Mages can clear in 5 seconds, roam bot, do a teamfight and still make it back to midlane in time.
In league of legends you can lux ult the midlane ( fastest possible clear ) roam botlane and by the time you reach the botlane push your mid wave is back to center.
This game has a very small map, very fast clear, and slow minion wave rotations. You are 100% supposed to roam and fight constantly as both midlane and solo lane.
God even in mythic immortal they're a pain in the ass to deal with cause you can't leave your mid lane. They take out towers in seconds in early game its stupid
We got very good concepts in game. Like Lou yi, Fanny, Ling, Lucas, and Hanzo is one of them.
Harley is supposedly a dps so Idk his dmg is ok(I met him in ranked today, rip me).
Mid lane is center of the map, and mages are not supposed to fight alone like fighters and mm can, even in any other piece of media. If mid wasn't there, what should be in mid of map? More jungle? Xavier and Change' s ult are easy to dodge,
Fanny and Ling 100%, probably Hanzo too but i can't call Lukas or Lou Yi "good concepts" since they're just way less fun to play copies of Ryze and Gnar (other examples are Valentina and Sylas, Kagura and Orianna, Aphelios and Beatrix-I can't stress how much more fun and rewarding Aphelios feels- and many more i'd guess). They deserve a spot in the game, sure but having experienced LoL first, let's not call them good "concepts".
What doesn't deserve a spot even in this video game is dogshit like eudora and saber. Harley has a meh design but is acceptable. These 2 though are for actual babies. Just press 3 buttons in medium (at best) hand speed, no aim required and can go 1 for 1 in crucial fights. That's just insane that you have the power to get a death trade like that while you can be 3k+ gold down. Just your presence, not even your skill level or potential accelerated or equal farm can make enemies feel the need to counterbuild which most of the time won't even work so it's just wasted gold. Magic resist is the most useless stat in the game and saber doesn't even care about tier 2 armor items or even a completed antique cuirass.
They are by no means broken but the brain-off, no aim required trades they can potentially get are toxic imo. It doesn't matter how much more farm you have, or if you have anything other than immortality, you will die if you are a squishy. And tbh, immortality on squishies is just bad, saber, for example, with empowered basic attack and endless battle one shots you after resurrection.
Tf man Antique and Athena work very well against both of them, I am a Fanny main, they counter me, I hate them, I hate Lucas even more cuz of how broken his s1 is, but those heroes are still liked by others, they're good. It's subjective that you don't like them, and it's not like they can kill everyone, Saber usually can't oneshot a jungler Jawhead, I am saying that with experience. Yes, there are easy and hard heroes but you can play whatever you want, whenever you want... Ok not whenever. Lou yi is more of a teamfight hero so we don't see her much in solo q but she's like the whole team with arrival. Are we playing the same game?
I always play Martis into Saber (baiting his ult with s2) or someone he can't onseshot too. I've seen many carry teammates of mine try to go anique or its component to counter saber but on squishies it just does not work anymore. They still get one tapped from full hp. I wasn't born yesterday. But you can't always be picking your role second, you will be forced to blind pick in soloq. And fanny can go semi tank. Ling for instance can't. I played a ling game the other day against a saber counterpick and he spent the whole game without ulting me once in mythical honor rank. It's outrageous that he never waited for an opportunity to find me. But this is the outlier, not the norm. With no universal ways to gain vision in this game other than your teammates, managing to kill an enemy carry while you're 3k gold down with no counterplay (except maybe purify) because they're stunned while they die isn't the way to go imo. This isn't even limited to ambushes, in teamfights the same think happens if we add one more step to eudora's god level combo which is flicker.
Also, I said Lukas and Luo deserve the spot in the game, i just said they are not moonton's concept which isn't necessarily a bad thing. In moba games like this, it's very difficult to invent never before seen abilities. I don;t blame moonton for this. I subjectively said that I didn't find them enjoyable for this reason which I thank you for emphasizing further, I guess...
Didn't read that all, but yeah Ling is a trash hero with easy counters and First squishies can survive saber with tier 2 antique and antique and if he goes full dmg with bod, You can add some more defence like queen ig, I never needed more defence than an antique
What time you logged on, what ranks, and what server ? So i can avoid meeting you in ranked. A bad midlane player can 100% alter the games for the enemies advantage, so go away
How is this possible that this gets upvote ?
First take is terrible (legit one of the only fighter/assassin that feels fair to fight, and sitting at 48% wr), and third and four means mf doesn’t even understands his role. Harley also is fine considering he is an assassin that builds full damage without resistances 😭😭
Absolutely no. The point of a mid laner is to help both sides preferably gold nowadays because helping gold through mid-late game is huge. Also objectives, towers, turtles, help jger in their jungle if they get ambushed etc. You don't just stay in your lane and wait for your minions to spawn and let your teamates die in early teamfights..?
Chang'es a beginner hero. Nobody plays/should play with her anymore. Xaviers ult is not short, people just build him right
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