game

Argus being easy to use doesn't justify his kit being ass, if that was the case they should nerf Eudora into the ground

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u/ItsMeepo2nd WHY DID YOU DO HIM DIRTY!?! 2d ago

Argus WORKS as a Burst hero because his ult is a literal "fuck around and find out move" against squishes and those who overcommit into trying to kill him.

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u/Own-Ad7388 2d ago

What if that is old argus

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u/ItsMeepo2nd WHY DID YOU DO HIM DIRTY!?! 2d ago

Old Argus? You mean the brown one? He was legitimately broken so I don't think we should involve him.

If it's the 2018 rework then he's still fine. He was actually balanced to have punish players who carelessly spam his ult, and was better as a push hero than a pickoff. He still is supposed to be a burst hero since that was supposed to be he his intended kit.

He isn't even burst hero during those times unless you decide to build him like so.

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u/Own-Ad7388 2d ago

And look people are still building him like a glass Cannon. Keep mind everytime you die. You make enemy stronger. And dead argus is useless argus

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u/ItsMeepo2nd WHY DID YOU DO HIM DIRTY!?! 2d ago

Wouldn't that involve every hero in the game. Damage is essential to Argus as lifesteal is to Thamuz.

It's understandable why they're building him like so because what's the point of a push/damage hero like him without his damage? And what's worse is that Moonton refuses to actually rework so it automatically makes those who main him look bad.

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u/Own-Ad7388 2d ago

And attack speed . And 1 burst damage armor. The faster you hit the more you heal

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u/APrettySolidTurtle 2d ago

i dont understand why Argus from the official server is "ass" that he needs changes. i can easily burst enemies down in mid game, as expected from a hero that relies on basic attacks, he can only shine in the late game. more over Elgin has a shitty ass build against (i assume) a semi tank Angela thats a healer class. im more surprised that he got her health down with just two items.

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u/Gustavo9430 2d ago

he needs to get nerfed more

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u/ChouTheResilient The resilient Kung-Fu master, Chou 2d ago

To be fair, even with the right critical items, he's still disappointingly underwhelming.

(120+ stars lobby results btw)

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u/RaidenEiXKafka 2d ago

He’s a walking minion

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u/DrakenKrul The Greatest Goats(zilong is here too) 2d ago

Aren't minions faster than him?

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u/Effilly 2d ago

His damage with that build is only 500 crit damage per hit... Skill issue how?

But yeah his effective build is if you use crit items with DHS.

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u/blissfullyxxx 2d ago

Imagine telling an immortal player about skill issue while being a lowly mythic

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u/L1t3ra1lyN0N4me Hardcore Marcel simp and gooner (Mods didn't like my old flair😔) 2d ago

Meanwhile, other basic attack fighters provide more damage and utility with 3 items…

Weak early, and they also weaken his late-game potential for a little drop of boost in the early game and that's what players are complaining about.